The Official Pioneer 9G North American KRP-500M / KRP-600M Owner's Discussion Pt. II - Page 122

Originally Posted by Quidav

I like to know where i can get the "Patcher package" to add the ISFccc back into my krp-500m.

Originally Posted by the KRP FAQ

Q. What is ISFccc?
a. ... The ISFccc modes in all Kuro displays are configured using ControlCAL. There is a KRP specific tool.

Originally Posted by whityfrd

friendly, but still a salesman at the core. and ill put it this way. my experience was the dark side of the moon compared to yours.

Originally Posted by p59teitel

After having gone through all three stages of Kuro development, here is my Hierarchy of Pioneer M-Class Monitor Picture Quality:

Good: 150-hour break-in, then D-Nice Pure Mode Settings.

Better: 150-hour break-in, then ControlCal Patch with ISFccc Modes, then...umm...some guy's settings from another forum.

Best: 150 hour break-in, then ControlCal Patch with ISFccc Modes, then D-Nice calibration of ISFccc Day, Night Auto and Pure Modes.

Originally Posted by Jidonsu

May I ask how you contacted D-Nice? I'm having trouble contacting him so far.

Originally Posted by Jidonsu

May I ask how you contacted D-Nice? I'm having trouble contacting him so far.

Originally Posted by p59teitel

After having gone through all three stages of Kuro development, here is my Hierarchy of Pioneer M-Class Monitor Picture Quality:

Good: 150-hour break-in, then D-Nice Pure Mode Settings.

Better: 150-hour break-in, then ControlCal Patch with ISFccc Modes, then...umm...some guy's settings from another forum.

Best: 150 hour break-in, then ControlCal Patch with ISFccc Modes, then D-Nice calibration of ISFccc Day, Night Auto and Pure Modes.

Originally Posted by boisy

Folks, I have been reading thread after thread about the benefits of proper calibration; given that my KRP-600M will be in today, I'm obviously thinking ahead about that pristine picture quality that I would get by going this extra mile.

From what I've read, there are professional calibrators that go on "tours" and this sounds like the cream of the crop. On the other end there are calibration tools like the Spyder 3 and even plain old calibration DVDs that can give you some help in getting the best picture from your set.

I'm thinking about doing my own calibration, and it has less to do with the cost of a professional calibration than it does with the following:

1. I live in Southwest Louisiana (Cajun Country) and all of these tours seem to bypass me Every page I went to mentioned states around me (Texas, Mississippi, etc) but not Louisiana in general or my area in particular. Furthermore, these tours apparently happen once in a while so the timing would have to be pretty good.

2. I have multiple plasmas in my home (two Pannys and the KRP-600M coming in today) and I could gain extra value by having the calibration tools handy for those TVs as well.

Look, I'm not trying to bypass a professional calibrator just to be cheap: I believe I have some valid points. I am certainly willing to take the time and learn how to do a decent calibration only for my own benefit. Can someone recommend a good set of calibration tools that would yield good results with a little investment on my part learning how to use them?

Originally Posted by yellowbalt

Hi sorry for being not resourceful, is this the place where you can find d-nice pure mode setting after the break-in?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1053444

All I can see is sports-mode. Thanks in advance

Originally Posted by KingLeerUK

But the manual specifically states that the panel phosphours are more prone to burn-in/image retention "early in the panel life" and recommends against extended periods of watching content with black bars. However, it does not specifically define how long an "extended period" is. This line is shortly followed by disclaimers that burn-in is NOT covered by the warranty.

Extended Period: 30 minutes? 2 hours? 1 day?

Originally Posted by DJF(NJ)

... Blacks looked gray, so I turned the brightness and contrast settings down quite a bit. I paid for my panel to be run with the 150hours break-in and Evangelo disc and was assured it was done. I wonder if yours and my experiences are related to a break-in issue?

Originally Posted by yellowbalt

Hi sorry for being not resourceful, is this the place where you can find d-nice pure mode setting after the break-in?

Originally Posted by bodosom

...
Q. Are there posted settings for Pure or ISFccc?
a. D-Nice post panel aging (break-in) 500M Pure settings are here. There are no AVS D-Nice reference ISFccc numbers for the 500M/600M but he has posted his 500M ISFccc settings here.
...

