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Originally Posted by William Moore View Post

I have read the manual on this a couple of times and keep saying to myself, "Huh?" Also, there is a disclaimer in the manual warning that Pioneer is not responsible for any damage caused by performing any of the procedures, so this REALLY makes me nervous..

well, s* can happen at anytime.. I myself have a similar warning and if I help you, you assume all the risk.... I won't be responsible for any damage now or in the future if it happens. wink.gif

it's really basic networking
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Anyway, will my router work ok? .

I use those routers or other models of them (basically linksys which Cisco owns) but I run 3rd party firmware on each of my routers...
post #6692 of 6954
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Originally Posted by turbe View Post

well, s* can happen at anytime.. I myself have a similar warning and if I help you, you assume all the risk.... I won't be responsible for any damage now or in the future if it happens. wink.gif

it's really basic networking
I use those routers or other models of them (basically linksys which Cisco owns) but I run 3rd party firmware on each of my routers...

Now there's a "vote of confidence" I may not be able to live with. What could possibly go wrong?
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Boy! This thread is becoming a "ghost town." Anyway, I have noticed a small spot of something dried on the glass. It's pretty small, but noticeable when I inspect the screen and not noticeable when I'm viewing the display. In any event, I would like to remove it if I can safely. I took a small cotton cloth and rubbed my finger (wrapped with the cloth) across the spot and I could tell that it's on the outside of the glass. I have a small bottle of Caig Labs screen cleaner, the contents of which are de-ionized water and polymers, according to the label, but I have never used it fearing that it might harm the coating on the glass. Any suggestions?
post #6694 of 6954
^Distilled water is the safest solution to use.
post #6695 of 6954
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

^Distilled water is the safest solution to use.
Just use a soft cotton cloth slightly moistened with the water? Do you think that the Caig cleaner would be too harsh?
post #6696 of 6954
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

^Distilled water is the safest solution to use.
Just use a soft cotton cloth slightly moistened with the water? Do you think that the Caig cleaner would be too harsh?
If it's anything but distilled water, yes it's too harsh. You don't want any chemicals or residue. Micro fiber cloth is better than cotton if the cotton isn't lint free.
post #6697 of 6954
No, a lint-free cloth. Cotton will likely scratch the surface. There's no point in taking risks with the solution.
post #6698 of 6954
I used microfiber cloths then discovered microfiber mitts. SO much easier. Once my spectral foam spray dried it was less than two minutes to gleaming squeaky clean using the mitt/glove
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Originally Posted by Stu03 View Post

I used microfiber cloths then discovered microfiber mitts. SO much easier. Once my spectral foam spray dried it was less than two minutes to gleaming squeaky clean using the mitt/glove
Where did you get those mitts and just exactly what is "spectral foam spray?" Is that some type of approved plasma screen cleaner? Thanks!
post #6700 of 6954
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Originally Posted by William Moore View Post

Where did you get those mitts and just exactly what is "spectral foam spray?" Is that some type of approved plasma screen cleaner? Thanks!


It's a high grade (chemical and additive free) cleaning foam made by a specialist German manufacturer. Safe for every type of display from cell/mobile phones up to plasma/LCD. It uses a "carbon honeycomb structure" whatever that means lol.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B001MJ0DZU

It is incredibly good - cuts through grease also and harmless. Very concentrated it lasted me two years my first can. On a 50" screen a ball of foam sprayed on a microfiber cloth the size of a tennis ball was more than enough. Circular motion then up down and side to side. It's importable though if not available in the US. Audiovisual online will probably import a can.

The mitt that i used is found in most supermarkets here in the UK s. And once the foam is dry or very nearly dry it's simple to buff out...
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I just learned of this darbee darbet(video enhancer) and saw that if gets very good reviews. Was wondering if anyone has used it with their 500m. Dont get me wrong i love the PQ of my 500m and cant see it getting better but none the less,this has me intriqued.
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Originally Posted by rocky1 View Post

I just learned of this darbee darbet(video enhancer) and saw that if gets very good reviews. Was wondering if anyone has used it with their 500m. Dont get me wrong i love the PQ of my 500m and cant see it getting better but none the less,this has me intriqued.

I have a 600M and have been using the Darblet with it for several months. I like it and definitely notice a difference with it and my 600M. I sit about 10 feet from the screen. It give best results with highest quality sources like blu-rays. It also works primarily only in the small detail areas and not in broad swathes. The more detail in the picture the more you will see sharpness increase. Of course if you are sitting too far away from your 500M you may not notice any difference using it. Rather than discuss it here tho perhaps ask more about it in this thread. http://www.avsforum.com/t/1399154/darbee-vision-darblet Again I very much like mine and have it on always.
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I was wondering if anyone here could help me with my newly acquired 500m? I wanted to enable the ISF modes first and foremost. I used the "KuroControl" program to switch the model to the European version instead of updating the firmware. I did this over LAN connection.

