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post #1 of 697
7/20/09 at 4:03pm
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Time to let the HD6K-M thread RIP, will be posting here from now on
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post #2 of 697
7/20/09 at 4:05pm
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The replacement projector which has been installed is the Titan 1080P Dual 3D Ultra...

Before I can comment fully on the Titan's performance I am awaiting one last detail from DPI.

What I can comment on so far is that Peter of Cinemarax has provided great assistance in the initial set-up, that actually required a visit from a DPI field engineer. DPI customer service is great and the engineer was at my house within 3 days after the initial install, I happen to think Peter had great influence in this customer service assistance, thanks Peter.

Some initial comments:

1)The projector should be installed inverted to get the maximum lens shift and also fall within the lens shift specifications. This was a breeze to accomplish as the projector can simply be turned upside down and the feet can be unscrewed from underside to top and still mount the projector inverted on a shelf.

2)There is only one DVI input and for best results the cable needs to be an HDMI to DVI, I had less than stellar results with an HDMI cable into a HDMI to DVI adapter. Also depending on cable length a HDMI repeater may be required.

3)The ILS system is functioning perfectly so far, simply save a Preset with current lens focus, shift, and zoom and the ILS location is in the preset memory.

4)Lumen Output AND On/Off Native contrast are quite extraordinary.

5)I want to reserve final comment on Picture quality until we hear back from DPI, but I can say I really like what I see so far but again this may be improved so no comment yet.

6)3 D capability, now this looks killer and I have ordered a 3 D Gamer computer just to check out the 3D Dual 16 Bit inputs, stay tuned...

7)FastFrame technology: 120HZ, Motion Blur Reduction, I have had no time to play around with the many settings of this technology
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post #3 of 697
7/20/09 at 6:58pm
COOL!!!

What did you have to buy the wife in exchange for you getting 3D?
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post #4 of 697
7/20/09 at 8:32pm
Can you post some pictures of the projector installed
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post #5 of 697
7/21/09 at 8:16am
Hey Lon...
Did the Titan fit on the stand? It is a bigger footprint than the Christie so I am curious...
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post #6 of 697
7/21/09 at 9:35am
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Right side up it fit, we just extended the 2 x 4's however for best results the projector needed to be inverted so the lens shift was up instead of down, and also dropped a few inches so minor reconstruction of the platform was needed.
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post #7 of 697
7/21/09 at 3:05pm
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Can you post some pictures of the projector installed


Here are some pictures from both sides
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post #8 of 697
7/21/09 at 5:38pm
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Right side up it fit, we just extended the 2 x 4's however for best results the projector needed to be inverted so the lens shift was up instead of down, and also dropped a few inches so minor reconstruction of the platform was needed.

Well that is good news.
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post #9 of 697
7/21/09 at 7:57pm
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Time to let the HD6K-M thread RIP, will be posting here from now on

LJG,

I just sent my Titan Ref off to get the ILM upgrade. I have been seriously looking at the 3D models.

What made you decide on the Titan 1080P Dual 3D Ultra Contrast over the Titan Reference 1080P 3D.

Thanks for your input and feedback.
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post #10 of 697
7/22/09 at 6:18am
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LJG,

I just sent my Titan Ref off to get the ILM upgrade. I have been seriously looking at the 3D models.

What made you decide on the Titan 1080P Dual 3D Ultra Contrast over the Titan Reference 1080P 3D.

Thanks for your input and feedback.

A few things influenced my decision:

1)Fast Frame Motion Blur Reduction
2)Dual Flash 3 D processing
3)120 Display Output

And last but not least Peter had the unit on its way to him so immediate delivery.

Just wondering what DPI charges to upgrade from Titan Reference to Titan 3D?

Lon
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post #11 of 697
7/22/09 at 6:23am
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More Notes:

The Dual 1080P 3D is very very loud even with the silencer in place, I will need to rework my Hood/Hush contraption to keep the loud whirling noise from entering my media room. 70 Db reading at Projector.

Playing around with the Fast Frame insertion I think I like what I see but the Yellow Notch Filter needs to turned off when the Fast Frame is active. The FastFrame works only for 60hz sources and looks reaaly good with live HD fast moving sports.

The ILS system is slow and steady as compared to the HD6K-M, it is probably a few swconds slower but possibly a little more accurate, time will tell.

