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post #31 of 80
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Originally Posted by tux99 View Post

There are a few available (and listed on my overview), but only available in Europe and Asia so far (AFAIK).

I know, but I can wait for them to become available in the USA.

I made that mistake with the POV/Pegatron mobo. I wanted it NOW, so I ordered it from a UK dealer. I ended up paying $100 more for it, and only got it six weeks earlier. It's a nice board, but I should have just waited for Logic Supply to get them in.
post #32 of 80
I don't know how much merit to give it, but I found this (poorly worded) blog about a new Asus N330 ION netbook.

http://www.it-echo.com/2009/10/13/as...windows-7.html

Another source:

http://www.liliputing.com/2009/10/as...cs-leaked.html
post #33 of 80
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Thanks for the pointer, I'm in the process of re-doing the list, I'm splitting it up in more than one page as it's getting long, there are a few more new ION based products to add too.
post #34 of 80
Great webpage tux. But dammit the Asus has only 3 SATA ports, and there is no Gigabyte. Maybe they have a non-Ion-based ITX with at least 4 SATA ports. I don't really need any video at all for my SAN server.

But I do need a BluRay drive. IMO there's no need for a writer, with disk space so cheep, but I do need a slim drive for my GD02 case. Low priority though.
post #35 of 80
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Forget about ION for your SAN server, any Intel integrated graphics is fine, that will give you a much wider choice of boards and they cost less than ION boards too.
post #36 of 80
That saves some time, thanks.
post #37 of 80
Lots of good news on the Ion netbook front- I've been waiting to buy a netbook until a VDPAU capable Nvidia GPU was available- AFAIK there aren't any AMD CPU based VDPAU capable netbooks on the horizon (Intel monopoly and all ).

The specs appear to be the Dream Netbook I've been waiting for- dual core, VDPAU, 720p or higher ~12" screen, 1080p video playback capable (play via VGA or *HDMI* out to a panel or projector- i.e. ultimate mobile media PC ), and >2GB RAM capable.

Note the *HDMI* out !

Specs list spotted for ASUS' ION powered Eee PC 1201N

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/13301/..._eee_pc_1201n/

" a 12.1-inch screen, dual-core Atom 333 CPU (a nice adjustment over the previously rumored Atom 270), 3GB of RAM, 320GB HDD, HDMI out, multitouch trackpad, six-cell battery and of course Windows 7. There's three color choices for the unit; black, blue, or red. "


ASUS's Ion-based Eee PC 1201N, non-Ion 1201HA turn up in yet another leak

http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/13/a...up-in-yet-ano/

"...this one will pack a 12.1-inch screen and Ion chipset as expected, plus an dual-core Atom 330 processor, which is certainly more welcome than the Atom 270 that was previously rumored. Otherwise, you can apparently expect 3GB of RAM, a 320GB hard drive, HDMI out, a multitouch trackpad, and a six-cell battery, among other standard fare (including Windows 7, of course). If that's all a bit much for you, it looks like ASUS will also have a non-Ion version of the netbook in the form of the Eee PC 1201HA, which dials the specs back across the board, including an Intel Atom Z520 and the usual integrated GMA 500 graphics in place of Ion. Still no firm word on a release for either of 'em, but all signs point to them being available on or shortly after the big Windows 7 launch date."

http://www.netbookreviews.net/asus/eee-pc-1201n/
"The specification have been confirmed as having a 12.1-inch 1366 x 768 display, running an Intel Atom N330 dual core CPU, GeForce 9400M (ION Graphics), 3GB of DDR2 RAM, 320GB hard drive. It also have 802.11n WiFi, webcam, and a high capacity 6-cell 5200mAh battery, which should last for upto 8 hours"

"The Asus 1201N is also the first Eee PC to feature Ion graphics, and Windows 7 Home Premium."

"It is expected to launch in the U.S shortly, with a price of $499."

"Updated: Correct spections have been added. Such as the Dual Core Atom and increased RAM and HDD space."

Display: 12.1 inch, 1366 x 768 pixels
CPU: 1.6GHz Intel Atom N330 dual core
Graphics & chipset: NVIDIA ION (GeForce 9400M)
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium
Memory: 3GB DDR2
Storage: 320GB HDD + 500GB web-based storage
Connectivity: 802.11b/g/n WiFI, Bluetooth, Ethernet
I/O: HDMI, VGA, 3 USB 2.0 ports, SD card slot, mic, headphones
Webcam: 0.3MP
Touchpad: Supports multitouch gestures
Battery: 6 cells, 8 hours
Colors: Black, blue, or red
Dimensions: 11.7″ x 8.2″ x 1.3″
Weight: 3.1 pounds
post #38 of 80
Has anyone seen what an Asus EEE PC 1201 might cost?
post #39 of 80
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Originally Posted by waterhead View Post

Has anyone seen what an Asus EEE PC 1201 might cost?

http://www.netbookreviews.net/asus/eee-pc-1201n/
"It is expected to launch in the U.S shortly, with a price of $499."
post #40 of 80
Thanks. I was at work, and couldn't read all of the links you gave.

