Official LG xxLH40 Owners Thread - Page 23

Home theater mag indicated something about Dynamic contract control. The LG also has a Dynamic Contrast control. Medium setting of this control somewhat enhanced the LG's pop and shadow detail in dark scenes.

I also don't like video processing but I did like Dynamic Contrast at Low. Really did help with shadow detail.

Hello all, just picked up the 42lh40 and so far so good.
However checking the LG site they show two newer models with lower initial prices and similar specs.

They are the 42ld550 and 42ld520.

The newer sets have a slightly better contrast ratio and response time but I see no mention of a s-ips panel.

I'm thinking of returning the lh40 and waiting these out and wanted to know if anyone has thoughts or experience with the new models.

Thanks.

I've tried all 3 calibration data posted earlier and I like the CNET's best so far. I am also in an ever-tinkering mode because I think there gotta be an ideal setting given the level of PQ controls offered by this set. I tend to set dynamic contrast at medium when the room is bright, at low when not so bright, and off with Gamma at high when the room is dark.

I've been trying to live with the vertical banding, however, I recently noticed that my unit tends to render an excessive level of red/pink tone when the original subject isn't so red itself (with reference to my sRGB-calibrated CRT monitor). For example, deep orange becomes red while deep red becomes dark pink. Well, I happen know a thing or two about color space and the way my panel renders red color has me wonder if this S-IPS panel actually has a gamut as wide as the ProPhoto RGB! Obviously no way it does, as all the rest of colors (yellow, green, cyan, and blue) render normally just like my sRGB monitor does. It it had a ProPhoto RGB gamut then not only red, but the complete spectrum would have all jumped off the screen and made my eyes spin, lol.

Just want to confirm if any of you has noticed the phenomenon.

PS. Wiki: a comparison of chromaticities

Have you tried switching the color gamut in advanced settings? I prefer "wide" but I have no idea which setting is more accurate.
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Yes I have and I prefer to fix it on "standard" for better depth in color gradients. BTW, I forgot to add that the CNET's xxLH30 calibration has the least amount of aforementioned problem, whereas the xxLH50 calibration setting made the most pronounced red/pink tone. Though, I have to say that it has the cleanest white among all.

I had a firmware upgrade to 4.30 just like you, but I still had the lag problems. That was when they replaced the whole circuit board, which came with 4.52. I suspect there is a revision of the circuit board that cannot be upgraded to 4.52. If you call again and confirm that you are still having the lag problem, they will probably replace the circuit board. My tech told me that the circuit board replacement policy began on March 1st.

Also, does anyone have the LH40, an XBOX 360, and Guitar Hero? I would like to confirm that it is not somehow only my XBOX that is causing the 200ms lag.

I had a tech out yesterday for the firmware update and he told me he'd have to replace the board. Is that an easy replacement? I'm not sure I had a great deal of faith in this tech, so that's why I was wondering if the board replacement was a pretty simple operation.

I have an LH40, fw v4.52, and Rock Band on Wii. My video lag is 160ms. That is with Trumotion on low because the lyrics arent very sharp & difficult to read with it off.

Have you taken into account the use of wireless controllers/guitars etc?

Wireless controllers aren't reliable inputs on flat panels when dealing with lag.

Surely, they are something you might end up just having to deal with when calibrating if you want to be wireless, but you can't really measure input lag/latency for a set properly using any wireless controller/device, because you have no true method of calculating the lag. There is such a vast host of factors that can cause problems... interference of other wireless devices, range distances, etc that will cause the lag to fluctuate.

I remember my PS2 wireless guitars on my LCD fluctuating all over the place when I use to calibrate them. Can't really control that or compete with direct input (cable) interface controllers.

My 2 Cents

Well, the worst case scenario came true for me today. The techs who were unable to complete the firmware update on Monday came back today to try it again. They kept repeating that they were not trained on LG and were not authorized LG technicians, even though the service was arranged through LG. They tried the firmware update again and bricked my set. It won't turn on. When it's plugged in, the red standby light in the lower right corner of the TV comes on, but the TV won't switch on. There is simply no response to pressing the "On" button on the TV, or on the remote. I can't believe LG sent these idiots. I called LG after they left and now they have to send a technician to trouble shoot the problem and then fix it. What a bunch of Bozos.

Wow, that's unbelievable. Not just one idiot. A team.

Dr. Curly, Dr. Larry, Dr. Moe!

LOL! I had the TV plugged into a Monster power conditioner and they couldn't figure out what it was (no joke). They stared at it like a dog staring at a ferris wheel with his head cocked sideways. On Monday when the first tech from this company came, he pointed at my Jolida tube amp and said, "That's a nice old radio." I wouldn't hire these guys to change a lightbulb.

