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post #1141 of 1159
6/3/13 at 12:26am
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Well Im not going to send it to cowboys for repairs. So im deciding what to get next any ideas??

For a man of your wealth and taste there can be only one. The Fully balanced Krell Evo 707. cool.gif
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post #1142 of 1159
6/3/13 at 12:26am
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Sorry to hear that ! as I know all to well how it feels to have to change out a piece of critical gear, and if repairs aren't an option, its an Marantz 8801 beyond a shadow of a doubt, I as well have no plans for 11.2 and think it really loves movies and it has only increased my love for music and movies by enhancing them beyond my expectations! It at least deserves an audition wink.gif

I might actually go down that road now. Im annoyed this has happened to my AVP, I had a feelin when I took mine for upgrades the technicias looked like cowboys. mad.gif
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post #1143 of 1159
6/3/13 at 12:32am
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For a man of your wealth and taste there can be only one. The Fully balanced Krell Evo 707. cool.gif

Nah, wont be spending that much money on Pre amps again. Problem is when the fault is intermittent no one would be able to find it. This is the second time this has happened within a week.
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post #1144 of 1159
6/3/13 at 3:50am
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I'm going to give it one more go. I did a nother factory reset and if it does again well then its time for me to move it on.
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post #1145 of 1159
6/3/13 at 4:38am
Two things Frank. I also had a CC issue. I think you may remember it. It was the tweeter and I was able to get it fixed. Plus, I am having intermittent preamp issues as well with my 80.2 so I will have to send it out for repairs as soon as I can. The three year warranty is almost up but I am still under the line. I am just not looking forward to dis-connecting everything. I hope it all gets sorted out for you.
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post #1146 of 1159
6/3/13 at 4:43am
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Hi Mike my centre speaker is fine its definitley the pre amp. I dont know why it but I guess the upgrade isnt as succeful for some as it is for others. If it definitley needs repair I will buy another pre amp, fix the AVP and sell it cheap. Ive dealt with getting things repaired and always come across other problems. Its definitley intermittient and I know that the Technicians (cowboys) will never find the problem and give it back to me saying its repaired.
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post #1147 of 1159
6/3/13 at 5:23am
Well, at least you have it nailed down to what the issue is. I have problems where it was really hard to nail down the issue. Hopefully they can figure out my issue and fix it for real. I think it's a video board issue. It's a real pain in the butt though for me to take it out of my system so I am not looking forward to that.
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post #1148 of 1159
6/3/13 at 6:14am
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Well, at least you have it nailed down to what the issue is. I have problems where it was really hard to nail down the issue. Hopefully they can figure out my issue and fix it for real. I think it's a video board issue. It's a real pain in the butt though for me to take it out of my system so I am not looking forward to that.

Still its a pain on the behind with these pre amps especially with intermittent faults.

I just looked at my audyssey unless I need updating I just realised that the Marantz 8801 has not got the capability for audyssey pro.
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post #1149 of 1159
6/3/13 at 6:43am
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Still its a pain on the behind with these pre amps especially with intermittent faults.

I just looked at my audyssey unless I need updating I just realised that the Marantz 8801 has not got the capability for audyssey pro.
This is from there website for the U.S Version of the AV8801
"Auto Calibration by MIC Audyssey MultEQXT32 (upgradeable to Pro by Installer)". Isn't that what you mean?
It also has some new Audyssey stuff just for the sub(s)
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post #1150 of 1159
6/3/13 at 6:45am
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Originally Posted by MIkeDuke View Post

This is from there website for the U.S Version of the AV8801
"Auto Calibration by MIC Audyssey MultEQXT32 (upgradeable to Pro by Installer)". Isn't that what you mean?
It also has some new Audyssey stuff just for the sub(s)

Thanks for that Mike but I wonder why its not on my list when choosing pre amps??
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post #1151 of 1159
6/3/13 at 8:19am
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I might actually go down that road now. Im annoyed this has happened to my AVP, I had a feelin when I took mine for upgrades the technicias looked like cowboys. mad.gif

I know the feeling bro...I had issues with my Integra 80.2 way back in 2011, until I found out through extensive troubleshooting that my issue (severely distorted left-surround channel) was being caused by, of all things, a dimmer-capable lamp being plugged into the same circuit. The weirdest things can happen with electronics sometimes. It wasn't logical at first, but about seven or eight rounds of *plugged in-plugged out* lamp tests, that was indeed the issue.

Sorry about the cowboy repair-technicians man.
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post #1152 of 1159
6/3/13 at 9:34am
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Ive finished calibrating and yep it did it again. Were talking the centre speaker 10db lower than the rest in volume. In audyssey levels it should match the same but when emitting test tones its definitely 10db less.

