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post #31 of 90
Right now there's 2 reasons being floated on why Stern is NOT on the Iphone App.

1) because his commitment with On Demand.. IMO that's hogwash, Sirius paid him over 500 mil, he does his show from Sirius, Sirius is his boss. I would hope that when Sirius wrote up that 500 mil contract they put in there that they, and Stern own the rights to his show. No one else.

2) to put his show on the app he wants more money from Sirius..IMO that's not going to happen. SXM doesn't have much money to throw around these days, especially since they already paid him 500 mil.

Take you pick on which one is true. Or who knows, maybe there's a #3....
post #32 of 90
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Originally Posted by barbie845 View Post

Right now there's 2 reasons being floated on why Stern is NOT on the Iphone App.

1) because his commitment with On Demand.. IMO that's hogwash, Sirius paid him over 500 mil, he does his show from Sirius, Sirius is his boss. I would hope that when Sirius wrote up that 500 mil contract they put in there that they, and Stern own the rights to his show. No one else.

2) to put his show on the app he wants more money from Sirius..IMO that's not going to happen. SXM doesn't have much money to throw around these days, especially since they already paid him 500 mil.

Take you pick on which one is true. Or who knows, maybe there's a #3....

No. 1 and 2, with it being most likely 2 with a sprinkle of 1, the real cause.

I don't think Sirius either has a little piece, or has a big piece, of the On Demand stuff. Most of that money is going to Howard, which is a good indication of the app problem, which I don't think matters anyway.

There are tons of places to get pirated streams of his show online(I don't know of them, but I am sure if you PM the right person here, they will lead you too it), and just do it that way.

Anyway, Howie is back on Vacation this week, after working an exhausting 12 days after a 2 week vacation at the beginning of July.
post #33 of 90
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He is always on vacation. For the people that have a windows mobile 6.1 phone. Download the skyfire browser and you can listen to him through the sirius website.
post #34 of 90
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Originally Posted by STEELERSRULE View Post

No. 1 and 2, with it being most likely 2 with a sprinkle of 1, the real cause.

I don't think Sirius either has a little piece, or has a big piece, of the On Demand stuff. Most of that money is going to Howard, which is a good indication of the app problem, which I don't think matters anyway.

There are tons of places to get pirated streams of his show online(I don't know of them, but I am sure if you PM the right person here, they will lead you too it), and just do it that way.

Anyway, Howie is back on Vacation this week, after working an exhausting 12days after a 2 week vacation at the beginning of July.


Mike Francesa from mike and the mad dog has been on vacation for the past month it seems.
post #35 of 90
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Mike Francesa from mike and the mad dog has been on vacation for the past month it seems.

No more Mad Dog..And what that has to do with Stern is beyond me..

But anyway quite honestly WFAN seems much better when Francesa is on vaca. I don't know, maybe it's just me but the guy was annoying with he had a partner, Russo, now that he's alone he unbearable.
post #36 of 90
Russo seems to be on vacation every time I want to listen to him. what is it with these guys getting these outrageous vacations?
post #37 of 90
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Mike Francesa from mike and the mad dog has been on vacation for the past month it seems.

Is he really Merc? I don't live in NJ anymore, but I am surprised he is not doing anything. I am also surprised that he did not go out and get another co-host since , too me, ALL of Mike Francesa is just WAY TOO MUCH for a talk radio show. The guy is one of the most arrogant A-holes in the business, and has zero right to be.

So he guessed Seton Hall would go to the NCAA finals back in 1989? Big deal.

Anyway, about Mad Dog. I know the US Open tennis tournament is coming up and he ALWAYS used to take those two weeks off when he was with Mike. No matter what, he was there. At least, it was always that way when I lived in NJ.

He may have called in with an update, but mainly it was Mike, and that was it for the 2 weeks of the US Open in Flushing, NY. But they were usually back together after that because football season was about too begin, and the pennant races were heating.

