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post #331 of 769
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Originally Posted by e_rock View Post

i'm also trying to track down more information on this problem. if anyone who owns this lcd has used it with blueray 1080p/24 content please post your results. this is pretty much the only reason i'm still on the fence in regards to my purchase.

I have a Panasonic bd60 hooked up to my 42lh40. Not aware of any issues. The BD60 does a nice job with 24p for Bluray and standard DVD's. Any particular issues that need verified?
post #332 of 769
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Originally Posted by JimmyVee View Post

I have a Panasonic bd60 hooked up to my 42lh40. Not aware of any issues. The BD60 does a nice job with 24p for Bluray and standard DVD's. Any particular issues that need verified?

yeah, the below is from cnet's review of the lh50 (same panel as the lh40 from everything i've read)

"Unlike most 120Hz displays, the LG LH50 failed to properly handle 1080p/24 sources. With Real Cinema engaged (regardless of dejudder setting), 1080p/24 material would catch and stutter randomly, often, and noticeably enough to render the material unwatchable in our opinion."

maybe this was just a problem with the early sets, or was fixed with a firmware update?

are you able to use your bluray player with 24p content and the real cinema engaged without stuttering?
post #333 of 769
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Originally Posted by e_rock View Post

i'm also trying to track down more information on this problem. if anyone who owns this lcd has used it with blueray 1080p/24 content please post your results. this is pretty much the only reason i'm still on the fence in regards to my purchase.

I havent seen it. I have watched a dozen or so blu rays on the new LH50 and have not had any issues with 1080P/24f playback whatsoever.
post #334 of 769
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Originally Posted by e_rock View Post

yeah, the below is from cnet's review of the lh50 (same panel as the lh40 from everything i've read)

"Unlike most 120Hz displays, the LG LH50 failed to properly handle 1080p/24 sources. With Real Cinema engaged (regardless of dejudder setting), 1080p/24 material would catch and stutter randomly, often, and noticeably enough to render the material unwatchable in our opinion."

maybe this was just a problem with the early sets, or was fixed with a firmware update?

are you able to use your bluray player with 24p content and the real cinema engaged without stuttering?

I have seen no issues with 24p engaged for Bluray or standard DVDs.
post #335 of 769
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Originally Posted by BigEyeFish View Post

I havent seen it. I have watched a dozen or so blu rays on the new LH50 and have not had any issues with 1080P/24f playback whatsoever.

awesome!

do you have the real cinema mode engaged?
post #336 of 769
Just last Friday I sent LG (from their website) a email asking about issues with the lip sync and what to look out for in order to have the most up-to-date panel.

here was the response:

-----------Reply to Customer Enquiry------------
Hello

Thank you for contacting LG Customer service. We are here to help provide you with the answers or guidance you need. If you require further assistance please submit a new request or contact customer service at 1-888-542-2623.

The firmware version 4.30.01 resolved this issue with the sound and has been factory updated on units with a serial number of 0910xxx onward.

Regards
LG Canada
post #337 of 769
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Originally Posted by cmarkmyers View Post


Gaming looked great through my Xbox with the VGA input (I don't have HDMI). The resolution was not perfect as it was compared to my Samsung but I attribute that to 9' seating distance. This TV may be too big for my room (I have the 55" model).

Is it advantageous to hook up 360 via VGA, i.e. does it reduce input lag?
post #338 of 769
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Originally Posted by e_rock View Post

awesome!

do you have the real cinema mode engaged?

Yes, the 24p Real Cinema option is turned on.

This is from Consumer Reports review of the 42LH40

"Very good film-mode operation (3:2 pulldown) effectively minimized jagged edges -- "jaggies" -- on our 1080i HD movie content. Our 1080i HD video clip with motion detail (de-interlacing test) was free of any visible jaggies, while the 480i SD video looked very good with just a hint of visible jaggies."

I think Real Cinema actually does a 5:5 pulldown, which better matches the 24p cadence.
post #339 of 769
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Originally Posted by cbales24 View Post

Is it advantageous to hook up 360 via VGA, i.e. does it reduce input lag?

