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post #3481 of 6727
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Originally Posted by zoro View Post

just got mail from pioneer, 10% off of 6020 and possibly 600M

Saw your post and checked online. The KRP-TS01 stand I JUST purchased on Friday for $--- was reduced to HALF price. I called Pioneer and they refunded me the difference which saved me two hundred! What a great company!!! And thank you for the heads up!
post #3482 of 6727
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Originally Posted by So MD TopGun View Post

Are the screen on the 600m replaceable-?- My granddaughter just cracked mine-- can it be done in house --still has good picture




OMG!

Djoel
post #3483 of 6727
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Originally Posted by zoro View Post

just got mail from pioneer, 10% off of 6020 and possibly 600M

I got the email as well but did not see 600m as part of that deal. I'm looking to get a 600m but if I can't find any I would be willing to get a 6020.
post #3484 of 6727
If you add the 6020 to your cart, on the next page, it gave me the option to add the 600M for $3000! So I would add the 6020 your cart, then add the 600M, then remove the 6020.
post #3485 of 6727
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Originally Posted by So MD TopGun View Post

Are the screen on the 600m replaceable-?- My granddaughter just cracked mine-- can it be done in house --still has good picture

Veyr sorry to hear that. If the screen really is cracked, I remember reading that it is cheaper to replace the TV at today's prices on Kuros.

How did it happen? Flying Wii Remote?
post #3486 of 6727
you must have heard---she is just 3 yrs old -off the hand into the screen- only 1 day old
post #3487 of 6727
does your credit card or extended warranty cover accidential damages?
post #3488 of 6727
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Originally Posted by So MD TopGun View Post

you must have heard---she is just 3 yrs old -off the hand into the screen- only 1 day old

Sounds dangerous! Perhaps it was already cracked?

DJoel
post #3489 of 6727
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Originally Posted by Marty1781 View Post

If you add the 6020 to your cart, on the next page, it gave me the option to add the 600M for $3000! So I would add the 6020 your cart, then add the 600M, then remove the 6020.

Is this a direct purchase from pioneer? Is shipping included?
post #3490 of 6727
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Originally Posted by So MD TopGun View Post

you must have heard---she is just 3 yrs old -off the hand into the screen- only 1 day old

No, I hadn't heard, but I read about several occurances where a Wii Remote had escaped a player's hand and hit the TV. Nintendo has since provided a rubber sleeve for the remote, in addition to the existing wrist strap, to help prevent possible damage.
post #3491 of 6727
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Originally Posted by Jonesy11 View Post

Is this a direct purchase from pioneer? Is shipping included?

It is a direct purchase from Pioneer ($3000). Looks like Pioneer will charge tax but you get free standard shipping ("white glove" shipping is also an option for an extra $250).
post #3492 of 6727
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Originally Posted by Marty1781 View Post

It is a direct purchase from Pioneer ($3000). Looks like Pioneer will charge tax but you get free standard shipping ("white glove" shipping is also an option for an extra $250).

Out of curiosity I tried this using the email link. Didn't work for me. Lucky you.
post #3493 of 6727
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Originally Posted by hhaller View Post

Out of curiosity I tried this using the email link. Didn't work for me. Lucky you.

I actually already have the 600M but try this. Click on the 10% off 6020 link in thee Pioneer email and it should take you to the 6020 page on Pioneer's site. Click the "buy now" link on that page. Once it gets added to your cart, you should see the option to add the 600M under "related products". Tried this yesterday and again about 10 minutes ago and it was working fine.

Edit: Just tried this right now and it didn't list the 600M as an option to add to the cart anymore. Previously, I was only able to add the 600M to my cart if I added the 6020 first. I couldn't find an option to add the 600M on its own from anywhere in Pioneer's online store. Now it looks like even that option is gone (at least for now). If someone really wants this deal though, I would suggest calling Pioneer and hopefully they can sell it to you over the phone.

