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post #31 of 405
Looks great here. One of the best looking games ever on Fox. Sound mix is pretty good for Fox too. KDFW Dallas via FiOS. Not seeing any stuttering.
post #32 of 405
Gorgeous picture here...Audio not up to par with Sunday Night Football in my opinion...New stadium is awesome...Stable video no shaking...

WXIX
Cincinnati
OTA
post #33 of 405
The video does seem a little hot.
post #34 of 405
I have noticed this as well. It's most noticeable when by cable box was outputting FOX at 1080i and displaying on my 1080p dlp.

Changing the cable box to output at 720p made most of it go away. Also watching over the air or via the tv's QAM tuner did not show noticable stutter.
post #35 of 405
Lots of stuttering here. TWC NE Ohio. Last nights game too. OTA looks great.
post #36 of 405
Is the Cowboys game on in HD? I am in the Atlanta market and the game is only in SD on Comcast.
post #37 of 405
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Originally Posted by Panth1 View Post

I have noticed this as well. It's most noticeable when by cable box was outputting FOX at 1080i and displaying on my 1080p dlp.

Changing the cable box to output at 720p made most of it go away. Also watching over the air or via the tv's QAM tuner did not show noticable stutter.

And again...

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Originally Posted by Ken H View Post

If you are seeing the problem, post the city and call letters of the FOX HD station you are watching, and your provider; OTA, Cable, DBS, Verizon, AT&T.
post #38 of 405
Looking great here in Chicago. Best PQ I've seen on FOX, and without a doubt the best Fox Audio I've heard for a Fox NFL broadcast. What did they do to improve the PQ?
post #39 of 405
Thread Starter 
Yes, the stuttering has continued. Frustrating that only some people are seeing this, hope this is dealt with and fixed soon!

Charter Cable
post #40 of 405
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by videoguy60467 View Post

What did they do to improve the PQ?

Splicer upgrade i'm assuming??
post #41 of 405
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Originally Posted by Mike4HDTV View Post

The new stadium looks amazing especially the giant HD screen.

I already told my wife that I want one. At least after the current projector goes.
post #42 of 405
They did something, I just hope they can deliver this level of quality all season for every game. I doubt it.
post #43 of 405
Topics merged.
post #44 of 405
And again:

If you are seeing the problem, post the city and call letters of the FOX HD station you are watching, and your provider; OTA, Cable, DBS, Verizon, AT&T.
post #45 of 405
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Originally Posted by videoguy60467 View Post

....and without a doubt the best Fox Audio I've heard for a Fox NFL broadcast.

?

FOX has always had great 5.1. Nothing at all has changed in that respect.
post #46 of 405


A guy on Flickr posted the Cowboys 1080P screen playing Madden on the PS3. insane
the game looks really good tonight but i am also noticing a bit of stutter on comcast in Miami

some specs on the screen:
Width: 159’ 7-1/16”
Height: 71’ 4-3/4”
Total LEDs: 10,584,064
Pixel-Pitch: 20mm
Screen Area: 11,393 square feet
Power Consumption: 635 Kilowatts
Screen Weight: Approx. 170,000 lbs
Video Source: 1080p HDTV
Resolution: 2,176 x 4,864
post #47 of 405
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Originally Posted by sayanythingrock View Post

the game looks really good tonight but i am also noticing a bit of stutter on comcast in Miami

For those of you who haven't figured it out, I'm trying to get it fixed, but I need help.

If you are seeing the problem, post the city and call letters of the FOX HD station you are watching, and your provider; OTA, Cable, DBS, Verizon, AT&T.
post #48 of 405
Watching the Ttians/Cowboys game. Absolutely no stuttering visible so far.

OTA / WTTG-DT / DC
post #49 of 405
Thread Starter 
Stuttering

Los Angeles, CA
KTTV FOX 11

OTA and Charter Cable
post #50 of 405
Bad stuttering tonight and last night

TWC, WNYW FOX 5, New York City
post #51 of 405
I'm getting audio sync/stutters. Same thing happened a couple weeks ago when I was watching Red Sox Yankee game. I believe instead of video stuttering I'm hearing audio stutter. This is the only channel.