Bump
post #340 of 769
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Originally Posted by cbales24 View Post

Bump

I kind of have the same question so I would be interesting in hearing others opinions on this as well. I thought that I had read somewhere that the PC input bypassed all processing which in "theory" would reduce input lag.
post #341 of 769
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Originally Posted by e_rock View Post

yeah, the below is from cnet's review of the lh50 (same panel as the lh40 from everything i've read)

"Unlike most 120Hz displays, the LG LH50 failed to properly handle 1080p/24 sources. With Real Cinema engaged (regardless of dejudder setting), 1080p/24 material would catch and stutter randomly, often, and noticeably enough to render the material unwatchable in our opinion."

maybe this was just a problem with the early sets, or was fixed with a firmware update?

are you able to use your bluray player with 24p content and the real cinema engaged without stuttering?

When I get home this afternoon I will confirm the following for you:
  1. 24p Playback w/ Real Cinema on
  2. 24p Playback w/ Real Cinema off
  3. 24p Playback w/ Real Cinema on (various dejudder settings)

I know that my Panasonic BD60 has the most recent firmware version, 2.20 and I will double check on my TV's (55LH40) firmware version as well.

Let me know if you need me to test any other scenarios and I will do my best.
post #342 of 769
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Originally Posted by tomdahlberg View Post

When I get home this afternoon I will confirm the following for you:
  1. 24p Playback w/ Real Cinema on
  2. 24p Playback w/ Real Cinema off
  3. 24p Playback w/ Real Cinema on (various dejudder settings)

I know that my Panasonic BD60 has the most recent firmware version, 2.20 and I will double check on my TV's (55LH40) firmware version as well.

Let me know if you need me to test any other scenarios and I will do my best.

WOW! that would be totally awesome. much appreciated!
post #343 of 769
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Originally Posted by e_rock View Post

WOW! that would be totally awesome. much appreciated!

That would be great. Getting ready to pick one up.
post #344 of 769
I ran through those tests and according to my eyes everything seemed to be just perfect!

There may be someone out there that disagrees or uses some fancy pants programs to determine the frame rate in correlation with the rotation of the earth but both myself and my roommate tried to find playback flaws and we couldn't.
  • 24p Playback w/ Real Cinema on
    Perfect
  • 24p Playback w/ Real Cinema off
    Perfect
  • 24p Playback w/ Real Cinema on (various dejudder settings)
    Perfect

============================================================ ======================================================

If I were to review the 55LH40 it's overall score would be a [B/B+]:
  • PQ [B+] a step behind in "punch" and black levels when I compared to other (more expensive) sets.
  • Sound [B] not bad at all, better than a lot of TV's but can be a bit "tinny" at times.
  • Features [B+] It turns on and off, has required inputs and decent menu system.
  • Value [A-] great bang for the buck if you ask me.
  • Style [B+] not as thin as some TV's but it has a nice profile if that matters and the semi-transparent edging would look cool with some back lighting.
  • Remote [C+] some misplaced buttons, input button near power button, I've accidentally shut off the TV when trying to swap inputs.
post #345 of 769
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Originally Posted by tomdahlberg View Post

I ran through those tests and according to my eyes everything seemed to be just perfect!

There may be someone out there that disagrees or uses some fancy pants programs to determine the frame rate in correlation with the rotation of the earth but both myself and my roommate tried to find playback flaws and we couldn't.
  • 24p Playback w/ Real Cinema on
    Perfect
  • 24p Playback w/ Real Cinema off
    Perfect
  • 24p Playback w/ Real Cinema on (various dejudder settings)
    Perfect

============================================================ ======================================================

If I were to review the 55LH40 it's overall score would be a [B/B+]:
  • PQ [B+] a step behind in "punch" and black levels when I compared to other (more expensive) sets.
  • Sound [B] not bad at all, better than a lot of TV's but can be a bit "tinny" at times.
  • Features [B+] It turns on and off, has required inputs and decent menu system.
  • Value [A-] great bang for the buck if you ask me.
  • Style [B+] not as thin as some TV's but it has a nice profile if that matters and the semi-transparent edging would look cool with some back lighting.
  • Remote [C+] some misplaced buttons, input button near power button, I've accidentally shut off the TV when trying to swap inputs.


thank you so much for the detailed feedback. i really really appreciate it!

still trying to decide between the LH40 and the LH50, but my understanding is that they are the same panel just with our without the netflix streaming stuff.
post #346 of 769
I agree with the review above but I am going to give the TV an A-.