However, I am not sure about that program for inputting the picture settings. I don't know if they are all being applied to the display.

When I select "ISF Day" or "ISF Night" I cannot adjust ANY picture settings for those presets with the remote. They are all grayed out. Why is this?

How can I determine that all the settings are correct for these modes?


And what if I want to use a meter to calibrate the display? How do I do that if I cannot access the picture controls for the ISF mode with the remote?


I would suspect I am missing something fairly basic but I don't know what it is. Could someone here please help me with this?
post #6704 of 6954
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Originally Posted by jrodefeld View Post

They are all grayed out. Why is this?
That's how ISFccc modes work. They disable most/all picture controls.
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How can I determine that all the settings are correct for these modes?

Measure them.
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How do I do that if I cannot access the picture controls for the ISF mode with the remote?

You have to use a program that can manipulate the controls. KuroControl is one such program.
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A few questions about the KRP 500M, I got the HDTV a few months ago but only started to use it recently after my move to the new apartment was done:

1- Is there any way to disable the automatic change in picture settings depending on the used source (resolutions/frequency..etc)? Other than using the Integrator menu to set global values, it's pretty annoying and doesn't go well with my OCD nature lol.

2- I play video games mostly and when I access the picture settings while in-game, the whole picture shifts in position by a small amount, why does that happen? I use orbiter mode 2 and it happens even in Full screen size.

3- Is it me or does the "Full" scree size zoom into the picture more than other 9G Kuros? Dot by dot is obviously not an option with a 720p source, any way to adjust how much it zooms in the picture? Or maybe this is all just in my head lol

Any help would be appreciated!!
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Originally Posted by Stu03 View Post

It's a high grade (chemical and additive free) cleaning foam made by a specialist German manufacturer. Safe for every type of display from cell/mobile phones up to plasma/LCD. It uses a "carbon honeycomb structure" whatever that means lol.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B001MJ0DZU

It is incredibly good - cuts through grease also and harmless. Very concentrated it lasted me two years my first can. On a 50" screen a ball of foam sprayed on a microfiber cloth the size of a tennis ball was more than enough. Circular motion then up down and side to side. It's importable though if not available in the US. Audiovisual online will probably import a can.

The mitt that i used is found in most supermarkets here in the UK s. And once the foam is dry or very nearly dry it's simple to buff out...
Hi, just a brief note that I used distilled water and the Pioneer "official" KRP cleaning cloth to get rid of that spot i mentioned a few posts back. Worked like a charm. Also, yesterday I was doing some dusting behind my KRP, which is a little cramped to access since it's pushed back inside a wall cutout I had done several years for my Sony RPTV. (Remember those?) Anyway, I was just wondering if I should use the dusting brush on my portable vac to vacuum the back side of the panel to remove any dust. Or is this a really bad idea? Thanks!
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Originally Posted by William Moore View Post

I was just wondering if I should use the dusting brush on my portable vac to vacuum the back side of the panel to remove any dust. Or is this a really bad idea? Thanks!
It sounds good to me.
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

It sounds good to me.
Anyone else care to comment? I don't want to have any regrets because I sucked all the pixels out of the back side. (Just kidding)smile.gif
post #6709 of 6954
Make sure you shut off the plasma valve before vacuuming, or it could suck all the plasma out.
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Originally Posted by jdcrox View Post

Make sure you shut off the plasma valve before vacuuming, or it could suck all the plasma out.
Seriously, since the panel is vertical, can that must dust get thru all those ventilation holes? There is a thin layer of dust on the back side, though. Maybe just a wipe down with a microfiber cloth? Or a damp towel? just looking for suggestions. thanks.
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Originally Posted by William Moore View Post

Seriously, since the panel is vertical, can that must dust get thru all those ventilation holes? There is a thin layer of dust on the back side, though. Maybe just a wipe down with a microfiber cloth? Or a damp towel? just looking for suggestions. thanks.


I wouldn't worry about dust accumulating inside the back. There is nothing back inside there that would even matter if an inch of dust built up as there are no moving parts. Only thing that would matter is if all the ventilation holes got blocked up and the whole thing overheated.


