The Official Pioneer 9G North American KRP-500M / KRP-600M Owner's Discussion Pt. II - Page 12

By the way, I love those invisible cables.

It was suggested there might be another reason.

Thanks for that, but the answer is even worse. It implies that they could have supported it but didn't.
I agree that you probably won't find content like that, but some devices may limit their output to 1080p60 (for some reason) even for film-sourced media. In that case, it would be useful for the display to handle it correctly.

- LoopinFool

Are you making fun of my wall mount or the cord to the electric insert in my fireplace?

Thanks, D-Nice explained it as well on the 9G settings thread, and also why that is (there is no 1080/60p telecined distributed content), but it would have been nice when you're upscaling with, say a PS3 or a PC, as they don't do IVTC (the PC may or may not depending on graphics drivers).

It could be both reasons, they just didn't feel they needed hardware/software support for 1080/60p IVTC because of the reason D-Nice stated.

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[quote=massiveheadache;16848573]I just received my 600 earlier this week and my Peerless mount arrived yesterday. Attached are comparison picture of the 600 to the 5080 (which will be moved to the bedroom). I don't even have to reprogram my remote since my other components have not changed and I used the same inputs as before. For those interested, i had a Peerless 660 mount for the 5080 and a Peerless 670 for the 600. I highly recommend both of these mounts for easy solutions that mount the panels very close to the wall. The 600 is only a total of 4.25" out! I turned the set on briefly and everything seems to be in working order. I plan to do the D-Nice break-in for 150 hours using the Evangelo DVD. After that I plan on playing on using some tried and true settings and potentially getting the patch at some point in the future. Here are a couple quick pics from my cell phone camera.

Thanks again to bodosom and dssturbo1 for helping me make the right choices.

hey your welcome. congrats on the new 600M. glad it got there safe and it looks great on the wall.

Uh-oh. What's this about? The following is a quote from Forum member 'J0HNNY H0PK1NS' who posted it on the ControlCal Calibration Forum:

Oh, man. Someone please tell me that it doesn't sound like what I think it sounds like...

Because to me it sounds like if I have my 500M calibrated by an ISF-certified professional -- who would install the patch that gives me the ISF modes (Day, Night) -- the simple act of unplugging the plasma from the wall outlet would completely wipe out the ISF modes from the display, along with the calibration the professional put into it??

Someone please tell me I'm misinterpreting the above quote.

Agreed. What about Blu-rays of TV shows? Are they shot shot in 1080p/60? It is shame that the TV does not handle this but it is tough to notice, but now that I know about it..... damn it!

Since I don't use HDMI-2 I decided to split the output from my AVR to get RGBvid. I'm using the MonoPrice 5312 4x2 but you can get a 1x2. I briefly entertained the idea of splitting the output from my ATV and BD-83 but that breaks audio during the HDMI handshake. The 5312 is overkill for this task but I habitually shop at MonoPrice.

You are misinterpreting the above quote.

Thank you.

No.

So for video games that are rendered in 1080/60, is it suggested to have the Kuro in OFF or STANDARD mode for pure cinema?

It doesnt really matter as games are not film based.

It's deja vu all over again.

I dont know if you realized but with the most recent patch for the ps3 (or maybe the next one) they have enabled the optical audio out even if you have a hdmi cable plugged in. You could run hdmi straight to the kuro and a optical audio to the avr. That still does not help with the projector screen but I thought I would let you know as it will provide you with another option.

Finally got around to setting up my 500M!!
I've spent almost 2 months trying to get this baby into my arms.

Short version of the story: I had been in contact with Roman O about ordering a 500M, but he was running into some trouble trying to snag some. I didn't mind waiting because I had run to the problem of having nothing to hang the monitor on. I ordered a TV stand w/ attached mounting bracket with the understanding (according to the sales rep) that it would fit the 500M, of course it does not. So, being SOL due to bad customer service, I ordered a bracket adapter with the same understanding (sales rep). Of course, it DOES NOT FIT! So I get my power drill and start drilling 4 new holes in the original steel bracket. However, halfway through I realized that steel drill bits won't do a damn thing on steel. So, off to Home Depot for a cobalt/titanium drill bit, it worked. So, I now had the brackets attached to the monitor, but no one home (neighbors, girlfriend, coworker) for another 3 days to help lift and mount it. Then, today the girlfriend arrives and the 500M is NOW in its final position for my enjoyment!


I am currently running the break-in DVD and had a couple of questions:
1. I read a post a while back that there was a black screen fade in/out between color shifts. Is that true? I don't seem to have that going on. Just quick jumps from one shade to another.
2. Are there (a lot) more white/grey screens compared to the color screens. There seems to be around 90 chapters, with the 1st couple being slightly different shades of light grey, and the same for the last couple of chapters.
3. How many chapters should there be?

Or, I guess the better question would be: What rotation of color shades should I be seeing and for how long? I'm planning on following D-Nice's settings to a 'T', so I hope I'm not screwing things up.

Thank you very much for your input, and it feels great to be a Pioneer owner!

I have a stupid question:

I have just learned that cycling a resolution more than eight times deafaults the picture adjustements settings(thanks turbe).

Is the ISF-mode the solution to this?

Have anyone explored the Integrator Mode? What does it do?

TV shows that are shot at 24p don't need to be encoded at 60i/p on bluray, so they are in 24p. In this case you can just apply Advance mode and your Kuro will detect 24 Hz input and refresh always at 72 Hz.

It's really no big deal. I was asking because I upscale to 1080/60p with my HTPC, and I did with the PS3, but for the PS3, you can just tell it not to scale, if you're running it at 1080p. It's not a very common scenario anyway, I was just testing.

Hi all,

I've successfully broken in my 500m and am on the verge of mounting it on the wall. Quick question - are there any hard and fast rules as to the "ideal" height for mounting these (it's my first wall-mounted set). In other words, if your primary seating position is x feet from the wall, the set should be centered at y feet ? I'm sure it's really just personal preference, but I'm curious at to people's feedback. Thanks in advance.

I have always thought that you want the middle of the screen at eye level.

Yes or the 1/3 line (from the top) at your normal eye-line. This does mean that elevated panels should be watched from recumbent position. The motivation behind this is not preventing a stiff neck but minimizing blinking.

My 600M is wall mounted at ~42" to the bottom edge of the display. It's higher than average but it's perfect for me.

Yep, the ISFccc Memories are set and locked

That is how my 500m is set up. Of course when I recline fully in m theater seats, I wish I had a 500m on the ceiling!

Does this mean a 360 connected via hdmi won't output 1080p/60?

I don't see how you can come to that conclusion from my post you quoted, I don't even mention (or have) a 360.

Thanks for all the feedback on the mounting. I'm going to try center it at eye level and see how it goes.