This is because I do not use the TV speakers (I have a 5.1 system) and I rarely use the remote (Comcast remote switches between inputs). I also only paid $1150 for the 55LH40 and that is a great value.

The frame of the TV is pretty slick but I have noticed that the frame is not perfectly flat. It caught my eye that the reflection of the ceiling lights showed depressions in the frame. You would not see it looking directly at it but I saw it from certain angles. No biggie...just nit-picking.
post #347 of 769
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Originally Posted by Veccster View Post

I agree with the review above but I am going to give the TV an A-.

This is because I do not use the TV speakers (I have a 5.1 system) and I rarely use the remote (Comcast remote switches between inputs). I also only paid $1150 for the 55LH40 and that is a great value.

The frame of the TV is pretty slick but I have noticed that the frame is not perfectly flat. It caught my eye that the reflection of the ceiling lights showed depressions in the frame. You would not see it looking directly at it but I saw it from certain angles. No biggie...just nit-picking.

Yeah, my frame has a very, very slight wave right in the middle so when I look at it in the sunlight from the right angle I can see a slight indentation.

I don't disagree with your A- grade but I have to make the assumption that some people may be forced to use the built-in speakers. I also agree with your remote remark, I have a harmony but again, not everyone will so I am basing my grade on the assumption they will use the built in speakers and supplied remote
post #348 of 769
@ e_rock - I am pretty sure the xxLH40 and xxLH50 series are identical except for a few of those internet features. If you don't plan or care for the streaming stuff then I would go with whatever you can find a better deal on.
post #349 of 769
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Originally Posted by tomdahlberg View Post

@ e_rock - I am pretty sure the xxLH40 and xxLH50 series are identical except for a few of those internet features. If you don't plan or care for the streaming stuff then I would go with whatever you can find a better deal on.

...which is why I ordered the 42LH50 (amz:782) earlier this week, vs the 42LH40 (amz:766~782) ..having totally missed the 2009.11.26 42LH40 (amz:598).

Because my old DVD player lacks upconverting, I'd also ordered the Panasonic BD60 blu-ray (for its PQ performance with standard DVDs), instead of the LG BD370, because I was put off by the many user comments about abysmal LG customer service regarding BD370 issues [off-topic here: sorry]. I hope LG 'service' is accessible/responsive/etc on their TVs! Are they?

The BD60 (VieraCast/Amz.video) lacks LG's Netflix/YouTube access, so I figure the xxLH50 complements it, if/when I get into the network angle.

I'm a "shadow details" person, and my viewing positions are typically off-axis, so I'll find out soon enough if the xxLH40/50 is acceptable, or not. The Picture Wizard feature is really attractive (why don't all brands have that?!). Had to purchase online just to learn more, since AFAIK, no retailers in MSP stock xxLH40/50. Odd.]
post #350 of 769
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Originally Posted by TechBoi View Post

What did you pay and where? I'm LF a great online deal on this TV.

I paid what you got quoted for your LH30 ($499). It was a lucky price match I got.

Anyway, there is one thing that has been bugging me lately. Whenever I play video games or watching movies, I notice occasional these boxes (artifacts?) around the edges of fast moving objects. It only occurs when TruMotion is on. It sucks since I like the realism that 120Hz brings, but I hate the artifacts I'm noticing, so it's hard to decide whether I should keep it on or turn it off. I'm not sure if this is the motion blur that others are experiencing; I'm thinking that's not the case since everyone here sees it with TM off, I see it when TM is on.

I know firmware has addressed the lip sync issues, but has anyone else experienced any other improvements? In video quality perhaps?
post #351 of 769
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Originally Posted by vwbmw View Post

...which is why I ordered the 42LH50 (amz:782) earlier this week, vs the 42LH40 (amz:766~782) ..having totally missed the 2009.11.26 42LH40 (amz:598).