Here is what I did to eliminate the power amp and centre speaker:
1. I assigned the Fl channel to centre channel and the centre channel to FL channel. When the FL test tone came on the centre speaker shined beautifully. (centre speaker works as well as the power amp Centre) when it was Centre to emit test tone the FL was very low( remember the Fl is now playing the role as the speaker). After I changed back to normal settings
2. I changed xlr cables still the same
3. I changed to rca cables still the same
4. I know went to the back of the unit unplugged the FL XLR and plugged in the Centre channel of the power amp and and I Plugged the Centre XLR to FL Channel of the Power AMP. Same thing happened as in no 1. I reverted the XLR back to the usual positions.

I then turned the power off again and guess what it worked. Problem its an intermittent fault and its going to kill me. I even bought my wife to hear the difference so she does not think Im trying to score a new pre amp. Im very happy with the pre amp AQ but this upgrade has basically messed it up.

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post #1153 of 1159
6/3/13 at 9:42am
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I know the feeling bro...I had issues with my Integra 80.2 way back in 2011, until I found out through extensive troubleshooting that my issue (severely distorted left-surround channel) was being caused by, of all things, a dimmer-capable lamp being plugged into the same circuit. The weirdest things can happen with electronics sometimes. It wasn't logical at first, but about seven or eight rounds of *plugged in-plugged out* lamp tests, that was indeed the issue.

Sorry about the cowboy repair-technicians man.

I read this post Matt I have my AVP plugged into the Furman Power Regulator which the Furman is plugged into its own 32A line. After reading your post I quickly turned of the furman (and everything else ) and plugged the AVP in to 10A input of the Furman. Originally it was plugged into linear audio section of the furman but I can't see that to be the problem. I think mine has a bug in it.

Dont be sorry about the cowboys thats the problem I send mine off know they would not find the problem. So what to do? Do I buy a new pre amp and which one ( and Im not going to spend big $$ on a pre amp)

Im tossing up between Wabos favourite an Integra or the Marantz. Mine is mainly for Home theatre purpose so I have no care for 2 channel. Actually i might keep my Denon for 2 channel.
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post #1154 of 1159
6/3/13 at 12:11pm
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I read this post Matt I have my AVP plugged into the Furman Power Regulator which the Furman is plugged into its own 32A line. After reading your post I quickly turned of the furman (and everything else ) and plugged the AVP in to 10A input of the Furman. Originally it was plugged into linear audio section of the furman but I can't see that to be the problem. I think mine has a bug in it.

Dont be sorry about the cowboys thats the problem I send mine off know they would not find the problem. So what to do? Do I buy a new pre amp and which one ( and Im not going to spend big $$ on a pre amp)

Im tossing up between Wabos favourite an Integra or the Marantz. Mine is mainly for Home theatre purpose so I have no care for 2 channel. Actually i might keep my Denon for 2 channel.

The real-world prices for the Integra and Marantz are actually very similar, so it all comes down to features and performance. I can say my Integra 80.3 was much easier to use than my MArantz 8801. I can't speak to sound quality comparisons (due to owning each processor with totally different speakers) but I'm willing to bet they sound the same for HT. Does that monster Denon have HT bypass?
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post #1155 of 1159
6/3/13 at 1:51pm
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Im tossing up between Wabos favourite an Integra or the Marantz. Mine is mainly for Home theatre purpose so I have no care for 2 channel. Actually i might keep my Denon for 2 channel.

Lol. Well played.tongue.gif
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post #1156 of 1159
6/3/13 at 4:54pm
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

The real-world prices for the Integra and Marantz are actually very similar, so it all comes down to features and performance. I can say my Integra 80.3 was much easier to use than my MArantz 8801. I can't speak to sound quality comparisons (due to owning each processor with totally different speakers) but I'm willing to bet they sound the same for HT. Does that monster Denon have HT bypass?

According to Kal of Stereophile, there are "subtle" differences (my description not his).

My guess is, that to get far beyond "subtle" you would be way north of $10,000 (maybe the Mac 151 with room perfect or the $40,000 ADA piece or the $20,000 AP20i or the Trinnov piece.)

I would like to hear the Mac 151!
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post #1157 of 1159
6/3/13 at 6:27pm
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According to Kal of Stereophile, there are "subtle" differences (my description not his).

OTOH, I liked it enough to buy it.

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post #1158 of 1159
6/4/13 at 10:41am
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OTOH, I liked it enough to buy it.

Which one did you buy the MARANTZ?
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post #1159 of 1159
6/4/13 at 11:47am
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Which one did you buy the MARANTZ?

Yup! wink.gif
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