Originally Posted by Jidonsu

May I ask how you contacted D-Nice? I'm having trouble contacting him so far.

Originally Posted by htwaits

I've PMed D_Nice about a calibration for my nephew during his tour to the San Francisco Bay area in January, but so far no answer. The person that posted about the tour may have been mistaken.

If you're PMing him about a calibration, make that very clear right up front. He probably gets more PM traffic than any of us would want to read.

Originally Posted by boisy

Folks, I have been reading thread after thread about the benefits of proper calibration; given that my KRP-600M will be in today, I'm obviously thinking ahead about that pristine picture quality that I would get by going this extra mile.

From what I've read, there are professional calibrators that go on "tours" and this sounds like the cream of the crop. On the other end there are calibration tools like the Spyder 3 and even plain old calibration DVDs that can give you some help in getting the best picture from your set.

I'm thinking about doing my own calibration, and it has less to do with the cost of a professional calibration than it does with the following:

1. I live in Southwest Louisiana (Cajun Country) and all of these tours seem to bypass me Every page I went to mentioned states around me (Texas, Mississippi, etc) but not Louisiana in general or my area in particular. Furthermore, these tours apparently happen once in a while so the timing would have to be pretty good.

2. I have multiple plasmas in my home (two Pannys and the KRP-600M coming in today) and I could gain extra value by having the calibration tools handy for those TVs as well.

Look, I'm not trying to bypass a professional calibrator just to be cheap: I believe I have some valid points. I am certainly willing to take the time and learn how to do a decent calibration only for my own benefit. Can someone recommend a good set of calibration tools that would yield good results with a little investment on my part learning how to use them?

"Bien merci encore" for the helpful replies.

Originally Posted by boisy

Folks, I have been reading thread after thread about the benefits of proper calibration; given that my KRP-600M will be in today, I'm obviously thinking ahead about that pristine picture quality that I would get by going this extra mile.

...

I'm thinking about doing my own calibration
...
Can someone recommend a good set of calibration tools that would yield good results with a little investment on my part learning how to use them?

Originally Posted by bodosom

On the other hand if you relax the "proper calibration" constraint you can get an inexpensive meter supported by Color HCFR and adjust contrast and check gamma.

You might think $200 is a bit much just to adjust the white level.

Originally Posted by JonW747

On the other hand, there are plenty of calibration discs that will lead you through the process of setting brightness, contrast, and tint, and for a small investment in time the AVSHD disc can be used to handle those tasks for free

Originally Posted by bodosom

No. Have you read the FAQ?

Originally Posted by DJF(NJ)

Are you answering for him?

Originally Posted by D-Nice

When did you attempt to contact me? My PM box is atrocious right now. Please email me at audiovideofidelity@gmail.com

Originally Posted by bodosom

Only in the sense that there are no "issues" that can derive from the D-Nice panel aging process. If a panel is borked that's that, otherwise something is misconfigured and the first place you look is colorspace.

Originally Posted by boisy

..Can someone recommend a good set of calibration tools that would yield good results with a little investment on my part learning how to use them?

Originally Posted by exbagboy

Anyone know where I can get a good deal on KRP-500m?
I live in colorado and I can't find any dealers around here!
Thanks!

Originally Posted by bodosom

If you really mean a proper Kuro calibration then I'd suggest you stop thinking about doing it yourself. The Panasonics are probably (you didn't mention what models) simple enough that you could find the best preset mode.

A minimally acceptable toolkit would probably be about $600 and require much more than a "a little investment on my part learning how to use them".

On the other hand if you relax the "proper calibration" constraint you can get an inexpensive meter supported by Color HCFR and adjust contrast and check gamma.

You might think $200 is a bit much just to adjust the white level.

Originally Posted by boisy

I did some looking around and found someone within a 30 mile area that does ISF calibrations. Spoke to the guy on the phone and he quoted me a price that sounded reasonable ($350) However, he's not familiar with the KRP-600M. I don't know if that is a red flag or not.