Because my old DVD player lacks upconverting, I'd also ordered the Panasonic BD60 blu-ray (for its PQ performance with standard DVDs), instead of the LG BD370, because I was put off by the many user comments about abysmal LG customer service regarding BD370 issues [off-topic here: sorry]. I hope LG 'service' is accessible/responsive/etc on their TVs! Are they?

The BD60 (VieraCast/Amz.video) lacks LG's Netflix/YouTube access, so I figure the xxLH50 complements it, if/when I get into the network angle.

I'm a "shadow details" person, and my viewing positions are typically off-axis, so I'll find out soon enough if the xxLH40/50 is acceptable, or not. The Picture Wizard feature is really attractive (why don't all brands have that?!). Had to purchase online just to learn more, since AFAIK, no retailers in MSP stock xxLH40/50. Odd.]

When I purchased my 42LH40 from HHGregg in October, they also had the 42LH50 in stock.

You should enjoy your BD60. The only complaint I have is that for non Bluray disks you have to manually select the 24p playback option.
post #352 of 769
Just picked this up yesterday. It looks great, but...input lag. Coming from a 30" 720p CRT, it was very noticeable on Halo 3. This was expected to some degree, but I had read that this TV handled input lag very well. If nothing else, this confirms that NO LCD is good enough for gaming.
post #353 of 769
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Originally Posted by cbales24 View Post

Just picked this up yesterday. It looks great, but...input lag. Coming from a 30" 720p CRT, it was very noticeable on Halo 3. This was expected to some degree, but I had read that this TV handled input lag very well. If nothing else, this confirms that NO LCD is good enough for gaming.

Are you using component/hdmi/vga?
post #354 of 769
360 was hooked up with HDMI with all enhancements off. Then I labeled the input as PC, which grayed out all the options, but it made no difference.
post #355 of 769
Hello guys. I have a LH40 series 42inch tv. My problem is that - Red/Blue text on black back ground is fuzzy . Perfectly clear text in windows (at sharpness 50 with minor or no edge enhancement).
I have my pc connected through Hdmi and I get that fuzzy text too and I would like to know how to fix that or improve it because on my 19" lcd monitor it looks perfect. Also, my build date of my 42lh40 is September 2009 and I have the newer firmware and I cant access the service menu like you can on the older firmware and Is there anyway to get in it because the fact that i dont know if i have a LGD panel drives me crazy@!@
Thanks and please someone help me
post #356 of 769
We were looking for a good replacement for our Toshiba 36" tube TV.

Best Buy got us a deal Saturday night for the 47LH40 with the LG BD370, an Insignia HDMI Cable and tax for under $1100 out the door. I was happy with that price.

Saturday, WOW Cable comes out to set up the HD DVR so we can take advantage of the system over Cable.

I hooked up the player to my USR 5430 Access point 801.1G I used to use for my xBox system, so I have access to all the online options and updates.

The only disappointment is that there is only digital optical audio out on the set, and none of my (older) sound system is compatible with it. It appears that my goal to set up a RocketFish Wireless HD Audio system would not work directly from this system either.

I have three questions at this point and haven't been able to find all the information here yet; there's a lot to read!

1) What are the optimum settings for what above described *Video* setup?

2) Is there a way to get the TOSlink adapted to a RCA system fairly inexpensively?

3) Does anyone know if the WOW DVR tuner connects to the TV by HDMI or Cable?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Sean
post #357 of 769
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Originally Posted by WhyPush View Post

We were looking for a good replacement for our Toshiba 36" tube TV.

Best Buy got us a deal Saturday night for the 47LH40 with the LG BD370, an Insignia HDMI Cable and tax for under $1100 out the door. I was happy with that price.

Saturday, WOW Cable comes out to set up the HD DVR so we can take advantage of the system over Cable.

I hooked up the player to my USR 5430 Access point 801.1G I used to use for my xBox system, so I have access to all the online options and updates.