Directv, WXXA-23 FOX, Albany, NY
post #52 of 405
No stutter here on Comcast in the Chicago area......looks great btw.
post #53 of 405
Ok. After messing around with a bit, it appears that the problem may be with the way my cable box decodes the signals (Explorer 8300HDC). If I plug the cable coax into my TV, and let its QAM tuner decode it, it looks great. Once I plug it back into the Explorer, same signal is choppy.

FOX WSYT, TWC-CNY.

Edit: Finally figured out how to change the screen resolution on my box, and changing it to 720p (my TV's native resolution), does nothing to quell the stuttering.
post #54 of 405
Bad stuttering on WTTG Fox 5 DC via Comcast.
post #55 of 405
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Originally Posted by Ken H View Post

?

FOX has always had great 5.1. Nothing at all has changed in that respect.

Ken - I agree it's always been good, but tonight's game seems to have better crowd presence. Overall the mix seems much improved; definitely in the league with SNF. Nothing has changed on my system.
post #56 of 405
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Originally Posted by sayanythingrock View Post



A guy on Flickr posted the Cowboys 1080P screen playing Madden on the PS3. insane
the game looks really good tonight but i am also noticing a bit of stutter on comcast in Miami

some specs on the screen:
Width: 159' 7-1/16
Height: 71' 4-3/4
Total LEDs: 10,584,064
Pixel-Pitch: 20mm
Screen Area: 11,393 square feet
Power Consumption: 635 Kilowatts
Screen Weight: Approx. 170,000 lbs
Video Source: 1080p HDTV
Resolution: 2,176 x 4,864

OK.... anyone have a pic of the remote???
post #57 of 405
I'm getting some stutter... most of the time right when the ball is hiked. It seemed to happen more during the first half then now (middle of 4th).

Time Warner Cable, Albany NY.
post #58 of 405
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Originally Posted by timick1 View Post

I'm getting some stutter... most of the time right when the ball is hiked. It seemed to happen more during the first half then now (middle of 4th).

Time Warner Cable, Albany NY.

Also watching via TWC Albany, NY on WXXA. Only watched a few minutes of the Dallas game tonight, but saw the same effect I noticed last Saturday afternoon watching Mets baseball. It looks to me as if a frame here and there is being dropped (or repeated) as players in motion seem to skip ahead periodically to a new location. My 8300 DVR is configured to pass thru 720P to my 1080P plasma. Never noticed this during sports any time in the past on Fox until recently; at about the time this thread started.
post #59 of 405
Watched both the Eagles and Cowboys games. All of them looked good, no stutter effect on Comcast. The PQ on the Eagles game was some of the best live HD i've ever seen on TV ever. It was stunning. Detailed, sharp, contrasty, deep blacks and crisp whites, nice saturation. Very nicely done. The Cowboys game seemed to be a bit noisy to me, had some issues with the grass, not swimming but just noisy. Maybe the bar was set high by the Eagles game the night before, which to me set a new standard, reminded me of the old days of HD. The ESPN highlights were a noticeable downgrade from the OTA broadcast (that's to be expected, though a lot of ESPN highlights look better than the actual game did in some instances).
post #60 of 405
Well it not happening during the commercials in a way makes sense since for the most part the commercials are locally inserted and are not of the national level...But with that in mind one would think that the national commercials would show a sign of shaking...

As I reported earlier there was no shaking or stuttering or judder...whatever you want to call it...here on my set using an OTA antenna and a set top HD box...not one of the CECB but an actual DVI output HD ATSC tuner...on my CRT HD RPTV...Man that's alot of acronyms !!! I did not attempt to check using the STB QAM reception (more acronyms! ) as it has been my experience that nothing is better than OTA quality for both picture and sound...QAM is certainly acceptable but I want the best possible and the best is the source that goes thru the least amount of processing ergo OTA...

I will say that while I still say SNF has better audio the PQ on FOX was absolutely outstanding last night...Our local FOX does its 10 o'clock news in HD and it looked SD in comparison to the game...Pretty damn sad if you ask me since both were 'live' feeds...The AQ was nothing to sneeze at but I think the reason it sounded so different from what we are used to is because of the size and acoustics of the new Cowboys stadium...I'll have to hear SNF in that statdium to be able to comment with any authority regarding that presumption though...

Odd that there have been no reports of shaking from SD cable users I think...I can't imagine why all the cable boxes all over the country were the only ones exhibiting issues...
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