Anyone have **HDMI**, Guitar Hero, Xbox 360 (or PS3 I guess), and LH40?

i had a bad experience with one of the two LH40's i boughtthe 40" seams fine and has firmware4.XXX but the 32" i had in the room has i cant remember but it had the firmware version that was suppose to fix the lip sync issue. well after about 3 weks of use the 32" one showed its ugly face of the lip sync porblem. so i called LG about it and told them the problem. she asked my my tv's product number and i gace it to her and then she asked again and then said we dont show that product number
so i said well its whats ont he tv and ive looked at it 10 times! so i said ok just tell me what it the latest version of firmware for the LH40 series and she said i cant tell you unless i have the correct product number. so i told her its a shame you can thelp me so ill be taking this tv back to BB. which i did and got a 32" sony EX500 which was the same price and picture actually looks better.
god i only hope the 40LH40 in the living room doesnt start some problem but if it does i hope it does it within my 30 period so i can return to BB.

in all whats wierd is the 40 has a newer version of firmware so i can understand why she could just give me thaqt formware for this tv. for god sakes its the same tv just a smaller screen. am i wrong in this?

Has anyone had any problems running their computer to the TV in the sense that the image is clipped off and not centered?

I have to switch resolutions around from 1920 x 1080 to XX x 768 and all around to get the whole image in the frame and there is still a black spot over on the left hand side. Do you use a special program to position the image on the screen better? (Catalyst doesn't provide that support)

Thanks.

Hey guys. Does the 42lh40 suffer from the panel lottery or are they all s-ips? Is there a way to tell by looking at the box?

If using an ATi card, go into the catalyst control center and look for scaling options. Overscan should be set to 0%. Also, make sure tv is set to just scan if using HDMI. If using a vga connection, go into the tv menu-Picture- screen(rgb-pc). Select Auto Configure.


Looks like everyone is getting s-ips panels, haven't seen a complaint yet in this thread.

Something I noticed that is bugging me. I've had cable for a while now and not using an antenna so I took that off. Nothing is connected yet its still on the input list. When you disconnect something it should turn gray. Anyone know how to fix that?

How much more 42LH50 worth compared to 42LH40 considering internet functionality. Is it worth to pay $100 more for 42LH50?

The lh50 has netcast which allows you to stream movies from a pc and websites like youtube, netflix, and so on... You decide if that is worth an extra $100.

Or, you can pick up a blu-ray player or PS3 to do the same later. May get your $100 to go a bit further that way.

I just finally got my BRP wired in with hardline ethernet (about 100' of cable) and it's kind of cool. I did notice, netflix doesn't offer very much new stuff. But, our LG BRP has other HD services on it. The VUDU one looks promising. Cheaper than comcast HD "on demand" per movie. I watched a few previews via my BD550 and the quality is pretty good with my 55LH40.

If we make it through all the HD DVR stuff we have, I may rent a movie through it just to see how it does. I just started my netflix 30 day trial as well. Although... a lot of the movies on it we either already have in DVD form, or I'd rather see in HD/blu-ray if possible. Our mailbox is too small for them to ship, so I'd have to deal with online only. Most of the stuff I would want to see, they don't have yet...

Hi,
Thanks for the information. I was waiting for 2 weeks to see if i can get 42LH40 for a cheaper price compared to one i paid for 42LH50. Fry's has cleared these models and replaced with new set of LG models. 42LH40 is going for way more than i paid for 42LH50. My viewing distance is between 10 - 12 feet. I have a 4+ year child who regularly watches cartoon movies and he sits closer to TV. We are planning to watch normal dvd content played with upconverting dvd player and planning to get HD channels. Do you think 42' might be very small size.

Is it preferable to use up-converting dvd player or let TV do the up-conversion? Any suggestions to identify dead fixes once i started using TV. Please help.

Well, for me it would be too small. It may depend on what you did have currently/before.

Watching TV is one of my wife and I's main hobbies. We buy/rent pretty much everything and don't do theaters, so we are patient and wait for them to come out. We bought a 60" 4:3 rear projection CRT 10 years ago (first "married" purchase), so we kind of went big out of the gate. Unfortunately, that made everything else seem too small. Even the 55" seems a bit small unless it's 1080i/p and filling the entire screen (no black bars on top and bottom).

I just measured and our TV screen is 11 feet exactly from our face when sitting up on the couch. When reclined, a bit further. It's just about right. I have the face of the TV sitting about 5" closer than we had our 60" (it was 2.5 feet deep to the wall), but the image was 55" wide on the dot (60" corner to corner in 4:3). I have to say, after 10 years, it's weird to be able to see behind your TV... Didn't seen anything but a big black box when you walked by our old one.