Can't explain why he is not on his channel now(Russo). Maybe after that meltdown where he "fired" everybody? Oh wait, maybe he is there now. When the US Open begins, expect him not to be. Guy is a HUGE tennis fan.
post #38 of 90
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Originally Posted by STEELERSRULE View Post

Is he really Merc? I don't live in NJ anymore, but I am surprised he is not doing anything. I am also surprised that he did not go out and get another co-host since , too me, ALL of Mike Francesa is just WAY TOO MUCH for a talk radio show. The guy is one of the most arrogant A-holes in the business, and has zero right to be.

So he guessed Seton Hall would go to the NCAA finals back in 1989? Big deal.

Anyway, about Mad Dog. I know the US Open tennis tournament is coming up and he ALWAYS used to take those two weeks off when he was with Mike. No matter what, he was there. At least, it was always that way when I lived in NJ.

He may have called in with an update, but mainly it was Mike, and that was it for the 2 weeks of the US Open in Flushing, NY. But they were usually back together after that because football season was about too begin, and the pennant races were heating.

Can't explain why he is not on his channel now(Russo). Maybe after that meltdown where he "fired" everybody? Oh wait, maybe he is there now. When the US Open begins, expect him not to be. Guy is a HUGE tennis fan.

Oh? I haven't listened to Russo much lately. He fired everyone? What happened?

Actually I always liked Russo more. He was willing to admit he was wrong once in awhile. On the other hand Francesa was never wrong, nor will he ever be wrong.

BTW I honestly think Francesa didn't get another co-host because no one would work with him. Especially anyone at WFAN since they know him so well.
post #39 of 90
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Originally Posted by Davird_Jr View Post

Russo seems to be on vacation every time I want to listen to him. what is it with these guys getting these outrageous vacations?

Stern has always had alot of vacation time even more now with Sirius and with Fridays off. I think Most radio "talent" takes time off a couple of times in the summer so it seems like a lot. I don't begrudge them their time off, If i could do it like them I would but It seems excessive in Sterns case.IMO
post #40 of 90
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Originally Posted by barbie845 View Post

Oh? I haven't listened to Russo much lately. He fired everyone? What happened?

Actually I always liked Russo more. He was willing to admit he was wrong once in awhile. On the other hand Francesa was never wrong, nor will he ever be wrong.

BTW I honestly think Francesa didn't get another co-host because no one would work with him. Especially anyone at WFAN since they know him so well.

I read he freaked out and fired everyone because of his channel coming in at 125th place in some most listened to rating type thing for sirius . I guess that was money well spent on Sirius's part .
post #41 of 90
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Originally Posted by fuddvd View Post

Stern has always had alot of vacation time even more now with Sirius and with Fridays off. I think Most radio "talent" takes time off a couple of times in the summer so it seems like a lot. I don't begrudge them their time off, If i could do it like them I would but It seems excessive in Sterns case.IMO

Vacations are not the problem, the lack of any real programing when there gone is though . History of THSS part 1 & 2 over and over or the best of the best of the best of specials are so lazy . It is almost like they don't know it is the 21st century and we have the ability to record things . Spin Sabian has alway said the channels are a work in progress , it has been 4 yrs and the only progress so far is they now have an fm radio show on in the afternoons . Oh wait i forgot that underdog lady did 1 show . Viva la revolution !
post #42 of 90
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Originally Posted by TomCat View Post

Assuming Howard does not re-sign, and it is likely he will in some form, the library of Stern shows is some 25 years deep. There is enough content in the can to carry both 100 and 101 until the end of time. IOW, I think the "Stern Era" will never end.

Will it be as good without fresh shows? Certainly not, but even a mediocre steak dinner is still a steak dinner, even if it's not a porterhouse. I also think the channels will suffer without Howard's sage guidance. I think they will start to do "wrap up" shows of the old shows, sort of an archaeological history rather than a daily wrap up, however, which would be a good move.

This means a lot of either live or taped Stern personalities to wrap around the old content. Stern devotees will love it. Folks probably will never get so tired of old Stern shows that the channels disappear (maybe one will) but when you create something as profound and as seminal as Howard has over the last 3 decades, it can live forever, just like Frank Lloyd Wright lives on in virtually every building designed even today and probably always will, and all contemporary jazz has roots in Miles Davis and probably always will.

"Era" is probably a misnomer, as that denotes a beginning and ending. "Milestone" is more appropriate, as that denotes a point in time when something begins but does not imply an ending.