Edit 2: Still can't get it to work by adding the 6020 to the cart but if I add the BDP-320 to the cart first using the "20% off Pioneer BR disc players" link in the Pioneer email, then the option to add the 600M to your cart appears. So just try the different discount links in the Pioneer email, add the product to your cart, then hopefully you will see the option to also add the 600M. If it doens't work for you, try adding a differrent product to your cart first.
post #3494 of 6727
ok just wanted to verify before starting my journey into the break in files...are most of them whiteish/greyish and then it cycles thru other colors on occasion. Just wanted to make sure I got the file burned correctly before starting the process. It takes about 43 or so minutes and then resets. I stretched the budget for the 500m based on all the great info and endorsements I got on here and don't want to mess up right out of the gate.
post #3495 of 6727
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Originally Posted by Marty1781 View Post

Edit 2: Still can't get it to work by adding the 6020 to the cart but if I add the BDP-320 to the cart first using the "20% off Pioneer BR disc players" link in the Pioneer email, then the option to add the 600M to your cart appears. So just try the different discount links in the Pioneer email, add the product to your cart, then hopefully you will see the option to also add the 600M. If it doens't work for you, try adding a differrent product to your cart first.

Thanks. This method worked for me. But it looks like the 10% only works for the 6020. I tried inputting my code and it did not accept it for the 600m.
post #3496 of 6727
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Originally Posted by Dwellon View Post

Thanks. This method worked for me. But it looks like the 10% only works for the 6020. I tried inputting my code and it did not accept it for the 600m.

Correct, the code is unfortunately only good for headphones, bluray players, dvd players, and the 6020. Still, for those who want to buy the 600M directly from the source for a fair price, that seems like the way to do it.
post #3497 of 6727
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Originally Posted by stradovinski View Post

ok just wanted to verify before starting my journey into the break in files...are most of them whiteish/greyish and then it cycles thru other colors on occasion. Just wanted to make sure I got the file burned correctly before starting the process. It takes about 43 or so minutes and then resets. I stretched the budget for the 500m based on all the great info and endorsements I got on here and don't want to mess up right out of the gate.



That would be correct Sir..With the occasional red, blue, and green.


Djoel
post #3498 of 6727
Does anyone have any ideas as to where to buy wall mount KRP-WM02 for 500M?I am in LA.Thanks...
post #3499 of 6727
I am in the process of deciding on an AV Receiver to complement my Pioneer 600M. Are the 600M's upscaling/de-interlacing capabilities generally viewed as excellent or just OK? I am considering the Denon 2310 and the Onkyo 807. From what I can discern, the Denon has excellent video processing capabilities, while the Onkyo's capabilities are not quite as good. By the same token, the Onkyo has benefits that the Denon does not.

I've heard some people say that an AV receiver's video processing capability is all a marketing ploy, since most TVs will provide excellent upscaling/upconversion on their own. Is there any truth to this? Do any of you have a Denon and 600M combination. If so, do you use the receiver for upscaling, or do you pass the content through to the 600M and allow the TV to upscale?
post #3500 of 6727
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Originally Posted by Vetch View Post

If so, do you use the receiver for upscaling, or do you pass the content through to the 600M and allow the TV to upscale?

I use my AVR to scale/deinterlace non-DVD content. I use my BD player to scale/deinterlace DVDs.

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Originally Posted by the KRP FAQ View Post

Q. Should I adjust my DVD player to send 1080p to my KRP, use my audio-video receiver (AVR) or just send SD material directly to the KRP?
a. If you have a Blu-ray player the Spears & Munsil HD Benchmark disc can help you determine which component should be used to rescale/deinterlace your source material. Otherwise you may be able to find a copy of the discontinued HQV Benchmark on DVD.
post #3501 of 6727
I'm definitely finally buying my KRP-500M on Black Friday after realizing that 3D TV isn't worth waiting for, especially when the ninth generation Pioneer plasmas still can't be touched. I haven't heard of this being a problem during my months of following this TV, but does the KRP-500M have a problem with the black level worsening as the TV's panel is faded away by sunlight and surrounding light?

Many people have been complaining about this problem with recent Panasonic plasmas so I was just wondering if there was anything I should do to preserve the KRP-500M's incredible black levels (aside from a break-in, which I will do)? I did notice that the PRO-111FD that my local BestBuy that's facing bright light has much greyer blacks than the any of the Pioneer plasmas in 6th Ave, which are all stunningly black, that are still in a fairly bright room.
post #3502 of 6727
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Originally Posted by Vetch View Post

I am in the process of deciding on an AV Receiver to complement my Pioneer 600M. Are the 600M's upscaling/de-interlacing capabilities generally viewed as excellent or just OK?

