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post #181 of 701
Does not seem to output dual dvi 12 bit, Donald. Neither does Gefen's DCI scaler.

PremierViewProHD-Digital Cinema
INPUTS
1x HDMI 1.3 with audio, 10-bit capable
1x DVI-D,
1x HD-SDI (SD-SDI compatible)
2x Composite Video via BNC (NTSC/PAL/SECAM)
2x S-Video via MiniDIN (NTSC/PAL/SECAM)
2x Component video YPbPr/YPbPrS/RGB/RGBS HD/ED/SD via BNCs
1x SVGA via 15HDD
2x SPDIF coaxial digital audio via RCA
2x Toslink fiber-optic audio
4x Stereo analog audio pair via 2 RCAs
.
GENLOCK
Genlock to house sync, component input, HDMI/DVI, SVGA or HDSDI.
(NB DVI cannot be used for genlock if HDMI is displayed and vice-versa.)
OUTPUTS
1x DVI-D, 10-bit HDMI 1.3 capable
1x SVGA via 15HDD
1x SPDIF coaxial digital audio via RCA
1x Toslink fiber-optic audio
1x Stereo analog audio pair via 2 RCAs
DISPLAY MODES Pre-defined automatic output configuration enabled by menu
selection of 320/220/210 or 110 series Sony projector type.
USER CONTROLS
Control/Ports
Front panel controls with character LCD display
4 user configurable presets
Programmable soft keys for faster input switching
Remote control via RS232 serial port
Remote control via TCP/IP
USB port for firmware update
PC control software included
Signal Paths
10-bit ADCs for composite, S-Video
12-bit ADCs for component video
10-bit HDMI, 8-bit DVI support
10-bit HD/SD-SDI
Modes of Operation
(1) Full image processing and filtering, with or without I/O frame rate tracking, or
I/O lock mode.
(2) Low latency mode with reduced processing, per-input or per-input-persignal
selectable.
Power
Integral PSU, 100-240VAC 50/60Hz, power via IEC connector.
Rear-mounted power switch.
Front standby/on control key.
Premium-grade cooling fan for reliable installation in equipment racks
Mounting Information
Extremely rugged, professional 19” (2U) Rack case with carrying handles.
Case colour : Black
Impressive Image Processing features
ü Chroma improvement processing with CCS, CUE, ICP filtering
ü Per-Pixel Motion Adaptive adjustable TNR (temporal/film noise)
filtering - HD & SD
ü Motion Adaptive adjustable CNR (MPEG mosquito and block noise)
filtering - SD
ü 4-field per-pixel motion adaptive de-interlace with MDDF (multidirectional
diagonal filtering) - HD & SD
ü 3:2, 2:2 and non-standard cadence pull-down correction with
automatic adaptation to non-standard and broken cadences.
ü Frame-rate conversion
ü Selectable 24Hz, 48Hz, 50Hz or 59.94Hz 2K/1080p output modes
from 24p or 24sfp input
ü 2D image detail enhancement and sharpness control HD & SD,
realtime unsharp mask
ü Color gain and cut-offs adjustment – HD & SD
ü Gamma selection – HD & SD
ü Aspect ratio conversion – HD & SD
ü Picture in Picture (PiP)
ü Audio delay correction automatically adjusts for video processing
time
ü Per input channel, per signal type parameter storage and automatic
configuration.
ü Uses Silicon Optix Realta with HQV by Teranex video processing
with Calibre’s custom firmware
ü Clean input switching
ü Zoom, pan and tilt function
ü Extreme keystone correction
ü Image flip left-right, up-down
Warranty
3-year return to base warranty covers parts and labour, shipping excluded.
Calibre UK operates a QA programme compliant with ISO9001:2000
Key Features
Inputs Front
Controls
Remote
Control
Processing Motion
Adaptive
Noise
Reduction
Real-time
Unsharp
Mask
Audio
Follow Video
24p
Output
Support
HQView400DC DVI, HDMI,
2xComposite,
1xSVideo,
1xComponent,
1xVGA,
1xHD-SDI
OSD based
with direct
input select
keys
TCP/IP
based
webserver or
TCP/IP &
RS232 based
API
IDT-HQV on
ReonVX video
processor
SD only
PVProHD-DC DVI, HDMI,
2xComposite,
2xSVideo,
2xComponent,
1xVGA,
1xHD-SDI
Front panel
LCD, user
definable
input select
keys with
signal status
indicaton
TCP/IP or
RS232 based
remote
control
application
and API
Realta professional
image processor
running HQV by
Teranex postproduction
grade
real-time
processing using
1Tflop TVP DSP
HD & SD up
to 1080i50/60
and 1080p24
max
HD & SD up
to 1080i50/60
and 1080p24
max
Analog,
digital and
optical audio
support, user
definable
automatic
audio routing
Yes
post #182 of 701
Like I said I was interested in another product the 310 wich is a little blending box, so only noticed the name that suggested it might fit the bill.
post #183 of 701
I have the Calibre PremierViewProHD. Single DVI but it does output 10 bit and it puts consumer VPs to shame with its picture. Very clean image. It does have a few bugs that they have yet to addressed. These are in the +6k price range.
post #184 of 701
When are we going to see ITC Vida chip based processors?
post #185 of 701
Thread Starter 
Well good news so far, just swapped projectors, 1080P24 issue is fully resolved, perfect 1080P24 playback, more tests to follow
post #186 of 701
I sent my congratulations to DPI.
post #187 of 701
Thread Starter 
Everything is great, Convergence is spot on less than 1/8 out in center, 1080P24 issue resolved.