And, BTW, there is a widely-held school of thought that SR would be gone already without Howard's influence. The things that handcuff SR are its poor audio quality for music, its being split in two at the outset then joined back together in the merger as some sort of two-headed beast that is technologically incompatible with itself, and in particular the fact that SR has to pay royalties that terrestrial radio does not. Even that playing field and bring out a dual radio, and SR will begin to thrive, with or without Howard.

And it is not going away, for the simple reason that it has lots of paying subscribers, and more of them than HBO or Showtime or DirecTV or anyone else other than ComCast cable. No one could ever find a justification to end the flow of cash, which is $3.6 BILLION with a B, annually, just counting subscriber fees and not even counting ad sales, which is also significant. The 5 major networks don't make that kind of scratch combined (and they have NO subscribers). They will soon raise rates 12%, and far less than 12% of subs will abandon ship because of it, meaning they will gross even more revenue in 2010.

I just posted in another thread SXM 2nd quarter results which showed $500+ mil in revenues. Times 4 is alittle over $2 to 2.3 bil per year, not 3.6..And that $2+ bil is INCLUDING ad revenue. So where did you get your $3.6 bil figure?
post #43 of 90
I'm a huge Stern fan, but I can't stand listening to any repeat that includes Jackie Martling. Way, way way too dated for me. That guy was not (and is not) funny in any way shape ore form.

The show has come so far over the last 5 years. Adding Artie to replace Jackie made that seat relevant again. Adding Sal and Richard was a huge improvement over Stuttering John, as well. John never came up with any bits for the show. Sal and Richard are always coming up with stuff that makes me laugh. Adding the Howard 100 news team really adds a funny angle, too.

Honestly, the two biggest anchors now are the two mainstays - Robin and Fred. Robin's News segment is so over-the-top liberal it's ridiculous. One day they're fleeing terestrial radio to avoid government interference, then the next they're in the news segment praising Obama for insisting that GM fire their CEO. So it's not ok for the government to try to fire Stern, but it's ok for the government to try to fire other people. Got it.

Anyway, I don't listen to pre-Artie repeats as the humor is way too dated. I can't imagine many people do.
post #44 of 90
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Thats how I feel Kevin. Your so right about the repeat shows that they suck. Thats why Im canceling when Stern leaves. I was trying to cancel my subsrciption yesterday to see if I get a better deal and they did. They offered me a deal I could not pass up 54.00 for a whole year. Im just wondering whats going to happen in the future for the Siriusxm.
post #45 of 90
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Originally Posted by Auditor_Kevin View Post

I'm a huge Stern fan, but I can't stand listening to any repeat that includes Jackie Martling. Way, way way too dated for me. That guy was not (and is not) funny in any way shape ore form.

The show has come so far over the last 5 years. Adding Artie to replace Jackie made that seat relevant again. Adding Sal and Richard was a huge improvement over Stuttering John, as well. John never came up with any bits for the show. Sal and Richard are always coming up with stuff that makes me laugh.

Anyway, I don't listen to pre-Artie repeats as the humor is way too dated. I can't imagine many people do.

I agree on repeats being dated for the most part,BUT Jackie wrote A LOT of howards funny lines for him. Now that Writing is done by Benji and some by Artie. I also miss Jackie's inappropriate laughing weather or not It's Fred doing a sound bite.
Stuttering John was also a big contributor to the show in both bits and writing.
Some would say the "golden age" of Howard Stern was before Artie arriving and "Hamptons" Howard meeting/marring Beth,and Also before stuttering john and Jackie leaving. I still like listening, It's just a different show than before but not better IMO.
post #46 of 90
in the end is anyone going to miss joan rivers and brooke hogan in the studio over and over ? Or the same phoney phone calls played as bumpers everyday ? In the end there might be alittle noise about him leaving but that will probably die quickly . Just like Brooke hogan's Cd sales after her whirl wind promotion tour on Howard and Bubba's shows .
post #47 of 90
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Originally Posted by HankBmore View Post

in the end is anyone going to miss joan rivers and brooke hogan in the studio over and over ? Or the same phoney phone calls played as bumpers everyday ? In the end there might be alittle noise about him leaving but that will probably die quickly . Just like Brooke hogan's Cd sales after her whirl wind promotion tour on Howard and Bubba's shows .