Will have full notes end of next week as far as:

1)Lumen Output
2)On/Off CR
3)In room Ansi
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post #12 of 697
7/22/09 at 7:06am
Lon do you plan on adding a gaming PC and testing some of the 3d games?
If so Im looking forward to your findings. I may add this capability to my existing PC
and buy a flat panel for 3D if the games look promising.
Congrats on your new toy it sounds like a nice leap in performance
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post #13 of 697
7/22/09 at 9:33am
I had a chance to see game loops of several of the top games listed below.

Specifically Armed and Dangerous and Guitar Hero looked INCREDIBLE, IMAX 3D like.

These are the creme de la creme of all 3D games(the rest is omitted):

1701 A. D.
1701 A. D.-The Sunken Dragon expansion pack
3D Pong
Age of Empires 3
Age of Empires 3 - Asian Dynasties
Age of Empires 3 - The War Chiefs
Age of Pirates 2: City of Abandoned Ships
Alien vs Predator 2
Alvin and the Chipmunks
Armed and Dangerous
Assassin's Creed bttn_buynow.png
Attack on Pearl Harbor
Backyad Baseball 2005
Battlefield 2
Battle Forge
Bee Movie - The Game
Beijing Olympics
Beowulf
Biohazard 5
Black and White 2
Blazing Angels 2 - Secret missions of WWII
Boarder Zone
Call of Duty 4 bttn_buynow.png
Call of Duty World at War bttn_buynow.png
Cars Mater National
Chronicles of Narnia - Prince Caspian
Civilization 4 bttn_buynow.png
Civilization 4 - Beyond the Sword
Club, The
Command and Conquer 3 - Tiberiam Wars
Company of Heroes bttn_buynow.png
Company of Heroes Opposing Fronts bttn_buynow.png
Crazy Machines 2 bttn_buynow.png
Cricket 2005
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic
Dark One
Dead Reefs
Death Track Resurrection
Demigod
Devil May Cry 4 bttn_buynow.png
Devil May Cry 4 (DX10) bttn_buynow.png
Dirt Track Racing 2
Dream Pinball 3D
DRIV3R
Driver Parallel Lines
Ducati World Championship
Dungeon Runners
Elven Legacy
Empire Earth III
Empire Total War
Enter the Matrix
Eragon
Experiment, The
F.E.A.R. bttn_buynow.png
F.E.A.R. Perseus Mandate bttn_buynow.png
Fable - The Lost Chapters
Fallout 3 bttn_buynow.png
Far Cry
Far Cry 2 bttn_buynow.png
FIFA 06
FIFA 07
FIFA 08
FlatOut
FlatOut: Ultimate Carnage
Flight Sim X - Microsoft
Frontlines Fuel of War bttn_buynow.png
Gears of War
GTR 2
Guitar Hero 3
Guitar Hero Aeromsith
Gun
Half-Life 2 - Episode 2
Half-Life 2 - Portal
Half-Life 2 - Team Fortress 2
Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Heroes of Might and Magic 5
High Heat Baseball 2004
Hitman Contracts
Hot Wheels Beat That
I-Fluid
Igor the Game
Imperium Romanum
Impossible Creatures
Incredible Hulk
Incredibles, The
iRacing
Jack Keane
Jericho - Clive Barker's
LA Street Racing
Left 4 Dead
Lego Indiana Jones bttn_buynow.png
Lemony Snickets SUE
Loki
Lord of the Rings Battle For Middle Earth
Lord of the Rings Battle For Middle Earth II
Lord of the Rings Return of the King
LOST Via Domus
Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa
Madden NFL 2007
Madden NFL 2008
Mafia
Mage Knight Apocalypse
Manhunt
Mass Effect
Medal of Honor Airborne
Medieval 2 - Total War
Meet the Robinsons
Mirror's Edge bttn_buynow.png
Monster Jam
Monster Madness - Battle for Suburbia
Monsters vs. Aliens
Motocross Madness 2
MotoGP URT 3
Mount and Blade
NBA Live 08
NBA Live 2005
NBA Live 2006
Need for Speed Carbon
Need for Speed Pro Street
NHL 08
NHL 09
NHL 2005
NHL 2006
Painkiller
Painkiller Overdose
Polar Express, The
Prince of Persia (2008)
Prince of Persia - The Sands of Time
Psychonauts
Pure
Race 07
Race Driver Grid
Real Flight
Resident Evil 5
rFactor
Rise and Fall: Civilizations at War
Rogue Trooper
Roller Coaster Tycoon
Sega Rally Revo bttn_buynow.png
Serious Sam 2
Space Seige bttn_buynow.png
Spider-Man: Friend or Foe
QQ Speed
Spellforce 2 Shadow Wars
Spiderman 3
Spiderwick Chronicles
Spore bttn_buynow.png
Spore Creature Creator bttn_buynow.png
STALKER - Clear Sky bttn_buynow.png
STALKER - Shadow of Chernobyl
Star Wars: Battlefront 2
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
Star Wars: Republic Commando
Stranglehold(John Woo's)
Supreme Commander bttn_buynow.png
Surf's Up
Switchball
Sword of the New World
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Testdrive Unlimited
Tian Xia 2
Tiger Woods 2007
Tiger Woods 2008
Timeshift
Titan Quest
Tomb Raider - Anniversary
Tomb Raider - Legend
Tomb Raider - Underworld bttn_buynow.png
Tony Hawk Underground 2
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4
Topspin
Torino 2006
Turok
Two Worlds
Universal Combat
Unreal Tournament 2004
Unreal Tournament III bttn_buynow.png
Vampires The Masquerade -Bloodliness
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War® II
Warhammer Online:Age of Reckoning
Winning Eleven 7
Wolverine's Revenge
World of Warcraft bttn_buynow.png
World of Warcraft Burning Crusade bttn_buynow.png
World of Warcraft Lich King bttn_buynow.png
X Men the Legends 2
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post #14 of 697
7/22/09 at 10:43am
Im more of a sim gamer and there's plenty on that list to keep me busy for a long while.
I hope once 3-D movie content becomes available the list looks half as appetizing, cant wait.
For the rest of us poor souls without the proper gear we might have to have a gaming/movie session over at Lon's
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post #15 of 697
7/22/09 at 11:10am
Peter, in addition to the Titan 3D what other components are needed for gaming. In particular, are you using the dual DVI inputs on the Titan? What card is recommended? What glasses are recommended?


