The Official Pioneer 9G North American KRP-500M / KRP-600M Owner's Discussion Pt. II - Page 204

Originally Posted by tony9

No prob with the 320, nor did Doug indicate anything was amiss with the BD signal. I sent Doug a mail notice to review my entire posting here, to clarify anything I may of written. He's likely on the road working.

If I were to switch the current HR21-100 with the same model I have upstairs, the calibrator would need to come back out to correctly adjust the display to the new DVR (?) Every time you introduce a new device within the setup, the calibration result becomes altered, in some or any degree (?)

thanks

Originally Posted by NateTTU

Is there a specific device (model/manufacture) that can give me a HD signal from OTA channels I get from the antenna?

Originally Posted by NateTTU

I need some help guys. I would like to get a TV signal to my 600M just in time for the super bowl.

I've taken a look through a few of the posts here dealing with tuners and what not, but I'm still confused. Most people seem to look for a DVR or something to get a signal from some dish or cable service. I just have an antenna in the attic and don't really need to record anything. Is there a specific device (model/manufacture) that can give me a HD signal from OTA channels I get from the antenna? I would like to keep the cost down if possible. Under $100 would be great if possible.

Any information would be great.

Thanks

Originally Posted by NateTTU

I need some help guys. I would like to get a TV signal to my 600M just in time for the super bowl.

I've taken a look through a few of the posts here dealing with tuners and what not, but I'm still confused. Most people seem to look for a DVR or something to get a signal from some dish or cable service. I just have an antenna in the attic and don't really need to record anything. Is there a specific device (model/manufacture) that can give me a HD signal from OTA channels I get from the antenna? I would like to keep the cost down if possible. Under $100 would be great if possible.

Any information would be great.

Thanks

Originally Posted by Acid Snow

I've owned a 500M for exactly 3 months, and I just now realized how unsatisfactory its' black levels are (it's calibrated properly). Its' blacks aren't even that dark . If this TV has "the best blacks" then damn, talk about fail.

...These blacks suck . If I own the best, then I feel sorry for the rest: because blacks are essential to good PQ. I wish I was still ignorant to what good 'black levels' meant. ...Now I'm just a critic.

These forums are a great, but they're also transform you... Into a eagle-eyed master... Who settles for nothing less than pure-awesomeness: I've acquired that eye, and I'm not happy

Originally Posted by AuralXTC



Sounds like something is wrong with your 500M then, I'm not sure how you could be anything but extremely impressed.

Originally Posted by Acid Snow

Whatever you do, just don't use a PC source and display a totally black pic, in a room with all the lights off. Because it will make you realize that it's not all that dark; like nothing like being "OFF."

Originally Posted by Acid Snow

I've owned a 500M for exactly 3 months, and I just now realized how unsatisfactory its' black levels are (it's calibrated properly). Its' blacks aren't even that dark . If this TV has "the best blacks" then damn, talk about fail.

...These blacks suck . If I own the best, then I feel sorry for the rest: because blacks are essential to good PQ. I wish I was still ignorant to what good 'black levels' meant. ...Now I'm just a critic.

These forums are a great, but they're also transform you... Into a eagle-eyed master... Who settles for nothing less than pure-awesomeness: I've acquired that eye, and I'm not happy

Originally Posted by Acid Snow

If you look at a totally black image, when in a room with all the lights off you'll see what I mean - just look close, and compare that to the bezel of the TV... It'll make you realize that it's not that dark; nothing like being "OFF."

It's just the best plasma can do at this point, which still has lots of room for improvement.

Originally Posted by Acid Snow

I've owned a 500M for exactly 3 months, and I just now realized how unsatisfactory its' black levels are (it's calibrated properly).

Originally Posted by NateTTU

On a slightly off topic note, did D-Nice ever post if he was officially going to be offering calibrations with his new technique/modification that lowers the MLL of the 600M?

Originally Posted by Acid Snow

...Alright, I exaggerated... The 500M's blacks are pretty dark. And now that I look at actual content and not a black screen, it's not noticeable, and in fact is very dark.

lol, lets move on to another topic. Sry to rustle the leaves

Originally Posted by blb1215

I have not seen any followup posts. I did see a post explaining how the 500m and 101 panels achieved their lower black level, it stated they were produced in a different/new plant that had more advanced/efficient way to apply coating that resulted in the lower black level.

I don't know if this is associated with the ability for "some" 60" panels to achieve lower black levels. Possible some of these 60" panel were produced in the new facility as well and maybe there is a way to "unlock" this ability? Of course I am only speculating.

D-Nice did state that he was able to achieve the lower black level on his 141 panel with assistance/information from engineer/engineers from Pioneer. He also stated he was looking into the possibility of making this "tweak" available to his customers.

I am also very interested in possibility and hope D-Nice updates us on the progress.

Barry

Originally Posted by AuralXTC

+1

This is the first time I've read about this, and boy oh boy would I be all over a D-Nice calibration for my 141FD's if he was able to lower the MLL. That would be absolutely incredible.

Originally Posted by blb1215

Even if this "tweak" does not work out you will still be happy with D-Nice calibration. He is the best IMO. He calibrated my 600M last spring and I am hoping by the time I am ready for a turn-up he will be offering this service.

barry

Originally Posted by exbagboy

An LCD with Kuro processing?

Sharp Electronics Corporation, the U.S. subsidiary of Japan’s Sharp Corporation, and Pioneer Electronics (USA) Inc. today announced that Sharp will be granted license of Pioneer’s “Elite” brand for a line of high-end flat panel displays

Originally Posted by Ronmck

Hi Guys,

Is this thread dead or has it moved?

Thanks,
Ron

Originally Posted by surap

Let me guess. You looked at a blank input? Then the black level always will be high(or is it low..confusing..he he)

Maybe someone can explain why a input without source have higher brighness. Is it a voltage thing?

Originally Posted by surap

You can revive this thread by making a calibration-program for macs ...