** OFFICIAL ** Denon AVR-3310CI/990 Owner's Thread - Page 12

Originally Posted by htevolution

It seems the internet radio feature works really well, but is anyone using the 3310 to access music stored on your local network?

I saw somewhere that the Twonky media server was required for this. Is that true?

Ideally, what I want to do is use my AVR to access the digital music library on my NAS (a Netgear Pro Pioneer Edition running a DLNA server). Is that possible?

I'm using a Roku Soundbridge for this now, but it would be nice to get rid of one electricity-sucking device from my rack if the 3310 has the same functionality.

Originally Posted by j.m.

Just to be clear, did you push in the small "On/Off" toggle button, which is just to the right of the bigger "On/Standby" button on the front of the 3310? The "On/Off" button cannot be controlled by the remote, so you have to turn it on by hand. The remote will toggle "On/Standby."

Originally Posted by JosephM

Hi J.M., Yes, I pushed the small On/Off toggle button. Nothing.

Originally Posted by htevolution

It seems the internet radio feature works really well, but is anyone using the 3310 to access music stored on your local network?

I saw somewhere that the Twonky media server was required for this. Is that true?

Ideally, what I want to do is use my AVR to access the digital music library on my NAS (a Netgear Pro Pioneer Edition running a DLNA server). Is that possible?

I'm using a Roku Soundbridge for this now, but it would be nice to get rid of one electricity-sucking device from my rack if the 3310 has the same functionality.

Originally Posted by TMo70

... FF, FR don't seem to work like they do if I use my PS3 as the media server. But the AVR has some nice features, like the ability to play FLAC files for example.

Originally Posted by Kali-

FF and FR doesn't work or are unavailable ?

Originally Posted by macrow1969

Since the latest firmware update (installed ~Friday 9/25/09) I am seeing the following problem.

I have both a PS3 and TiVo HD attached directly to the 3310CI via HDMI cables. The HDMI output from the 3310CI is connected to a Samsung PN58B860. Since Friday (after the firmware update [I can't find release notes on any 3310CI firmware updates and I have had at least two since I bought this receiver earlier this month.]), I am seeing the audio and video stop working (randomly after a few hours of continuous enjoyment) on both the PS3 and TiVo HD inputs and then after a few seconds after the loss in signal, the "Denon" splash screen shows up and stays there with no video or audio from the original PS3 or TiVo sources. To return to normal operation, I re-select the PS3 or TiVo Activity on my Logitech remote and everything works again. I'm 100% sure the Logitech is not changing inputs or doing random things to cause this [remote was sitting on the coffee table away from random inputs]. There seems to be something going on with the 3310CI where it just stops passing through the HDMI signals. Has anyone else seen this? Is there something to do with auto detection on the 3310CI or is there something that can be done on the PS3 or TiVo that can force this from not happening? Kind of sucks when you are playing a first person shooter and the signal goes blank...

Thank you all in advance.

Originally Posted by NathanWolf

First of all, thanks for all of the great info in this thread. I'm considering a new receiver for my home theater and distributed audio system, and so far I'm leaning towards the 3310CI.

I do have a few questions that I really hope someone can answer.

TMo70 - You mentioned an iPhone/PDA interface? Is there documentation or something about this I could look at? My plan was to use our iPhones to control zone 2 and 3 (which will be hooked up to the distributed audio in the house), but from what you are saying the native app won't work for that. I guess I could get a third-party DLNA app (looking at PlugPlayer) to control it, but it's disappointing that there is a native app that doesn't work for what I need. Is it possible we'll see an update?

More specific questions about the DLNA client functionality and/or internet radio. Can I play two different streams over DLNA to two zones? That is, could I have one playlist going to zone 2 and one to zone 3? Or is the network streaming considered a single input with only one thing playable at a time?

Same basic question applies to internet radio. Can I listen to one station in zone 2, and other in zone 3?

These questions are fairly important to me, since that is nearly the whole point of having more than 1 extra zone. I may go for the 2310 instead if not, as the network features aren't that important to me. Particularly if the main thing I'd like to use it for (controlling remotely via iPhone) doesn't actually work well.

It's also important since (from what I've read in the manual) you can't listen to HDMI inputs over zone 2 and zone 3 audio- which rules out using PS3 or Xbox 360 (or an Apple TV, or some other mini PC type of audio server solution) as the zone 2 and 3 music sources.

Any answers would be greatly appreciated, as this is obviously a huge purchase that I hope to use for years!

