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post #151 of 697
12/28/09 at 6:58pm
Ahum, guess you guys missed the Optoma HD66 $699,- MSRP 3D projector announcement. There is already a small list of budget 3D ready projectors. Of course Home 3D started (not will start) in the 30+K range with nice 9" CRTs. And Celluloid projectors before that.

Making stuff work together nicely is still an issue, and will indeed take time to straighten out.

And if you guys want 3D, on a budget to tie you over, or to push ones nose under the tent, just pick up one of those trusty ol' DLP RPTVs from Samsung/Mitsubishi, those have been 3D capable for a number of years.
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post #152 of 697
12/29/09 at 6:33am
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Originally Posted by donaldk View Post

Ahum, guess you guys missed the Optoma HD66 $699,- MSRP 3D projector announcement. There is already a small list of budget 3D ready projectors. Of course Home 3D started (not will start) in the 30+K range with nice 9" CRTs. And Celluloid projectors before that.

Making stuff work together nicely is still an issue, and will indeed take time to straighten out.

And if you guys want 3D, on a budget to tie you over, or to push ones nose under the tent, just pick up one of those trusty ol' DLP RPTVs from Samsung/Mitsubishi, those have been 3D capable for a number of years.

I am talking about projectors that will allow some one to view 3D movies on a 10' screen or larger.

And the projectors you claim are already 3D do not use the latest adaptive optics and software being used to display new 3D movies. they are all use a variant technology and is not the direction the 3D maket is taking.

And my final comment "just how many 300 million dollar 3D movies do people think will be done in the next 2-3 years. CGW magazine estimates that the 3D effects used in Avatar cost Cameron an additional 55 million dollars for 3D visuallization effects.

Its coming but I think we are safe for another 2-3 years maybe more.

Jim
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post #153 of 697
12/29/09 at 6:36am
There are plenty of movies already to keep me happy, of course the could throw in Hondo for a better round up, but don't forget the Imax Library.

I want to live in Pandora...
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post #154 of 697
12/29/09 at 7:27am
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Originally Posted by ddingle View Post

I discussed with Jim Peterson at Lumagen. It would be interesting to see if the XE Radiance set to 1080p24hz on the output would exhibit the same problems. It utilizes an improved 1.3 HDMI circuit.There may be an advantage to implementing a built in cat 5/6 output for a processor. Convert back to HDMI or DVI just before the projector.
I am going to try the XE with a Titan Reference HD 3D next month
DPI's implementation of their DVI input is pretty poor at best. I imagine the upgrade in the new projector will be associated with that circuit.The DPI projectors are state of the art otherwise. I want one!
Jim doe feels the 60hz option works best overall with the Lumagen. Judder in pans in the only advantage to 24p. If that is not distracting 60hz works better. Interestingly as Jim noted the longer time between frames makes any errors more obvious with 24p.
It makes me realize just how much is going on on a combination of equipment like this.Amazing it works as well as it does.

The issue is not related to cable, nor related to the Radiance, this has been discussed ad nuseum in the thread. I am now cautiously optimistic that this very issue will be resloved fully with my brand new replacement unit.
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post #155 of 697
12/29/09 at 7:17pm
Wow, this thread was a painful read. I hope everything works out OK in the end. Best of luck!!!
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post #156 of 697
1/6/10 at 6:04pm
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Looks like I will need to find an HDMI to Dual DVI output adapter come June for Directv3D and possibly sooner for Bluray3D.....
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post #157 of 697
1/7/10 at 7:36am
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Looks like I will need to find an HDMI to Dual DVI output adapter come June for Directv3D and possibly sooner for Bluray3D.....

Is someone saying BD 3D will be here before Cedia?
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post #158 of 697
1/7/10 at 8:12am
And you will have to buy some shutter glasses. But that is about it.
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post #159 of 697
1/7/10 at 10:42am
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Dirtectv begins broadcasting 3 channels in 3d in June
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post #160 of 697
1/7/10 at 11:04am
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Is someone saying BD 3D will be here before Cedia?

I believe the HTPC players will be out first.
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post #161 of 697
1/20/10 at 5:10pm
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New replacement unit has passed all tests at DPI and is being shipped tonight, will have it up and calibrated Monday, I have been told all issues have been resolved
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post #162 of 697
1/20/10 at 5:21pm
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New replacement unit has passed all tests at DPI and is being shipped tonight, will have it up and calibrated Monday, I have been told all issues have been resolved

Lon,
What are the specs on this PJ ?