I decided that I also want to have an on-board wireless broadband card on mine. I don't think that Asus has this available on any of the Eee PCs. I know that HP, Dell and Acer offer it on some of their netbooks, so I may wait until they come out with one. HP has the Mini 311, but it doesn't have the N330 CPU. Just a N270/N280 Atom CPU.
post #41 of 80
Engadget says the dual-core Revo is now shipping to the US

http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/a...ng-to-america/

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Acer's been on quite the rampage of late, pumping out more machines during this week before the Windows 7 launch than in the past few months combined. The latest rig to get the a-okay from the shipping department is the refreshed AspireRevo R3610-U9012, a machine which was originally outed back at IFA. This one ups the ante over the former with a 1.66GHz dual-core Atom 330 (as opposed to an Atom 230), Windows 7 Home Premium, NVIDIA Ion graphics, 2GB of DDR2 RAM, a 160GB hard drive, six USB 2.0 sockets, an HDMI port, eSATA connector, VGA, multicard reader and gigabit Ethernet. There's also WiFi, audio in / out and a bundled wireless keyboard and mouse, though all that oomph in such a small package will cost you $329.99 to bring home.

Nothing showing up in Froogle yet tho.
post #42 of 80
too bad the revo doesn't have spdif out. I'm looking into buying, building an ion system over the next couple of months, and the revo looks great, but I need spdif in my setup. Not sure how well any usb audio cards will work and how much fiddling they will require, but I'd rather avoid that...
post #43 of 80
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Originally Posted by newlinux View Post

too bad the revo doesn't have spdif out. I'm looking into buying, building an ion system over the next couple of months, and the revo looks great, but I need spdif in my setup. Not sure how well any usb audio cards will work and how much fiddling they will require, but I'd rather avoid that...

Everything I read suggests the Turtle Beach USB audio is a snap under linux.
post #44 of 80
there is a new Zotac F series with a pci-e x16 slot coming out and also a new zotac htpc based on the ion. The F series board is a big deal to me due to allowing me to use the ion as a low power nexenta/opensolaris zfs file server. (hopefully)

http://www.megatechnews.com/megatech...ag-itx-system/
post #45 of 80
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Originally Posted by blackoper View Post

there is a new Zotac F series with a pci-e x16 slot coming out and also a new zotac htpc based on the ion. The F series board is a big deal to me due to allowing me to use the ion as a low power nexenta/opensolaris zfs file server. (hopefully)

http://www.megatechnews.com/megatech...ag-itx-system/

Thanks, someone also just notified me of those via email, will add them to the overview.

What I'm wondering is why do you need an ION board for a low power nexenta/opensolaris zfs file server?
Any cheap Atom board with Intel chipset and PCIe slot would be fine for that, the ION GPU would be wasted in a file server.
Also there is already an ION board with PCIe slot available, the POV/Pegatron board (see my overview).
post #46 of 80
those cheap atom boards with the intel 945 chipset use a ton of power. About 50+ watts at idle due to the crappy 945 power hungry chipset. I may just do the cheap thing and underclock an extra core2duo I have and drop it on a decent board.
post #47 of 80
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Originally Posted by blackoper View Post

those cheap atom boards with the intel 945 chipset use a ton of power. About 50+ watts at idle due to the crappy 945 power hungry chipset. I may just do the cheap thing and underclock an extra core2duo I have and drop it on a decent board.

No way, they use less than 30 Watts, my Shuttle K45 with a E5300 and 945 chipset uses about 55 Watts idle.

http://www.mini-itx.com/reviews/atom...ult.asp?page=7
post #48 of 80
Could anyone tell me how well a Atom 330 + Ion combo runs? I see that HD video runs fine, and thats good, but considering Linux has no Bluray support and ABC's HD video requires Windows.. well doesnt do me much good.

What I'm looking for is a nettop for my dad so he can easily watch Hulu and other videos. Boxee is great, even though Hulu has gimped it. Hulu Desktop is a side option though. So how well does flash run on this platform with Ubuntu? I've been hearing that Nvidia is going to release some kind of acceleration for Ion, or something like that. Also that Adobe is working on an improved Flash for linux. Is any of that true? If so, timeline? Where do things stand now?