Jim
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post #16 of 697
7/22/09 at 12:30pm
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As per Peter, Dual Nvidia 295 Cards with SLI, Minimum 1000 watt power supply.

Dual DVI input into 3D main and Sub input 8 of Titan

Glasses are linear polarization shutter glasses and are available from Nvidia, X-Pand, or Real D

Some info her http://www.nvidia.com/object/GeForce...sion_Main.html

Thanks Peter
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post #17 of 697
7/22/09 at 1:23pm
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Originally Posted by LJG View Post

As per Peter, Dual Nvidia 295 Cards with SLI, Minimum 1000 watt power supply.

Dual DVI input into 3D main and Sub input 8 of Titan

Glasses are linear polarization shutter glasses and are available from Nvidia, X-Pand, or Real D

Some info her http://www.nvidia.com/object/GeForce...sion_Main.html

Thanks Peter

Thanks Lon (and Peter), that's very helpful.


Jim
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post #18 of 697
7/22/09 at 4:27pm
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Originally Posted by LJG View Post

As per Peter, Dual Nvidia 295 Cards with SLI, Minimum 1000 watt power supply.

Dual DVI input into 3D main and Sub input 8 of Titan

Glasses are linear polarization shutter glasses and are available from Nvidia, X-Pand, or Real D

Some info her http://www.nvidia.com/object/GeForce...sion_Main.html

Thanks Peter

What is the rationale with two Nvidia cards is .. I understand about SLI, but is this the minimum or is this the peter Uber standard..
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post #19 of 697
7/22/09 at 4:28pm
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Playing around with the Fast Frame insertion I think I like what I see but the Yellow Notch Filter needs to turned off when the Fast Frame is active.

Yellow? This is interesting. The Notch Filter in my Titan 1080p250 unit is "greenish", completely spoiling the image. I never understood why the filter is "green", yellow does at least make some sense...

Maybe there's something wrong with my machine?
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post #20 of 697
7/22/09 at 4:56pm
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Originally Posted by wuffzack View Post

Yellow? This is interesting. The Notch Filter in my Titan 1080p250 unit is "greenish", completely spoiling the image. I never understood why the filter is "green", yellow does at least make some sense...

Maybe there's something wrong with my machine?

Just an expression that carried over from my HD6K-M, meant to say the filter for Xenon like color, the colors need to be adjusted for when the filter is in place vs Non-filter.
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post #21 of 697
7/22/09 at 4:57pm
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What is the rationale with two Nvidia cards is .. I understand about SLI, but is this the minimum or is this the peter Uber standard..