I believe that the 600M uses the same video processing circuitry as the 141D.

This is what the technical reviewer for Ultimate AV Mag had to say about the 141D's performance.

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The Pioneer's upconversion of standard-definition 480i sources to the panel's native 1080p resolution was average at best. It locked on to 3:2 pulldown (film-sourced material) on two of my three tests for this capability, but it consistently broke lock on the most challenging test. It showed visible artifacts on 2:2 (video-sourced material) tests and had severe jaggies on a mixed video-over-film scroll. While I saw occasional artifacts on some real-world 480i sources, they were frequent only when clearly present in the source itself. (The History International SD channel, a personal favorite, is particularly prone to jaggies on fast panson this and other sets.)

The set's high-definition processing (1080i to 1080p) was better. It continued to have problems with 2:2 pulldown and scrolling text on my standard tests, but I didn't see any distracting artifacts on a wide range of cable 1080i HD programming, both video- and film-based.
post #3503 of 6727
Thanks Tim and Bodosum,

I had already read the FAQ section and I do plan to buy the Spears and Munsil disk. But since I haven't purchased a receiver yet, it would help right now. But based on you comments, it sounds like purcahsing a receiver with really good video processing capabilities would/could be beneficial.

Thanks again guysand have a great Thanksgiving!
post #3504 of 6727
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Originally Posted by Vetch View Post

Thanks Tim and Bodosum,

I had already read the FAQ section and I do plan to buy the Spears and Munsil disk. But since I haven't purchased a receiver yet, it would help right now. But based on you comments, it sounds like purcahsing a receiver with really good video processing capabilities would/could be beneficial.

Thanks again guysand have a great Thanksgiving!

Not sure if this will apply in your situation but have you thought of a receiver that just does passthru via hdmi instead of any processing.

"While the SR8002 transcodes all legacy analog video inputs to 480p or 480i via HDMI, it doesn’t upconvert them in the process, as is the case with so many of today’s AVRs. Incoming 1080i signals via component may also be transcoded to 1080i via HDMI."
post #3505 of 6727
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Originally Posted by Vetch View Post

I've heard some people say that an AV receiver's video processing capability is all a marketing ploy, since most TVs will provide excellent upscaling/upconversion on their own. Is there any truth to this?

No. "High-end" VPs like the IDT/SO Realta or the ABT 2010 are better than most televisions.

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Originally Posted by Vetch View Post

But based on you comments, it sounds like purcahsing a receiver with really good video processing capabilities would/could be beneficial.

That's often true and particularly if you watch a lot of DVD sourced material and you don't have a high-end scaler in your player.

The point of my original comment was that you have to assess the capabilities of each component and decide which makes you happiest and that can only be done in your home with your specific set of components and sources. As noted in Tim's comments although the KRP VP has problems with certain de-interlacing you may never notice. To give you an example:
My AVR has a Reon VP which I use to scale my DVR (my DVR has native/bypass/unscaled output) but my BD player has an excellent ABT VP (like the Denon) so I use it to scale DVDs.
post #3506 of 6727
Just called Value Electronics and they are out of the 600M. Does anyone know where I can purchase one, I'm in Connecticut. Elite Home? Does anyone have their website or contact info?
post #3507 of 6727
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Originally Posted by mrotino View Post

Just called Value Electronics and they are out of the 600M. Does anyone know where I can purchase one, I'm in Connecticut. Elite Home? Does anyone have their website or contact info?

Just send him a PM. His user name is elite-home.
post #3508 of 6727
The Pioneer online store is selling them direct at a great price. Just add a bluray player to your cart and the KRP-600m will come up as an additional purchase choice. It does not come up on its own when searching.
post #3509 of 6727
Just bought the KRP-600 from Pioneer. Thanks everyone for the hint about adding 6020 TV and blueray to shopping cart, the KRP-600 then showed up as an option.

Now, where do I buy KRP-TS01 stand? Please help.
post #3510 of 6727
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Originally Posted by p6889k View Post

Now, where do I buy KRP-TS01 stand? Please help.

They're still on sale at Pioneer. You have to select the TS01 for the 141 not the TS01 for the 600. Pioneer's web store is a bit daft.
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