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post #61 of 711
9/3/09 at 7:16pm
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Hey what's going on with my Titan? The field turned blue on ESPNHD on the Boise State Oregon football game
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post #62 of 711
9/4/09 at 6:22am
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Hey what's going on with my Titan? The field turned blue on ESPNHD on the Boise State Oregon football game

Yea, I've heard DPI is having a few issues with the color management.

Art
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post #63 of 711
9/8/09 at 7:33am
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Cineskin and 3d Server announced

New TITAN CINEskin
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post #64 of 711
9/8/09 at 7:05pm
I'm all about DPI, but I have to say that the Cineskin looks like an interpretation of the AMPRO 4600... or the old Barco/Runco 9" CRTs in gloss-black.

I think they could have done better with that one.

I'll be taking the 3D workshop for the ultimate 3D experience.

Dan
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post #65 of 711
9/23/09 at 7:17am
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I am having some issues with HDMI cables playing nice with my Titan, I thought I had solved the problem with a HDMI booster and running HDMI to DVI cable without any adapters, but no there seems to be video noise apparent that would be a cable issue.

Can anyone recommend a fiber optic cable? The run is about 25-30'?
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post #66 of 711
9/23/09 at 7:39am
Hi Lon,

DVI Gear is what DPI and Barco use.

http://www2.dvigear.com/fiopca.html
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post #67 of 711
9/23/09 at 7:56am
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Originally Posted by LJG View Post

Can anyone recommend a fiber optic cable? The run is about 25-30'?

The one that comes with the Lumis is very good.


Seriously, another vote for DVI Gear.

Ive used both optical and HDMI cables due to their construction and connector quality.

They're the choice of many top installers...........and Peter.
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post #68 of 711
9/23/09 at 9:59am
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Thanks guys will try, the Titans DVI inputs are not as Robust as the previous HDMI inputs of my HT5000 and later the HD6K-M....
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post #69 of 711
9/23/09 at 10:08am
Lon. That is the best avatar I have ever seen. Simply beautiful. I trust you are very proud of your boy.
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post #70 of 711
9/23/09 at 10:22am
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155 pounds of pure Mush, never heard the fellow growl except when people walk on road behind my house, most gentliest dog I have ever met
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post #71 of 711
9/23/09 at 12:53pm
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DVI gear Out they don't make a HDMI to DVI optic cable, still searching for a solution...
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post #72 of 711
9/23/09 at 1:00pm
The DVI GEAR hdmi cable has two small hdmi wire jumpers at each end , replace one with a small dvi to hdmi from a third party.
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post #73 of 711
9/23/09 at 1:09pm
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Hi Peter:

Do you mean an HDMI to DVI adapter, the Titan also does not play nice with that..

I was told by DPI and others to stay away from adpters
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post #74 of 711
9/23/09 at 1:10pm
Contact Kei at www.digitalconnection.com she sells the fiber cable terminated with your choice or she can sell you a kit allowing you to terminate it yourself.

sales@digitalconnection.com
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post #75 of 711
9/23/09 at 1:24pm
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Thanks Alan I shot her an email
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post #76 of 711
9/23/09 at 1:45pm
Hi Lon,

The Titan DVI input has no reclocking circuit as found on many consumer HDMI devices these days. As you have found this makes it super sensitive to cable quality for the longer runs you typically need.

Since we also use DVI Gear for all DPI projects (in fact we are distributors of both brands in Europe) I can share some of our test data for flawless 1080P.

You can use the SHR series without EQ for lengths up to 10m.

You can use the SHR series plus ACE EQ for lengths up to 20m.

The optical cables work flawlessly at all lengths.

One thing you may want to consider is the new 7510a Coax Extender. This offers similar performance to the optical units but uses 4 core coax (5 if you only power at the sender) as the transport layer.
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post #77 of 711
9/23/09 at 2:04pm
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Originally Posted by CINERAMAX View Post

The DVI GEAR hdmi cable has two small hdmi wire jumpers at each end , replace one with a small dvi to hdmi from a third party.

Boy am I stupid, I just looked at the DVI Gear site and see the HDMI connectors are female so a simple short HDMI to DVI cable will work great.

Thanks Peter
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post #78 of 711
9/23/09 at 2:05pm
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Originally Posted by ceenhad View Post

Hi Lon,

The Titan DVI input has no reclocking circuit as found on many consumer HDMI devices these days. As you have found this makes it super sensitive to cable quality for the longer runs you typically need.