I do notice that when we are in our seated positions, any lights to the right/left of the couch (on end tables), we can see each others light as glare on the screen. Our screen isn't a shiny one, more of a matte finish. My wife used to have a second light on behind the couch that she would use when doing her nails, but I had to ask her not to use it when I'm watching TV as the glare is really apparent with the bright light. I also notice the the black bars tend to be a bit gray on the furthest side from where a person is sitting (I sit on the right side, wife on the left). Isn't noticeable at all when an image is on that part of the screen. Only when the black bars are there.

Our setup:
From my dining room:


From the center of the couch (sorry about the flash):


From the center of the couch (really dark without the flash...):


I see people putting theirs up high and I don't get it. Having the center of the screen right as close to in line with where our eyes are seems to work out nice.

This is just from a guy that likes to watch TV. Dirty Jobs in HD is really dirty...

Hi olds97_lss,
Thanks for the information. It is very nice setup. I should be able to go for 47' tv. May be more than that. I am running out of time. I am pretty close to return window. If i return , i need to wait for next deal.

I am thinking of just using it for time being. We are staying in rented apartment anyway. Some how, We ended up getting slightly big living room this time.

We are renters as well. Which is why if you look close, you will notice a sub on top of a sub. The 10" JBL is just too much for an apartment... I really should just put the thing in a closet or sell it. It's not even plugged in. The one on top is just a little 50W "surround in a box" sub I had from 2-3 systems ago... but it's enough for our space.

I have installed TV today. It looks good. Size looks ok to me. It is my first LCD TV. My previous TV is, 26' CRT. That might be the reason why i am impressed with 42' size and PQ. It is just that, i have a space to go for bigger TV. I just realised this once i started spending some time reading here. That is just bothering me. Size looks good for my Child who sits near to TV and likes to keep watching same movie again and again. Thanks for your help all along. I will try to rearrange room once i get TV stand, such that we will have optimum distance.

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What is the consensus on this tv for input lag when gaming and does the 32lh40 have the ips panel?

Purchased 55LH40 two weeks ago (Manufacture date Sep 2009, firmware 4.30) and immediately noticed lip sync issue when using HDMI from Motorola DCH3416 HD DVR. Our provider is Cox. Optical connection to HT receiver worked fine; no lip sync issue. However, we only use the receiver for movies or "special shows", so I was intent on having the use of the TV speakers.

When listening to both HDMI and optical audio simultaneously it was obvious there was a problem. Not off much, but enough to be noticable and annoying. Severity seemed to vary, and I really didn't do any comparing between HD and Standard channels.

Read through the forums and search results and resigned myself to firmware upgrade (which rarely seemed to solve the problem), circuit board replacement, or TV replacement. BUT, found a post about changing the HDMI audio output from the DCH3416 to "L-PCM" (it was set to default: AUTO). Anyway, it worked! Not sure why; maybe someone can explain. Now the optical and HDMI audio match perfectly, and the TV sound is just fine.

Biggest difficulty was getting the DCH3416 menu to appear. Directions say to power off the box and immediately press the Menu button. Keep in mind that "power off" means putting the box in "standby" mode....not totally powered off (as in unplugged). After you press the Power button, press the Menu button until the currently-set screen ratio (e.g. 16:9) stays displayed on the DVR display. You may have to press Menu two or three times. Finally, the menu will pop-up on the TV. Use the arrows on the DVR remote to navigate the menu. Change the "HDMI Connection" (or something to that effect) setting to L-PCM. Press Menu button to close the menu.

Thanks to all who post on this and other forums; your time is well spent, and much appreciated. I hope this helps someone out there struggling with their new toy!

Had my LG47lh30 for a week, the picture is good, the sound is no worse than most TV sound, but the OTA tuner is far less sensitive than the one on the 42" Vizio that this set replaced. It receives at least a dozen fewer OTA channels, same antenna, same feed, same position, same everything. (Yes, I am without cable.) Had I bought it locally I would return it.

The Vizio lasted less than three years (frequently, but not always, would not turn on, frequently would not display anything but a blue screen, would not switch inputs from TV mode to AV or HDMI) but all in all, it was a better set when it worked.

A different tech replaced the main board on my 55" yesterday. The board was labeled 12Feb10 which, I assume, is the manufacture date. The installation was simple, went well and everything is back to being operational. Firmware version is 4.52 which, I believe, is the latest firmware. I like this television and now that I have a competent tech to work on it, should I need it, I like it better. Good luck to everyone who has to go though the software update.