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post #181 of 771
Bought the 55LH40 today and it will be delivered on Friday. Yay.

Now that I still have time to change my mind... could the folks here confirm that it has 1:1 pixel mapping so I can use it as a monitor without overscan and underscan? I already went though the specifications and that option appears to be available, but just wanted to be extra sure.

So excited!
post #182 of 771
i just picked up the LG 55LH40 at Fry's for $1115 with in store pickup. http://www.frys.com/product/5898043


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Originally Posted by whoisthat View Post

Best Buy is having a sale on this LG 55LH40 again for $1496. If I take my 10% off coupon with me, maybe, just maybe, I can get it for about $1346.

On the other hand, I am also seriously tempted by this 60" Sharp LCD for $1999. It's about 20% more in screen area. Not sure if the premium is worth the price difference at this point.

May I also confirm from the folks here that for the LG 55", HDIM lip sync issue is only with cable box? That wouldn't be a big deal. Will I possibly experience lipsync issues if using a HDMI from my PC or a blu-ray player?

Thank you.

Sigh, decisions, decisions....
post #183 of 771
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Originally Posted by johnshew View Post

i just picked up the LG 55LH40 at Fry's for $1115 with in store pickup. http://www.frys.com/product/5898043

Pardon me, I should have mentioned Fry's is exactly where I got one too, though I ended up having to ask them to deliver it since I don't have a truck. Let's just say I have a compact car that can't possibly fit this monster. Thankfully it wasn't an insane charge, though I wish I had a truck.

Thanks for all the help I got here. Really keeping my fingers crossed to get a perfect unit!

Edit: Just saw this deal here. You can get this TV for $1198 shipped, especially for those who do not have to pay taxes or other fees... It could make a huge difference for some.
post #184 of 771
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Originally Posted by webazoid View Post

I tried the post about pressin menu on tv holding it and then pressing menu on remote. however, it doesn't bring up the password prompt for 0000. I have 42LH40 and built in sept 2009.

Yep, pressing menu on the tv and remote doesn't work with the newer models. LG will tell you that they will need to send a tech to do the install. Apparently the firmware fix varies according to which cable box you have.

Also sounds like the older versions of the LH40 family are being sent USB drives with the fix.

LG says they developed a software fix in August. Has anyone had the fix applied?
post #185 of 771
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Originally Posted by JimmyVee View Post

Yep, pressing menu on the tv and remote doesn't work with the newer models. LG will tell you that they will need to send a tech to do the install. Apparently the firmware fix varies according to which cable box you have.

Also sounds like the older versions of the LH40 family are being sent USB drives with the fix.

LG says they developed a software fix in August. Has anyone had the fix applied?

That's odd because my 55LH40 was built in August 2009 and pressing Menu on both at the same time DOES bring up the system menu. Are you sure you are doing it correctly? It took me a few times to figure it out.

Pretty much, just press them at the same time and hold. Make sure the remote is pointed at the sensor.

Anyway, the system menu doesn't fix the problem. Your better off switching your cable box to PCM Audio (in the HDMI settings menu). This corrects most of the problem but not all.
post #186 of 771
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Originally Posted by IAMCLP1 View Post

They did talk me into buying the Monster starter kit which has the Monster Power Supply Clear Power Stage 1, along with the Monster HDMI Cable. Also the 700HD HDMI Cable, and Fiber Optic 400DFO cable all which are Monster brands

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Originally Posted by IAMCLP1 View Post

$130 - It came with that Power Supply, HDMI Cable, Cleaning kit, and a setup wizard for the TV. The other 2 cables I got for $89 and $49... The sales rep told me with the PS3 and the 5.1 setups I was looking at I needed them also to make it sound the best along with the best picture quality -


OUCH! Make sure your cables are visible because their looks is the only thing that separates them from the rest of the pack. I got a 1.3 HDMI from Monoprice for ~$10. It seems like a good sturdy cable too.

When I was at Best Buy, the guy mentioned the $80 Monster HDMI cable. I told him "I'm in the know" about cables. He smiled and said he is required to recommend it but that its no different than the one that Comcast includes with their box.
post #187 of 771
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Originally Posted by Veccster View Post

That's odd because my 55LH40 was built in August 2009 and pressing Menu on both at the same time DOES bring up the system menu. Are you sure you are doing it correctly? It took me a few times to figure it out.

Pretty much, just press them at the same time and hold. Make sure the remote is pointed at the sensor.

Anyway, the system menu doesn't fix the problem. Your better off switching your cable box to PCM Audio (in the HDMI settings menu). This corrects most of the problem but not all.

My experience has been with the 42lh40. Looks like the 55lh40 may be different.