The only disappointment is that there is only digital optical audio out on the set, and none of my (older) sound system is compatible with it. It appears that my goal to set up a RocketFish Wireless HD Audio system would not work directly from this system either.

I have three questions at this point and haven't been able to find all the information here yet; there's a lot to read!

1) What are the optimum settings for what above described *Video* setup?

2) Is there a way to get the TOSlink adapted to a RCA system fairly inexpensively?

3) Does anyone know if the WOW DVR tuner connects to the TV by HDMI or Cable?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Sean

I found myself stuck with the optical output as well, so I can help on that front. To still use RCA's, you have to get a DAC - they aren't exactly cheap.
http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=dig...rter&_osacat=0

Or, you can get this on amazon for fairly cheap. It has an optical input.

Or, you can just get a receiver that has optical in. This would be the highest quality route.

Hope this helps.

EDIT: Here is a better link for a DAC.
post #358 of 769
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Originally Posted by WhyPush View Post

We were looking for a good replacement for our Toshiba 36" tube TV.

Best Buy got us a deal Saturday night for the 47LH40 with the LG BD370, an Insignia HDMI Cable and tax for under $1100 out the door. I was happy with that price.

Saturday, WOW Cable comes out to set up the HD DVR so we can take advantage of the system over Cable.

I hooked up the player to my USR 5430 Access point 801.1G I used to use for my xBox system, so I have access to all the online options and updates.

The only disappointment is that there is only digital optical audio out on the set, and none of my (older) sound system is compatible with it. It appears that my goal to set up a RocketFish Wireless HD Audio system would not work directly from this system either.

I have three questions at this point and haven't been able to find all the information here yet; there's a lot to read!

1) What are the optimum settings for what above described *Video* setup?

2) Is there a way to get the TOSlink adapted to a RCA system fairly inexpensively?

3) Does anyone know if the WOW DVR tuner connects to the TV by HDMI or Cable?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Sean

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post #359 of 769
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Originally Posted by petemoss1976 View Post

I just bought an 55LH41 last night and got it home and was quite dissappointed. I didnt even know it was possible but apparently my set is defective after speaking with the LG support person on the phone.

I had bought an LG 50PS60 Plasma but returned it because of IR when playing PS3 or watching something with a ticker such as sportsnet or tsn.

Anyways I got the 55LH41 instead. I have a sony blu-ray player and a sony PS3 both were connected via HDMI to the plasma and both were set to 1080p. When I plugged in the LCD and connected both devices when I selected the input for the PS3 I got a no signal message on screen. Switched to the Bluray player and same thing. I reset my PS3 using the procedure to set it back to the default resolution on boot up and was able to see it on screen. I went manually through the display settings on the ps3 and as soon as I would select 1080p and proceed it would the signal again and no picture. I would then wait the 15 secs or so for it to auto-reset and I am able to watch all other modes including 1080i. This also happens on the Sony Blu-ray player. I called LG and walk through some troubleshooting with the support person and he came to the conclusion that the ports were defective because it would not display 1080p. I've never heard of anything like this before has anyone else had this issue? So my options are now to return and exchange this monster for another of the same set or have a service tech out. I'm not really a fan of getting a service tech in for something that out of the box to me would be DOA.

anyone ever see anything like this? To me it doesnt seem possible wouldnt the ports not work in any mode ie 1080i. My fear is I get a new one of the same model and it has the same issue. The guy at the store told me to double check my settings, which I have at least quadruple checked and like I said no issues when either device was connected to the plasma at 1080p.

I am having the same issue right now. I am now at my third set of the 55LH41. First set had dead pixels, second set had scratches all over the bezel (frame) and dead pixels, and third (current one) has major "flashlight" issues and doesn't work at all in 1080P/60 and works sometimes in 1080P/24. Going in tomorrow to get it replaced, hopefully i have better luck with the fourth set. This is the worst luck i have ever had. I was all for LG but this is changing the game...
post #360 of 769
^ what store did you purchase from?

Sounds like the quality issues are with their sets. Maybe they are not being handled or transported properly. And a set with scratches all over the bottom indicates a returned set.
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