Only seeing one issue, my Radiance XD and the DVI input of the Titan are having some sync issues. I did not have this with the prior Titan but then again the electronics/processing have been changed. Remember I am using DVI Gear Fiber Optic cables so it is not a cable issue. Probably the new electronics are more sensitive.

I will need to play around with repeaters and extenders to resolve the situation. I may need to upgrade to the Radiance XE which has 1.3 HDMI drivers vs the XD which has 1.1. Jim Peterson of Lumagen has been very helpfull
post #188 of 701
That is amazing to achieve that kind of convergence with such a short throw lens in that TI platform, I was beginning to doubt it could be achievable due to lens flare, so that is a big positive. The Radiance 1.3 upgrade sounds like a good solution.
post #189 of 701
The Board swap to convert an XD to XE is not too difficult. We also found that 1.3 products worked more consistently with a DPI Titan HD 1080p.
Sounds like you have a winner! Enjoy!
post #190 of 701
Thread Starter 
Yes indeed just upgrade to Radiance XE, DVI syncs perfectly and is now rock solid, the HDMI 1.3 driver is needed with the Titan series DVI. So at this point the Titan is perfect in all ways.

Jim Peterson was very helpful and generous in his upgrade price and process
post #191 of 701
Quote:
Originally Posted by LJG View Post

Yes indeed just upgrade to Radiance XE, DVI syncs perfectly and is now rock solid, the HDMI 1.3 driver is needed with the Titan series DVI. So at this point the Titan is perfect in all ways.

Jim Peterson was very helpful and generous in his upgrade price and process


My XE upgrade was completed Thursday and is on its way back.

Lumagen is a great company to work with.

Just waiting for DPI to send out my Titan Reference.

Jim
post #192 of 701
Quote:
Originally Posted by LJG View Post

Yes indeed just upgrade to Radiance XE, DVI syncs perfectly and is now rock solid, the HDMI 1.3 driver is needed with the Titan series DVI. So at this point the Titan is perfect in all ways.

Jim Peterson was very helpful and generous in his upgrade price and process

Congrats Lon! You seem to be very satisfied with the overall performance now!
post #193 of 701
Thread Starter 
Thanks Norman, it has finally all come together. I should be set until we see 4000 lumen LED DLP, with servo lens memory
post #194 of 701
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jbm007 View Post

My XE upgrade was completed Thursday and is on its way back.

Lumagen is a great company to work with.

Just waiting for DPI to send out my Titan Reference.

Jim

Congratulations Jim, I'm glad you pulled the trigger. The Lumagen XE works like a charm with the Titan
post #195 of 701
Thread Starter 
NFL Superbowl Props:

1)Over/Under of people asking how big my screen is 15
2)Over/Under of people asking about porn on my screen 22
3)Which question will be asked first 1 or 2 - (2) 5:1 favorite
4)Over Under Number of people asking to see porn instead of halftime show 22
post #196 of 701
Quote:
Originally Posted by LJG View Post

NFL Superbowl Props:

1)Over/Under of people asking how big my screen is 15
2)Over/Under of people asking about porn on my screen 22
3)Which question will be asked first 1 or 2 - (2) 5:1 favorite
4)Over Under Number of people asking to see porn instead of halftime show 22



Can you post a screen shot that would help
post #197 of 701
+1, 3d
post #198 of 701
LJG or Cinermax,

I ordered a Titan Ref 3D today. I was told that it comes standard set at 4000 lumens, but can be customized anywhere between 4000 and 8000.

How does the Titan Ref 3D differ from the Ultra Contrast 3D?

I am using a 170" wide Scope screen but am looking at changing that out for a 170" wide 2.0 4 way masking SMX.

Do i need to customized it for higher brightness, thinking 6000 lumens? What is the trade off with Contrast?

Expecting to take delivery the 2nd week in April.

Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.
post #199 of 701
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Originally Posted by ccool96 View Post

LJG or Cinermax,

I ordered a Titan Ref 3D today. I was told that it comes standard set at 4000 lumens, but can be customized anywhere between 4000 and 8000.

How does the Titan Ref 3D differ from the Ultra Contrast 3D?

I am using a 170" wide Scope screen but am looking at changing that out for a 170" wide 2.0 4 way masking SMX.

Do i need to customized it for higher brightness, thinking 6000 lumens? What is the trade off with Contrast?

Expecting to take delivery the 2nd week in April.

Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.