A damp cloth at the back like you mentioned - dry - then a strong suction hoover pipe/hose to lift out the dust, hovering about a half an inch from the back plate at all the ventilation holes should suffice...
post #6712 of 6954
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Originally Posted by Stu03 View Post

I wouldn't worry about dust accumulating inside the back. There is nothing back inside there that would even matter if an inch of dust built up as there are no moving parts. Only thing that would matter is if all the ventilation holes got blocked up and the whole thing overheated.


A damp cloth at the back like you mentioned - dry - then a strong suction hoover pipe/hose to lift out the dust, hovering about a half an inch from the back plate at all the ventilation holes should suffice...
What would be wrong with using a dusting brush on the end of vacuum hose rather than a crevice tool as you seemed to suggest? Just playing "devil's advocate" here.
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Originally Posted by William Moore View Post

What would be wrong with using a dusting brush on the end of vacuum hose rather than a crevice tool as you seemed to suggest? Just playing "devil's advocate" here.

My plasma is wall mounted on a pull-out & swivel frame, so that I can easily access the rear connections. I use the brush on the vacuum to dust the back, never had a problem in 4 years of ownership. My mount is very smooth in operation, but normally I only move it when the panel is off and cool.
Regards, Mike.
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Originally Posted by AV_mike View Post

My plasma is wall mounted on a pull-out & swivel frame, so that I can easily access the rear connections. I use the brush on the vacuum to dust the back, never had a problem in 4 years of ownership. My mount is very smooth in operation, but normally I only move it when the panel is off and cool.
Regards, Mike.
Mike: I'm assuming that you use the brush with the vacuum turned on, right? A stupid question, but maybe some might use the brush just as a brush. "I'm just sayin....." Also, what kind of mount (brand) are you using? Thanks!
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Originally Posted by William Moore View Post

Mike: I'm assuming that you use the brush with the vacuum turned on, right? A stupid question, but maybe some might use the brush just as a brush. "I'm just sayin....." Also, what kind of mount (brand) are you using? Thanks!

Yes, vacuum on. The mount is from m-formonline - I just tried to access their website to see if the type I've got is still available, but the site is not responding. mad.gif
I can't remember the actual name - but it's a substantial scissor action mechanism. The panel can be pulled approx. 50cm out from the wall, and then swiveled left/right until either end touches the wall (in my case about +/- 30 degrees.
I wasn't going to trust my 500m to any old weedy bracket cool.gif

Regards, Mike.
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Originally Posted by William Moore View Post

What would be wrong with using a dusting brush on the end of vacuum hose rather than a crevice tool as you seemed to suggest? Just playing "devil's advocate" here.


Nothing wrong with that either i suppose :-D



Every lucky Kuro owner clean their irreplaceable Pioneer 9G's as they see fit i guess wink.gif
post #6717 of 6954
How can I identify a European 500M from a US one? Is there any difference between them besides ISFccc modes?

How do you enable the ISFccc in the European models (unless they're already enabled in those without having to do anything about it)?
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Question: Has anyone used a laserdisc player with their KRP? I am trying to find out what the best picture mode would be for this...Pure, Movie, Dynamic, Standard, etc. and, how might I be able to set the picture controls to make video look acceptable or better. It seems that fleshtones are hardest to get looking natural rather than reddish. I just thought that maybe someone out there has set up a picture mode and what the settings might be. Thanks.
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OK, I know laserdisc is a dead format but I know there are still many LD fans out there, but I guess there's no "Official LD Forum." Maybe I should start one.
Anyway, here's another "vexing" question: When I'm viewing video from an LD on my KRP600, on the far right side of the picture is a vertical stripe, transparant in nature, which can be distracting if it gets wide enough. Sometimes the stripe is not in the picture, but more often than not, it shows up. I have tried the horizontal picture adjustment, which does get rid of the stripe, but it always comes back. Anyone know what might be causing this...overscan, maybe?
post #6720 of 6954
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Originally Posted by William Moore View Post

OK, I know laserdisc is a dead format but I know there are still many LD fans out there, but I guess there's no "Official LD Forum." Maybe I should start one.
Anyway, here's another "vexing" question: When I'm viewing video from an LD on my KRP600, on the far right side of the picture is a vertical stripe, transparant in nature, which can be distracting if it gets wide enough. Sometimes the stripe is not in the picture, but more often than not, it shows up. I have tried the horizontal picture adjustment, which does get rid of the stripe, but it always comes back. Anyone know what might be causing this...overscan, maybe?
If you don't see it with other sources, Blu-ray or DVD for instance, then it's probably your LD player.
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