When I originally reported my problem to LG, they asked me to do push menu on the tv and remote. When that didn't work, they walked me through how to find the firmware version for the "newer" models.

I'll try switching the DVR to PCM audio. Hopefully that will work while I'm waiting on the software fix.

Don't know if it makes any difference, but LG is calling their solution for the audio sync a software fix not a firmware upgrade.
post #188 of 771
Well I made my third weekly call to LG to see where things are at with the audio fix.

Three weeks, three calls, same answer all three times: "we're working on a solution but there is no ETA".

Hypothetically speaking, if the infamous "fix" never materializes what is our recourse as buyers? I realize that is very "cart-before-the-horse" thinking, but I am not filled with confidence in LG at the moment.
post #189 of 771
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Originally Posted by whoisthat View Post

Could the folks here confirm that it has 1:1 pixel mapping so I can use it as a monitor without overscan and underscan? I already went though the specifications and that option appears to be available, but just wanted to be extra sure.

I hate to impose but could someone please confirm that it has true 1:1 pxel mapping through HDMI so it does not over-scan or under-scan? I need to use this a a computer monitor so this is ultra important.

If someone could please let me know whether such a feature exists or not for sure, I would appreciate it greatly.

Thank you!
post #190 of 771
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Originally Posted by whoisthat View Post

I hate to impose but could someone please confirm that it has true 1:1 pxel mapping through HDMI so it does not over-scan or under-scan? I need to use this a a computer monitor so this is ultra important.

If someone could please let me know whether such a feature exists or not for sure, I would appreciate it greatly.

Thank you!

If you could explain what that is, I would check for you


If it matters, I frequently hook my laptop up to my 55LH40 and it works as expected. I connect via HDMI. I got the wireless mouse but now I need a wireless keyboard. Sitting back in the recliner while searching the web...Lovin' it!
post #191 of 771
Is it possible to turn off the tru motion on the lcd? Only thing I am worried about is getting the fake cartoonish look while watching HD programming.
post #192 of 771
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Originally Posted by cdtech20059 View Post

Is it possible to turn off the tru motion on the lcd? Only thing I am worried about is getting the fake cartoonish look while watching HD programming.

Yes. It's under Advanced Picture Settings in the Picture menu. There are three settings: High, Low, and Off. Put it at whichever looks best to you.

I don't personally own one of these sets, but my best friend bought the 47LH40 a few months ago. Aside from the lip sync issues with these sets, I'm pretty impressed with the picture quality. Properly calibrated, the picture easily equals that of much more expensive sets. We also find the TruMotion annoying most of the time, but it has come in handy at times. He uses his for gaming and movies. I just read this entire thread, and thought I'd drop a line or two.
post #193 of 771
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Originally Posted by Veccster View Post

I have called LG 3 times and told them how upset I am. Though it's really not that bad with PCM audio, I just want it to be perfect.

Considering you paid good money for it, why would you settle for anything less than perfect? I haven't seen any other LCDs with this issue, so demand that they remedy the problem.
post #194 of 771
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Originally Posted by -Fluffy65- View Post

Considering you paid good money for it, why would you settle for anything less than perfect? I haven't seen any other LCDs with this issue, so demand that they remedy the problem.

It's typical for members of a forum like this to get so worked up about an issue, they don't enjoy their purchase. And others will let great deals pass them up because they read about these HORRIBLE stories that people report.

Honestly, I have been watching with PCM audio for the past couple weeks and there were only 1 or 2 shows that were noticeably out of sync. I only listen through my 5.1 surround sound system and run the sound straight from the Comcast box to my Onkyo receiver. Its really not as bad as some people report.

I'm not settling...I'm waiting for LG to show at my door to fix the problem. In the meantime, I am going to enjoy this TV and not let the lack of perfection bother me. The picture quality on this TV is AWESOME. And that is compared to a Sammy 550 I just bought for my parents.



Oh, and I only paid $1250 and I think that is a smoking good deal. If I had paid $1600+, I probably would have returned it
post #195 of 771
First post here..just going to add some more info on this TV and questions.

If I have trumotion off, does that mean I'm not taking the advantage of 120hz at all? Any benefits over 60hz if I always have trumotion off? I have it off because it just doesn't look good or natural to me..


Note that I only use this TV for PC and the stock setting doesn't look good or the color is way different than my previous monitor (a 25 inch no brand) so I had to tweak it for long time for it to look good.