Which model I buy also determines how I will set up the distributed audio- my house is wired for A-Bus, but I don't have any of the hardware yet. I have a choice between a single-source system, or a more expensive system that has 4 sources (each room having a selector). The multi-source system would be more useful with the 3310, since it can have 2 zone outputs... but not that useful if those zones can't be controlled remotely, or can't play separate network audio streams.

Thanks in advance...

Originally Posted by TMo70

I have been able to control Zone 2 from my iPhone by browsing directly to the Zone2 URL as per my previous post.

Originally Posted by TMo70

AFAIK, the entire concept of zones should allow you to play any source independently in any zone. I don't know if the internet radio tuner will let you tune 2 stations simultaneously to play in different zones, my guess would be you can only tune 1 at a time, but I haven't tried it.

Originally Posted by TMo70

BTW, with PS3 3.0 software, you can now enable simultaneous audio from multiple outputs. This should let you play PS3 audio in zone 2 or 3 via the optical or analog outputs. I haven't tried this yet but I plan to.

Originally Posted by NathanWolf

That's good to know! I missed that in your original post, I guess- or maybe I missed the follow-up. I have no problem with that as a work-around, I'll just bookmark both zone URL's. So when you were talking about the special iPhone interface, it's just got an iPhone-specific page in the web UI? Sounds like a good idea. Did tech support give you some super-secret URL to get to a specific zone, or is it something obvious?

Originally Posted by morda

Can any Denon 3310 owners who also have LG BD390 Blu Ray player chime in and post their experiences? I just bought one and it does not play nice with my receive - I cannot get any sound when I set the player to bitstream TrueHD or DTS-HD MA track to my receiver. So I'm trying to narrow down if it 's player or receiver's fault.

Originally Posted by batpig

hi morda -- there have been similar issues in other '10 model Denon owners threads with certain BDP's (mostly samsung X600 units however). There seems to be some weird handshake thing where it defaults to some insane amount of compression on bitstreamed soundtracks, but sounds totally normal with PCM.

If you are having this issue you are actually getting audio, but it's just VERY soft. Try sending a bitstream track and turn the volume WAYY up and see if you can faintly hear audio.

Originally Posted by batpig

3310/990 is basically an updated version of your 988 and will be very similar, with the addition of Audyssey Dynamic Volume and Dynamic EQ, and of course 5 HDMI inputs (instead of 2). Some other new features include networking (basically the same as on the 3808) and a much better video processor (with color GUI on-screen overlay). Note however that Denon has removed MultEQ XT (only regular MultEQ) from this model.

the 3808 is a higher-end model, it is bigger, heavier, beefier amps, and will have MultEQ XT. You will need to spend $100 though for the "feature pack" upgrade to add Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume. The 3808 also has on-screen GUI but it is a slightly older and clunkier interface than the newer GUI from what I can tell. The 3808 would be more of the "audiophile" choice with MultEQ XT, slightly better DAC's, and also the ability to do DSD over HDMI for SACD's (not sure if your player can deliver the DSD over HDMI though).

It's basically a question of would you rather have the beef in the amps, and slightly better audiophile "chops", but stick to the same "generation" as your 988.... or have a 2-yr newer model that is basically the same as your 988 but with some new flashy features. Both models have the "basics" in terms of audio decoding, networking, pre-outs, plenty of inputs, GUI, etc. I don't think video processing for DVD's is a concern for you as you assumedly use your XA2 for SD DVD scaling.

Originally Posted by batpig

here's the comparo from Denon's site:
http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDeta...mageField.y=21

I think you should take your time and list out the features each has and see what's important to you. There may be minor things -- e.g. the fancier touch-screen remote on the 3808CI (the 3310/990 gets the evil two-sided flip door) but if you have a Harmony it's a non issue. Do you use SACD over HDMI? The 3310/990 can't decoded DSD. Also note the 990 is only 2-zone (3310 and 3808 are 3-zone). Little things like that.

Originally Posted by NathanWolf

TMo70 - or anyone else with a multi-zone setup

I just realized I don't need someone with 3 zones to answer my question, two will do just fine.

Can you listen to one Internet Radio station in the main zone, and a different station in the second zone?

Can you listen to one song via DLNA in zone one, and a different song/playlist in zone two?

If someone could try this out and let me know one way or the other, I would hugely appreciate it.

I suppose my guess is that it cannot be done, but if it can I will probably be sold on the 3310.