Art
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post #163 of 697
1/20/10 at 5:40pm
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DPI specs are 4500 lumens, 5500:1 Contrast
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post #164 of 697
1/20/10 at 5:51pm
and 3-D
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post #165 of 697
1/21/10 at 4:25am
Yea ,I got that Peter.

Art
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post #166 of 697
1/21/10 at 4:33am
Will 3D pass through a Lumagen or other processor? If not then any critical calibration using the processor would not be available when feeding a 3D signal to the 2 DVI inputs on the Reference 700
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post #167 of 697
1/21/10 at 5:04am
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That would be correct, it is my understanding that the 3D input is without internal processing by the Titan
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post #168 of 697
1/21/10 at 5:52am
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I would like to test the 3D function of the Titan, can anyone point me in the direction of a barebone prebuilt HTPC that will do stereoscopic 3D. I am not a gammer so the computer would just be to test the 3D and run some demo material, hence the barebone(cheap) criteria
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post #169 of 697
1/21/10 at 6:27am
http://store.yabazam.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=32

http://us.mg204.mail.yahoo.com/dc/la...=61gd8n5unhuk2

That is software and system that can be used on a pc with an nvidia 3-D card.

I guess the best thing is to buy a low end gaming pc. The video card and glasses system is the most important thing for 3-D. Xpand is about the best (or the reald D cristal vision 3?)

Later you add a BD3D drive + Arcsoft TMT 3D and your good to go.
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post #170 of 697
1/21/10 at 6:29am
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Will 3D pass through a Lumagen or other processor? If not then any critical calibration using the processor would not be available when feeding a 3D signal to the 2 DVI inputs on the Reference 700

You may need to split audio and video for hdmi 1.3.
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post #171 of 697
1/21/10 at 6:29am
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and 3-D

3D 60 not 24.
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post #172 of 697
1/21/10 at 8:21am
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http://us.mg204.mail.yahoo.com/dc/la...=61gd8n5unhuk2

Later you add a BD3D drive + Arcsoft TMT 3D and your good to go.

Yahoo link went to my yahoo email account
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post #173 of 697
1/21/10 at 9:55am
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3D 60 not 24.

That is right.In this unit the player has to do 2-3 pull-up. Which they will do.
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post #174 of 697
1/21/10 at 9:56am
http://www.tridef.com/home.html
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post #175 of 697
1/24/10 at 6:30am
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The new Titan 1080P 3D Dual Ultra Contrast manual was enclosed on CD with the projector. A lot more things are starting to make sense now. If anyone would like a copy PM me.
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post #176 of 697
1/24/10 at 6:58am
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Interesting readng so far.

Input 8 which is the High Bandwidth/High Frame rate, and 3D, has the option of of the following connections:

Dual DVI for High Bandwiith/frame rae which is 8 bit color 24-120 hz, connection to Input 8 Main

Twin single DVI, whic is increased bit depth/extended gray graysacle 10 or 12 bit color, connection to both Input 8 main and Sub

Dual Twin DVI, which accepts 24-120 and 10-12 bit color, connection to both input 8 main and sub.

I don't know of any 10-12 bit sources with Twin DVI connections though
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post #177 of 697
1/24/10 at 7:31am
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I don't know of any 10-12 bit sources with Twin DVI connections though

DCI server/player. I do not think the projector would hand shake not being DCI.
Could you play non encrypted content via this combo?

The Barco/Folsom ACS 2048 video processor outputs twin DVI at 10 or 12 bits. Peter?
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post #178 of 697
1/24/10 at 7:39am
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Projector is not DCI compliant
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post #179 of 697
1/24/10 at 8:25am
Right Alan the ACS 2048 scaler has that dual cable 12 bit output. At the time I tried it I was using copper hdmi and then when we went with fiber (D-TROVISION) and everything was fine we just went with 8 bit in. I am planning on retrying that scaler here later this year.

I am thinking a QUADRO NVIDIA card may do that too.
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post #180 of 697
1/24/10 at 1:07pm
Hmm, in advance of the ISE show I noticed a new small scaler series by Calibre from the UK, one of these was billed as alternative content something for 2 and 4k Digital cinema Projectors, check it out.

Affordable is how this vendor advertises its products, as I was unsuccessfully looking for any pricing info on its new blending scaler/processor, but a few years they said the same and I didn't agree, so doubt they will be less than TVOne's little 2450 blending boxes.
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