Also if I have the "INPUT LABEL" set to "PC" it grays out many options under "expert control" including trumotion - is this normal? Should I not even bother setting the input label to "PC"? Do I get better pictures with pc input label if I plan to use this for pc only?
post #196 of 771
I just received my new 42LH41 i think its same the 42LH40 but it comes with the firm: 4.30.1 , the problem is i cant get into services menu by holding menu+menu nor by enter+enter, and i really need to activate the Divx usb option, do you have any idea how to resolve this matter?
post #197 of 771
Please help me out.. I don't want to be flamed. I have doing some research for my brother who is in the market for a tv. Right now we are looking at 2 very different tv's for him
LG 47LH50 and Panasonic tc-p46s1. I know they are 2 different tv's (LCD and Plasma) but they are priced within a couple of dollars right now.. (799 vs 787) I dont want to start a new thread so I am asking here thanks
post #198 of 771
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Originally Posted by blur510 View Post

Please help me out.. I don't want to be flamed. I have doing some research for my brother who is in the market for a tv. Right now we are looking at 2 very different tv's for him
LG 47LH50 and Panasonic tc-p46s1. I know they are 2 different tv's (LCD and Plasma) but they are priced within a couple of dollars right now.. (799 vs 787) I dont want to start a new thread so I am asking here thanks

Before I, or anyone else can recommend anything here, we need to know the viewing distance (how far he'll be sitting from the TV), and what kind of room he'll be watching it in. TV placement? Windows? Lighter, darker? Basement? Last question, what will he watch on it? HD programming, Blu-Ray movies, video games, etc? The answers to these questions will be critical in which set he goes for.
post #199 of 771
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Originally Posted by -Fluffy65- View Post

Before I, or anyone else can recommend anything here, we need to know the viewing distance (how far he'll be sitting from the TV), and what kind of room he'll be watching it in. TV placement? Windows? Lighter, darker? Basement? Last question, what will he watch on it? HD programming, Blu-Ray movies, video games, etc? The answers to these questions will be critical in which set he goes for.

ok thanks
it will be in his bedroom there is 1 window on the on the opposite wall but is not directly in front of his tv. He will be watching a mixture of HD and SD.. I am guessing mostly HD.. He has a PS3for gaming and Bluray movies . ohh and he will be sitting about 7-10 feet away.
post #200 of 771
I saw the lip sync issue and my build is from sep 2009 (so no menu trick for me)... will be calling LG and will be complaining to the BBB if there is not a timely fix
post #201 of 771
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Originally Posted by blur510 View Post

ok thanks
it will be in his bedroom there is 1 window on the on the opposite wall but is not directly in front of his tv. He will be watching a mixture of HD and SD.. I am guessing mostly HD.. He has a PS3for gaming and Bluray movies . ohh and he will be sitting about 7-10 feet away.

Ok. Here's my breakdown:

With the window on the opposite wall, it'd be nice if he had something to block most of the light at times, as glare might be an issue here. With the S1's new anti-glare screen coating, it is much less prone to annoying glare than previous plasma sets, but light sources behind you, even off to the sides might still be an issue if you enjoy watching in dark rooms. Usually, LCDs are less prone to glare, but the H40 has a rather shiny screen surface for an LCD, and will be just as annoying when compared to the S1. Neither set has an advantage with potential glare.

The average lighting conditions of the room come into play here as well. LCDs look better in rooms with more ambient light, and plasmas are better in darker environments. Advantage depends on his preferred lighting conditions. LCD = Light, Plasma = Dark.

When it comes to TV programming, he'll probably want to watch as much HD as possible, because SD looks equally crappy on both sets. Usually, HDTV sets make SD look even worse, because you see how much detail is truly lacking. No advantage for either set here either.

If he's going to be gaming, both sets are excellent. The plasma will offer much less motion blur than the LCD here, but games should be avoided for the first 100 hours or so, as static images might display temporary Image Retention on the screen before the display is burned/broken in. Nothing to worry about here, just thought I'd mention it. The plasma has the advantage based on motion blur.

The biggest difference between these two sets, and one I find quite important, is their performance with motion blur. The H40's TruMotion 120hz, is often far more annoying that useful. The set always runs at 120hz, but the TruMotion is an additional setting that over-amps the video processing. When turned on, it destroys depth perception, gives moving objects a halo effect (making them almost look like cardboard cutouts), and makes movement jerky. Every time the set is turned on, TruMotion is on Max by default, and you have to turn it back off, every time. The S1 has the 600hz sub-field drive, which has proven to offer the most superior motion performance of any sets out today. The display panel as a whole is still refreshed at 60hz (60 times per second), but the pixels/plasma tubes are flashed 10 times every millisecond, equating to faster response time, and less perceived blur. Advantage here goes to the S1.

Based on these differences, he should be able to decide which one fits his needs the best.
post #202 of 771
Overnight, I ordered the 42LH40 from Amazon for $740 after having read many "it's not perfect, but it's really impressive for the price" reviews all over the place. After reading this thread, I'm wondering if this was a mistake.

