The Official Pioneer 9G North American KRP-500M / KRP-600M Owner's Discussion Pt. II - Page 212

Originally Posted by stumacdo

Hi all,

I've had my 500m for a little over 2 years now. I've got an extended 3-year warranty. Ran into an issue recently where one of the HDMI ports appears to have died. No biggie as I can run everything thru my AVR into one of the HDMI ports. However, I'm starting to think it may be worthwhile to utilize my warranty and see if the other port can be repaired (for future use). Does anyone know if the replacement of an HDMI port for this set is feasible/possible due to parts availability ? There's no way I'd "replace" this set via warranty over 1 dead HDMI port, but I was curious if anyone had any experience with the repair of a dead HDMI port via warranty ? Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by William Moore

Maybe you should contact Pioneer tech support first, assuming you can negotiate thru all those stupid and annoying recorded announcements, to see what they recommend. Also you would want to contact an authorized Pioneer servicer to perform this delicate "surgery," if that's what is needed.
Also, I'm wondering if someone could explain an issue I'm having with my KRP600M. I'm trying to set up the composite input using the Movie mode for playback of laserdiscs. MY LD player is directly connected to the TVs composite input. I have used my LD version of Video Essentials and obtained only "so-so" results, (gray blacks being the biggest issue) so I thought I could use my DV59AVi dvd player, using the composite out and the same cable, and then using AVIA or even the DVD version of Video Essentials, the test signals of which would be at least better quality and possibly more accurate, but after calibrating using this set-up, when I went back to play an LD, the blacks were way off at least as much or more than before. Why might this be? Any help would be appreciated.

Originally Posted by cjbonacci

There is no selectable color space with an analog composite input.

Originally Posted by William Moore

I own about 150 LDs and many of my titles have never shown up on DVD, let alone BluRay. How can I check if I have the right colorspace on this input? Probably a dumb question, but is it in the menu? Also, what about using another pic mode, rather than MOVIE, such as STANDARD?

Originally Posted by William Moore

when I went back to play an LD, the blacks were way off at least as much or more than before. Why might this be? Any help would be appreciated.

Originally Posted by blaken134

Looks like my 500m, about 2 years old now, is exhibiting some of the reddish tint in black areas that others on these boards have reported. I just noticed this yesterday: my 500m was recently repaired (A-board replaced and a few other components, I think) after I fried it by dropping one of the 500m's external speaker wires onto a surge protector (be careful with those wires!). I suspect that the red-shift was present on my 500m before the repair, and that I am only noticing it now because I was hunting for flaws after the extensive repair.

Regarding the red shift, I have noticed what several others have said: the empty, black areas of the screen (especially the blank aspect-ratio bars) appear slightly red instead of deep, dark (nearly black) gray. It seems most pronounced on the lower right-hand side. I cannot detect red at all in any kind of material other than dark, blank screens and black bars. I did not know anything about this kuro/500m red shift phenomenon until today when I searched for "500m red tint" in this forum, so I don't think that it's my imagination. I don't think that this reddish tint was present when I first bought the TV 2 years ago (back when I was hunting for every possible flaw), but who knows.

Anyway, not a big deal, and the picture is still miles better than my Panny p50g10, but as others have said, it seems that some of these sets aren't as flawless (over time, anyway) as the early raves indicated.

Originally Posted by blaken134

Looks like my 500m, about 2 years old now, is exhibiting some of the reddish tint in black areas that others on these boards have reported. I just noticed this yesterday: my 500m was recently repaired (A-board replaced and a few other components, I think) after I fried it by dropping one of the 500m's external speaker wires onto a surge protector (be careful with those wires!). I suspect that the red-shift was present on my 500m before the repair, and that I am only noticing it now because I was hunting for flaws after the extensive repair.

Regarding the red shift, I have noticed what several others have said: the empty, black areas of the screen (especially the blank aspect-ratio bars) appear slightly red instead of deep, dark (nearly black) gray. It seems most pronounced on the lower right-hand side. I cannot detect red at all in any kind of material other than dark, blank screens and black bars. I did not know anything about this kuro/500m red shift phenomenon until today when I searched for "500m red tint" in this forum, so I don't think that it's my imagination. I don't think that this reddish tint was present when I first bought the TV 2 years ago (back when I was hunting for every possible flaw), but who knows.

Anyway, not a big deal, and the picture is still miles better than my Panny p50g10, but as others have said, it seems that some of these sets aren't as flawless (over time, anyway) as the early raves indicated.

Originally Posted by Mac13

Not sure if you saw my comments or not but I had pretty much the same experience as you (I have a 500M as well). It is mainly noticeable in completely black scenes or in the letterbox bars. I think mine is a little more pronounced in the upper right corner. I never noticed the reddish tint when I first got the display and I looked the TV over very carefully for any flaws back then. It is very disappointing that this has happened to our TVs. I love my Kuro and think it is the best display ever made but it makes me mad that this problem has popped up. People treat these TVs like a god but they have problems just like other TVs do. I have been wanting to get a larger display anyways and even though the quality supposedly won't reach 500M levels I am in a sad way glad to not watch on my 500M as much because I tend to focus on the red tint now.

Originally Posted by vinnie97

Well, Pio did seemingly rush out these 9.5G series, so this may have got past the QC in their rush to release before the operations were halted.

Originally Posted by surap


What happens if you turn down the R-cut?

Originally Posted by Mac13

Not sure if you saw my comments or not but I had pretty much the same experience as you (I have a 500M as well). It is mainly noticeable in completely black scenes or in the letterbox bars. I think mine is a little more pronounced in the upper right corner. I never noticed the reddish tint when I first got the display and I looked the TV over very carefully for any flaws back then. It is very disappointing that this has happened to our TVs. I love my Kuro and think it is the best display ever made but it makes me mad that this problem has popped up. People treat these TVs like a god but they have problems just like other TVs do. I have been wanting to get a larger display anyways and even though the quality supposedly won't reach 500M levels I am in a sad way glad to not watch on my 500M as much because I tend to focus on the red tint now.

Originally Posted by dlplover

Just for curiosity, do any of you with this red problem video-game heavily? I notice a number of games have red pause screens etc.. so perhaps you're seeing some kind of Red Dead Retention

Originally Posted by D-Nice

Pioneer never rushed out the monitors. They were planned well before they ever came to market.

Originally Posted by vinnie97

I was only surmising, but the manufacturing arm that was responsible for building the last batches must've known they were about to get the axe, or at least had some clues so as to be able to make that conclusion.

Originally Posted by mwasie

That's why I think the people with issues should reveal what month their set was manufactured. I remember some of the sets were manufactured after Pioneer revealed what was going to happen. Maybe I'm wrong.

Originally Posted by D-Nice

I have a September 2008 101FD, January 2009 500M and February 2009 141FD. None have an unusual red tint to the blacks.

Originally Posted by D-Nice

I have a September 2008 101FD, January 2009 500M and February 2009 141FD. None have an unusual red tint to the blacks.

Originally Posted by saprano

Did post get deleted?

Originally Posted by Mac13

My 500M has a manufacture date of October 2008