You had to pick a day when Joan Rivers was in the studio again? Man, was that painful!
post #48 of 90
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Originally Posted by ti-triodes View Post

you had to pick a day when joan rivers was in the studio again? Man, was that painful!

+1
post #49 of 90
It was just hard to listen to . Sad .
post #50 of 90
It's hard for Stern to get good guests because he asks great questions.

"Tell me about your new project."

is substituted with"

"Have you ever tried anal?"

Great for me.........not great for the pretty faces doing their publicity tours for their new movie/TV show/CD.
post #51 of 90
Howard asks those same questions over and over to guests he has had on over and over . I think the old fella is senile and may have dementia .
post #52 of 90
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Originally Posted by ti-triodes View Post

You had to pick a day when Joan Rivers was in the studio again? Man, was that painful!

Yeah, I've got to admit, ENOUGH of Joan Rivers. She has to have been in at 3-4 times over the last 3-4 months. WAY too much of her. Time to cut her off.

More George Takei, Gilbert Gottfreid, and William Shatner.

Or more Eric the Midget, Riley Martin(that was HILARIOUS this week), Jeff the Drunk, and other wack packers completely F'ing up, or continuing to destroy any hope of a future.

Makes me feel better that I am on solid ground, and don't posses the future that these idiots have, which is totally bleak.
post #53 of 90
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Repeated guests and phony phone calls must be a sign that he is going to retire next year.
post #54 of 90
It does seem like he has lost his passion for radio,can't say I blame him after 30+ years of the same old thing. I wish him well in his golden years in the Hamptons.
post #55 of 90
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Originally Posted by fuddvd View Post

It does seem like he has lost his passion for radio,can't say I blame him after 30+ years of the same old thing. I wish him well in his golden years in the Hamptons.

The only thing I can blame him for is losing the passion for his show 2 years in and still running promo's for the " revolution " and lying about how good an Fm replay on his channels is . Notice he has not mentioned Bubba since then
post #56 of 90
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Originally Posted by HankBmore View Post

The only thing I can blame him for is losing the passion for his show 2 years in and still running promo's for the " revolution " and lying about how good an Fm replay on his channels is . Notice he has not mentioned Bubba since then

I can't argue with you there.
post #57 of 90
I've had Sirius for about 16 months now. Stern just recycles the same B list guests on a 3 month basis. How many times has Joan Rivers, Jim Breuer, Charlie Murphy, Perez Hilton been on in the last year? At least 3 each I would bet. That's ridiculous.

As for the old Stern content, they have 25 years of tapes, yet they play the same material over and over when they do the old stuff. Much of that material is dated because the content is only pertinent to the events happening at that time in the news etc.
post #58 of 90
It appears that the iphone app of sirius will now feature howard 100 and all the other channels
post #59 of 90
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Originally Posted by jamieva View Post

I've had Sirius for about 16 months now. Stern just recycles the same B list guests on a 3 month basis. How many times has Joan Rivers, Jim Breuer, Charlie Murphy, Perez Hilton been on in the last year? At least 3 each I would bet. That's ridiculous.

As for the old Stern content, they have 25 years of tapes, yet they play the same material over and over when they do the old stuff. Much of that material is dated because the content is only pertinent to the events happening at that time in the news etc.

I don't know if I would pay to listen to the old Howard stuff. But it is nice to hear him from back when he had some energy and cared about what he was doing. Another week of vacation this week but it was interesting to hear the younger Howard. News items and things aren't relevant to what is going on today, but at least you could tell he was trying and motivated! He just doesn't have the same energy or care as much about the show now as he did 15 years ago. I would rather he leave and not become the next Imus.
post #60 of 90
I'd rather he either stay at 4 days a week or not come back at all. I get the feeling he will come back but even in a more reduced role as far as live shows. Sirius would certainly go along with it because they want the name recognition to try to keep subscirbers and bring new ones in. Problem is even with Stern they are losing more then they gain each quarter.
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