I thought 2- 295 cards would increase performance maybe not?
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post #22 of 697
7/22/09 at 5:20pm
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What is the rationale with two Nvidia cards is .. I understand about SLI, but is this the minimum or is this the peter Uber standard..

My understanding was that although Quad SLI is supported by Nvidia for 3D vision, there's absolutely no performance improvement provided.

Dual 295's make for one power sucking, heat producing monster of a machine. Given that the GT300s will likely appear later this year (probably on a 40nm process), I can't see why anyone would recommend anything beyond a single 295 for the time being.


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post #23 of 697
7/22/09 at 5:28pm
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Thanks guys appreciate that, OK dual 295's are not needed, saves a good amount of cash too!!!
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post #24 of 697
7/22/09 at 5:30pm
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What would you suggest in a preconfigured gaming PC?
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post #25 of 697
7/22/09 at 5:45pm
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Originally Posted by Alan Gouger View Post

Lon do you plan on adding a gaming PC and testing some of the 3d games?
If so Im looking forward to your findings. I may add this capability to my existing PC
and buy a flat panel for 3D if the games look promising.
Congrats on your new toy it sounds like a nice leap in performance

Lon, aren't you in real estate? Did you figure how to play this years top game, "Forclosure 3D Making Millions with Federal Bailout Funds" so you could afford this fantastic video setup???
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post #26 of 697
7/22/09 at 5:56pm
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Yeah, Thats the Ticket, you busted me Stevo Federal Bailout money for project Titan 3D.

Below is the project head analyzing the real estate market as it currently exists
LL
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post #27 of 697
7/22/09 at 8:33pm
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Originally Posted by LJG View Post

What would you suggest in a preconfigured gaming PC?

This is from Nvidia website


Microsoft® Windows® Vista 32/64-bit or Windows 7 32/64-bit
Intel® Core2 Duo or AMD Athlon X2 CPU or higher
1GB of system memory. (2GB is recommended)
100 MB free disk space


NVIDIA GeForce Desktop GPUs


GeForce 200/100 Series
GeForce 9 Series
GeForce 8 Series

3D Gaming GeForce GTX 295
GeForce GTX 285
GeForce GTX 280
GeForce GTX 275
GeForce GTX 260
GeForce GTS 250
GeForce GT 140 GeForce 9800 GX2
GeForce 9800 GTX+
GeForce 9800 GTX
GeForce 9800 GT
GeForce 9600 GT GeForce 8800 Ultra
GeForce 8800 GTX
GeForce 8800 GTS
GeForce 8800 GT
3D Applications (Cooliris) GeForce GTX 295
GeForce GTX 285
GeForce GTX 280
GeForce GTX 275
GeForce GTX 260
GeForce GTS 250
GeForce GT 140 GeForce 9800 GX2
GeForce 9800 GTX+
GeForce 9800 GTX
GeForce 9800 GT
GeForce 9600 GT GeForce 8800 Ultra
GeForce 8800 GTX
GeForce 8800 GTS
GeForce 8800 GT
3D Pictures All GeForce 200/100 Series All GeForce 9 Series All GeForce 8 Series
3D Movies All GeForce 200/100 Series All GeForce 9 Series All GeForce 8 Series


http://www.nvidia.com/object/GeForce...uirements.html




I not sure why you couldn't do this with an ATI card
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post #28 of 697
7/23/09 at 5:01am
OMFG. 3D Gaming on a giant screen with world class audio sounds very promising indeed. Kudos Lon!
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post #29 of 697
7/23/09 at 7:09am
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OMFG. 3D Gaming on a giant screen with world class audio sounds very promising indeed. Kudos Lon!

Giant is an understatement...no fun to mount (I know, I had to do it).
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post #30 of 697
7/23/09 at 9:12am
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Originally Posted by LJG View Post

As per Peter, Dual Nvidia 295 Cards with SLI, Minimum 1000 watt power supply.

Dual DVI input into 3D main and Sub input 8 of Titan

Glasses are linear polarization shutter glasses and are available from Nvidia, X-Pand, or Real D

Some info her http://www.nvidia.com/object/GeForce...sion_Main.html

Thanks Peter



Peter are these LCD shutter glasses ... some people may experience headache using these glasses to long did you ? .. there also seems to be some blinking issues in the glasses when using nvidia 3d vision and pc gaming
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