Congrats C

If you want 3-D I would want 6k lumens, you will have to divide that by 4.5 to get the actual once wearing glasses.

BTW the glasses to get:

Reald Crystal Eyes 4.

Maybe DPI can sell em to ya.
post #200 of 701
Thread Starter 
CC:

I would think the range of lumen 4000-8000 corresponds directly with the contrast ratio offered, visa vee the fixed aperture.

Without the fixed aperture, full lumen output of 8000 can be reached but the on/off would be limited to around 2000-2500:1.

With the fixed aperture choking down the lumen output to 4000 the on/off is increased to 5000-5500:1 on off.

So depending on the iris setting of the fixed aperture lumen output can range from 4000-8000, but at a cost to the on/off which will drop from 5500:1-2500:1 or less
post #201 of 701
Thread Starter 
CC:

4000 lumen should be plenty I am running 168" 2.35 without Anamorphic lens and the brightness is not lacking in 2D.
post #202 of 701
Hi. Are you stating the adequacy of the brightness in 2D or 3D with shutter glasses? With the glasses in use and the machine in 3D mode, one would get only about 16% of the light level displaying 2D and not wearing shutter glasses.
post #203 of 701
Actually, re-the output of the Titan: 10k lumens for the 1080p-700 (Titan ref without apeture plate and HB optics) 4-8k lumens for Titan ref ( same exact projector, apeture plate and high contrast optics ) I think the output range comes from 1 lamp or 2 and output percentage choices (you can go from 86%-100% with one lamp or 2).

So for contrast, if we say that 5k:1 is apeture plate+HC optics and 2k:1 is just HB optics, if you were to pair the Titan 1080p-700 3D with HC optics you could see 3k-3500:1 contrast?

The shutter glasses have some inherent light loss to them (they aren't perfectly clear because of the LCD panels), and you're only getting light through one eye at a time, instead of both.

personally, I'm starting to espouse the belief that to future proof any 3D install you'll need 2 projectors.

Dan
post #204 of 701
Dan. The light reduction FP displays using shutter glasses is a lot ore than 50% plus some from the shutter glasses. there is a bunch of white papers on the various systems. It must be remembered that each component having a certain 3d light efficiency must be multiplied by the efficiencency of the next piece in the chain.
As an example say the projector displaying in one flash the image for the right eye and the next flash the image for the right eye. now it takes time for the image to be displayed in full, the shutterglass for that eye to open, shut, the image to be extinguished, and the whole mess repeated for the other eye. The actual amount of light on the screen is reduced way below 50%. Then one must multiply the optical efficiency of the glasses. They absorb light. When you get through, one is left with 16% of the original 2D light. I am simplifying but my number is right.
post #205 of 701
Thread Starter 
Rather than 2 projectors I think what would be nice to see is a manual Iris that can be controlled by the projector, wide open for 3D content and clamped down for ultimate contrast for 2D.

Another possibility would be a dynamic Iris that could be turned on for 2D and turned off (completely open) for 3D.

Lastly I believe, but am not 100% sure, that 3D content will be 16:9 so the projector will be using the full panel for maximum brightness
post #206 of 701
Thread Starter 
Is the Titan Reference 3D the same projector as the Titan 3D 1080P dual Ultra contrast?
post #207 of 701
Seems like it, I'll have to check the price list later.

Mark, I wasn't disputing your number at all- I was just trying to make a very simplified point.

Dan
post #208 of 701
Quote:
Originally Posted by LJG View Post


Lastly I believe, but am not 100% sure, that 3D content will be 16:9 so the projector will be using the full panel for maximum brightness

Avatar was available in no less than 7 aspect ratio and 2-D / 3-D variants.

I hope the 2-D BD is cinemascope or flipside and that the 3-D be full panel.
post #209 of 701
Quote:
Originally Posted by DanFrancis View Post

personally, I'm starting to espouse the belief that to future proof any 3D install you'll need 2 projectors.

Dan

Naw come on! The future is clearly a brighter projector modded to the hilt with adjustable smart lamp-house.



Oh here is a pic of the new RealD glasses that Sony used at CES. They are designing the same cooler looking with the SONY LOGO.


LL
LL
post #210 of 701
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ccool96 View Post

LJG or Cinermax,

I ordered a Titan Ref 3D today. I was told that it comes standard set at 4000 lumens, but can be customized anywhere between 4000 and 8000.

How does the Titan Ref 3D differ from the Ultra Contrast 3D?

I am using a 170" wide Scope screen but am looking at changing that out for a 170" wide 2.0 4 way masking SMX.

Do i need to customized it for higher brightness, thinking 6000 lumens? What is the trade off with Contrast?

Expecting to take delivery the 2nd week in April.

Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.

Great Theater, I happened to catch your thread yesterday when I say your DPI projector for sale on Videogon.

If I had the room behind the theater like you have I would strongly consider a Barco, as Peter says you can get more light then you know what to do with, adjustable lamps, contrast modified, 3D ready, DCI content, 4K upgradeable.

Its really a no brainer for you
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