I have a 60" SXRD in the entertainment room, but decided it was time to put something in my small home office (about 13'x13') to entertain me in there. General use will be standard def over a Comcast cable box, possibly HD over Comcast and probably streaming terabytes of content on my hard drives -- but mostly, it'll be used as a second gaming system (360, PS3 mostly).

I wanted to keep the price down somewhat, considering it isn't my primary television and after spending countless hours reading on televisions in that range, I just said "F-it, I'm pulling the trigger or else I'll be researching this for months"... As I'm sure everyone else knows from experience, the internet is full of reasons to dislike each and every device out there, but getting advice on what is good is far more rare.

Anyway, it sounds like it will more than suit my purpose and I shouldn't be too disappointed, but I know the 60hz version is far cheaper and by reports on here, it sounds like the 120hz is crap and pointless (or is it just the TruMotion that is crap?). Did I just blow $200 or $300 extra on a couple features that I will never want to or be able to use? I know that the last time I was doing heavy research on a new set to buy, the whole buzz was about "real 120hz is the way to go from now on!". Especially for gaming (which I'll be doing a lot of on it).

I know it sounds like I'm just looking for the true A/V geeks (which I aspire to be, but have too much Unix crap in my head to make room for some times) to pat me on the head and say "you didn't make a stupid purchase -- good boy", but . . . well, I guess that's what I'm doing.

Also, if anyone has advice on a good audio system to get for this television, I'd appreciate it. My primary system has a Denon 3806 with a full line of B&W 800's and I'm definitely not looking to replicate that kind of expense for my second system. Like I say, this second setup is in a 13'x13' room in an apartment. I don't want 7.1, though I guess 5.1 would be useful - if cluttered (wires everywhere, hurrah!).

Is there a good all-inclusive audio setup that would be recommended for this system around perhaps the $500 mark? A soundbar would be wonderful for reducing the clutter and wires, but have they truly come far enough to produce an enjoyable surround/5.1 experience? Or at least, without breaking the bank?

As always when I turn to AVS for my true-guidance, I am most grateful to all of you.
post #203 of 771
Thank you.. very useful info... He ended up buying the the LG 47LH50 for 799. He likes it a lot.. i copied the setting from CNET but upped the brightness because my brother liked it brighter. The picture is good and the netcast is aslo pretty good.
post #204 of 771
If I run all my audio to my receiver, will I get any lip syncing issues?
post #205 of 771
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Originally Posted by jjimenez View Post

If I run all my audio to my receiver, will I get any lip syncing issues?

No lip sync issues if you run directly from the cable box to the receiver. There are also no lip sync issues if you connect the LH40 directly to coax.

I have the cable audio signal feeding into my receiver from both the DVR and the LH40. Audio directly from the DVR to the receiver has no audio sync issues. There are lip sync issues if I use the audio from the LH40's optical port.

Using a higher speed HDMI cable does not alleviate the lip sync issue.
post #206 of 771
Allright awesome, I should be fine using my PS3, xbox360 and pc. I am going to go optical out on all 3, going to my receiver, then HDMI running to the tv.
post #207 of 771
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Originally Posted by Veccster View Post

If you could explain what that is, I would check for you


If it matters, I frequently hook my laptop up to my 55LH40 and it works as expected. I connect via HDMI. I got the wireless mouse but now I need a wireless keyboard. Sitting back in the recliner while searching the web...Lovin' it!

Now that I have my unit (and I did review the manual before purchase), it is indeed available as "Just Scan" which just means no overscan so it is 1:1 mapping pixel to pixel, which is important for using it as a monitor.
post #208 of 771
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Originally Posted by whoisthat View Post

Now that I have my unit (and I did review the manual before purchase), it is indeed available as "Just Scan" which just means no overscan so it is 1:1 mapping pixel to pixel, which is important for using it as a monitor.


I have it hooked up to my PC using 16:9 and it looks perfect. When I set my HDMI 4 to label "PC", the "Just Scan" option just greys out anyway.
post #209 of 771
Hey guys, Iv been reading this thread for like a week and decided to buy one despite what people have been saying about the audio sync issue. I bought the 42LH40 from best buy.It seems to be an amazing set thus far. I have noticed on may 2 channels the voices are slightly out of sync(not always), but not enough to even complain about.
Also how do I check my firmware version? I cant find it in the settings menu or anything. I may put a service call in to get the small problem fixed, but im going to let it ride a week or so and see how it preforms.
Also I changed my settings to the one on the Home theater page and it just seems to dark. Just a thought...
post #210 of 771
Warning dont use the europe firmware lh/lg/lf2000/3000 onto USA/CA/ASIA models this wil brick you tv.

Also USA/CA/ASIA cannot play mkv from usb because they use other cassis.
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