Since we also use DVI Gear for all DPI projects (in fact we are distributors of both brands in Europe) I can share some of our test data for flawless 1080P.

You can use the SHR series without EQ for lengths up to 10m.

You can use the SHR series plus ACE EQ for lengths up to 20m.

The optical cables work flawlessly at all lengths.

One thing you may want to consider is the new 7510a Coax Extender. This offers similar performance to the optical units but uses 4 core coax (5 if you only power at the sender) as the transport layer.

Ah, This explains it I have been scratching my head on this issue..

I am ordering the 10M, SHR right now.

Thanks
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post #79 of 711
9/23/09 at 2:15pm
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Originally Posted by ceenhad View Post

Hi Lon,


One thing you may want to consider is the new 7510a Coax Extender. This offers similar performance to the optical units but uses 4 core coax (5 if you only power at the sender) as the transport layer.


That looks great as I already have 10 Belden coax cables installed, does it work as good as the Fiber optic cables?
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post #80 of 711
9/23/09 at 2:29pm
I haven't had a chance to test it over really long distances but certainly at around 20m it was perfect.

Coax has such high bandwidth potential that I am being bold and changing out every fiber cable my dealers have specified for these. Fiber can be fragile and the modulators are expensive. Coax on the other hand is cheap and robust.
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post #81 of 711
9/23/09 at 2:35pm
One more thought, what are you using for source switching down stream of the projector? An external VP?

You still get issues with chipsets not putting out enough current but this is typically not a problem with VPs just some AV processors and cheap HDMI switching products.
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post #82 of 711
9/23/09 at 2:42pm
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I am using a Lumagen Radiance XD for all sources, I couldn't find the 7510 Coax extender on the DVIGEAR website to order.

Thanks again Peter, CM and Ceenhad..
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post #83 of 711
9/25/09 at 6:39am
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I am expecting the Dvi Gear Super High Resoulution 7.5 Meter HDMI to DVI this morning, I am really crossing my fingers that this will work.

I have eliminated all other possibilities taking the Lumagen Radiance out of the chain and running my BDP-09FD direct to the Titan, I also ran my Axonix MD4 direct to make sure it was not the BDP-09FD.

The thing that has me scratching my head the most is the video noise is apparent only when outputting 1080P24 to the Titan, 1080P60 is OK without noise, this has me worried a bit as 1080P24 is less of a bandwidth strain then 1080P60.

I will know shortly by process of elimination
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post #84 of 711
9/25/09 at 7:25am
Lon,

can you elaborate on what you mean by video noise. This term can encompass all manner of issues!
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post #85 of 711
9/25/09 at 7:30am
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I tried to take a picture of it but it did not come out, it looks like waves of white lines, almost like a ground loop but not as steady.

The cable just arrived and I will be connected my Bluray directly to DVI pnput and set it for Direct(1080P24) I am hoping all will be fine, but I have some doubts
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post #86 of 711
9/25/09 at 10:59am
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Nope, not the cables just ran brand new DVIgear SHR cables direct from Bluray and at 1080P24 I am seeing terrible video noise at around 5% black.....

Not very happy now, just spent 2 days time and hundreds of $'s on cables
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post #87 of 711
9/25/09 at 11:25am
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Same Bluray playe,r same cables, 1080P60 output is fine
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post #88 of 711
9/25/09 at 11:51am
Which blu ray player are you using? What content are you using to check for noise?

Also, and this is very important and I wished I had checked on the video noise before, you do know that the projector has independent settings for 24P and 60P?

First thing I would do next is make sure that the settings you see in the projector picture menu are the same for 60P and 24P.
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post #89 of 711
9/25/09 at 11:54am
Ceenhad, it is your fault for recomending a copper substitute ,.

The whole benefit of the fiber optic cable is to decouple any electrical interference. Frankly I would not do a SuperKontrast with any other cable but a fiber optic. Not that they won't work, but the fiber gives you peace of mind.
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post #90 of 711
9/25/09 at 12:29pm
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Originally Posted by ceenhad View Post

Which blu ray player are you using? What content are you using to check for noise?

Also, and this is very important and I wished I had checked on the video noise before, you do know that the projector has independent settings for 24P and 60P?

First thing I would do next is make sure that the settings you see in the projector picture menu are the same for 60P and 24P.

Yes I know I have presets for various resolutions that isn't the issue nor the bluray player I tried Axonix Media SErber, PIoneer BDP-09FD, and Sony BDPs1....
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