Thanks! Oh and your site is awesome! I no longer have to store a ton of Engadget tag sites in my bookmarks. Thanks.

Edit: One more question. I read somewhere that Netflix is working on making Watch Instantly more cross platform, that it uses Silverlight right now. I know theres Moonlight though. God, could you imagine a $200 nettop, Ubuntu + Boxee, Bluray, Hulu and Netflix integration..

Edit2: Does Boxee and Hulu Desktop run ok in 64bit Ubuntu? Not sure if 64bit is the way to go with the dual-core Atom.
post #49 of 80
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I have added the new Zotac IONITX-F board and 2 new ION netbooks (HP and Lenovo) to the overview.

Omen_20, if you need Flash HD video support then currently an ION system is not a good choice, there were some reports that using Boxee Hulu HD works on it, but the new Flash version with video hardware decoding isn't expected before early next year.

I'm not US based though, so I have no direct experience with Hulu or Netflix, someone else might be in a better position to help you with that.
post #50 of 80
non hd feeds of hulu in boxee seem to work fine on a single core 230 zotac ion board from my usage. (havn't tried 64 bit, I'm using mythbuntu diskless on the zotac boards). I would think a 330 wouldn't have any problem with standard def hulu feeds so I'd go that route over the 230. Once hardware acceleration for flash comes out, a 230 would be fine. Trying to run hulu in a browser causes all kinds of problems so I'm guessing hulu does something to streamline it.
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post #52 of 80
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Originally Posted by Omen_20 View Post

Could anyone tell me how well a Atom 330 + Ion combo runs? I see that HD video runs fine, and thats good, but considering Linux has no Bluray support and ABC's HD video requires Windows.. well doesnt do me much good.

Just side commentary- what ABC and FOX are doing is a form of non-net neutral throttling.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_neutrality

As a consumer and supporter of personal freedoms, you should be pro net neutrality, i.e. we *want* the net to be neutral, i.e. websites should adhere to OS agnostic standards (as well as ISP's not throttling users and/or specific websites).

A website that requires an OS-specific plugin or addon is at fault, NOT the user or his OS.

The use of a proprietary plugin is "throttling" the content from those who can't use the plugin.
post #53 of 80
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Originally Posted by Rgb View Post

Who needs ion?

http://atechfabrication.com/products...y%20Player.htm

The whole point of the ION is no not spend the watts to power a 3.0 GHz E8400! Well, egads, you could do ANYTHING with a 3.0 GHz quad core chip, including heat your house! We want something quiet that draws 25 watts including the hard drive.
post #54 of 80
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Originally Posted by erkq View Post

The whole point of the ION is no not spend the watts to power a 3.0 GHz E8400! Well, egads, you could do ANYTHING with a 3.0 GHz quad core chip, including heat your house! We want something quiet that draws 25 watts including the hard drive.

Yeah, I know about the low power and all- mainly wanted to give a heads up to the cases on that site...
post #55 of 80
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Originally Posted by Rgb View Post

Yeah, I know about the low power and all- mainly wanted to give a heads up to the cases on that site...

Oh, thanks. Those are some NICE cases.
post #56 of 80
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Originally Posted by erkq View Post

Oh, thanks. Those are some NICE cases.

This bad boy looks just like all that high end AV equipment-

http://atechfabrication.com/products/HeatSync_7000.htm

You don't need no steekin' fans when the WHOLE CASE is a heatsink
post #57 of 80
haha... $750 for a case.. I'd rather have five 1.5TB hard drives instead and a decent $100 case. The case would be worth more than all the components in it combined and multiplied by a factor of 3 or 4. It does look nice however. I may start playing with cutting aluminum on my cnc equipment and see if I can replicate it for myself.
post #58 of 80
Screw Intel. Their anti-competitive practices came to full light recently when they agreed to pay $1.2B to AMD.

Anyone have any experience with "Jetway"? Is the 780G any good?
post #59 of 80
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Originally Posted by quantumstate View Post

Screw Intel. Their anti-competitive practices came to full light recently when they agreed to pay $1.2B to AMD.

Anyone have any experience with "Jetway"? Is the 780G any good?

I don't have experience with Jetway boards but the 780/5G chipset is good, my desktop/media-server AMD based PC has the 770 chipset which is very similar (but without the integrated graphics) and it's solid and reliable.

Never had any issues even when doing resyncs of my 4TB Raid5 array (which means massive amount of data flowing through it) attached to the Southbridge SATA connectors.
Just keep in mind that an AMD based solution will be nowhere as low power as an Atom based solution, it will be more like a Intel C2D based solution (50-60 Watts instead of 20-30).
post #60 of 80
That's OK. Don't need it for my car, but for my backup storage server in the garage.
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