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Catalyst 9.7 Released

post #1 of 48
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ATI Catalystâ„¢ version 9.7 downloads

- A newly designed ATI Catalyst Control Center for Windows 7
post #2 of 48
still no fix for HDMI audio in 9.7. the same 2 channel b.s. shows up
I can't say I'm excited about the new interface since it doesn't add functionality.

In case you're curious here are the Release Notes
post #3 of 48
Odd, I click on the link and is shows 9.6.
post #4 of 48
Has the display manager been added for Win7?
post #5 of 48
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Originally Posted by vladd View Post

Has the display manager been added for Win7?

Yes (I haven't tried it yet though).
post #6 of 48
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Originally Posted by H8nXTC View Post

Odd, I click on the link and is shows 9.6.

Right now "Full Catalyst Software Suite" for Windows 7 and Vista only.

Individual/Optional/Motherboard/XP drivers will be added later (tomorrow?).
post #7 of 48
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

Yes (I haven't tried it yet though).

Great, thanks. In the middle of a fresh Vista install. Tomorrow is the fresh Win7 install, so I'll check it out then.
post #8 of 48
Biggest UI changes for a long time.

Solved few extended mode problems I got.

So far so good.
post #9 of 48
Did they get rid of the scaling function? I don't see it anymore.
post #10 of 48
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Originally Posted by JonnySak View Post

Did they get rid of the scaling function? I don't see it anymore.

It's still there, go to "Desktops and Displays" right click in your monitor icon and click in Configure.
post #11 of 48
Thanks, I was right clicking on the monitor image above the ones on the bottom.
post #12 of 48
I'd say color me underwhelmed, but pissed is more accurate. This is absolute crap. To even find the scaling option requires a decoder ring. To find it and have it disabled on a 4670 is Bullsh*t. To have that and massive default overscanning? I can't even get to the taskbar.

I was annoyed that FIOS was going to render my MSI Diva useless. Now? I think they may be doing me a favor. This is a really bad joke. I'd say more, but I need to rollback the driver ASAP.
Failure - jaw dropping, stunning, incompetent failure.

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Originally Posted by juaniquillo View Post

It's still there, go to "Desktops and Displays" right click in your monitor icon and click in Configure.
post #13 of 48
^^


Currently running CCC V9.2

If it works, don't fix it...
post #14 of 48
Did they keep the horrific new UI that was in the leaked 9.7? I believe Satan, after trying out the leaked drivers, created a tenth circle of hell specifically for the day when whoever designed that UI enters...
post #15 of 48
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Originally Posted by merzbow View Post

did they keep the horrific new ui that was in the leaked 9.7? I believe satan, after trying out the leaked drivers, created a tenth circle of hell specifically for the day when whoever designed that ui enters...

:d
post #16 of 48
Hello
As for Cat9,7, a bug of the YC extension is not recovered in BD playback..
Is there any good method?
I use TMT2 and PowerDVD9Ultra.
VGA is HD4870.
There is not a problem in Cat9,4.
Yours sincerely,
post #17 of 48
9.7 With 780G HD3200 Onboard Report:

All good!

Vector Adaptive with VMR9, Aero OFF, under Vista SP2, works for DVD's. (AERO ON will disable all but Weave/Bob).
HD-DVD Playback is good under PowerDVD8 with Reloaded 3.0
MKV's, Xvids alll good, since I use FFDShow for that.
Still tearing of the image without AERO ON, I get around this by using VMR9 Renderless Exclusive under Media Portal, and for whatever reason PowerDVD has never had the tearing problem.

Overall very stable, though I think the new GUI is more difficult to use and an unnecessary change anyway.
post #18 of 48
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Originally Posted by JonnySak View Post

Did they get rid of the scaling function? I don't see it anymore.

It's not easy to find 'Confiure a display' that includes important display settings:

- Attributes
- Avivo Color
- Scaling Options (Every user using HDTV needs to adjust this option first!)
- HDTV Supports
- LCD Overdrive
- Pixel Format

That should be included in the pull-down menu for easy access. And removing the navigation pane is a very bad idea, IMO.


LL
post #19 of 48
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Originally Posted by Ingram View Post

9.7 With 780G HD3200 Onboard Report:

All good!

Vector Adaptive with VMR9, Aero OFF, under Vista SP2, works for DVD's. (AERO ON will disable all but Weave/Bob).
HD-DVD Playback is good under PowerDVD8 with Reloaded 3.0
MKV's, Xvids alll good, since I use FFDShow for that.
Still tearing of the image without AERO ON, I get around this by using VMR9 Renderless Exclusive under Media Portal, and for whatever reason PowerDVD has never had the tearing problem.

Did you run Cheese Slices? Being able to select Vector adaptive in CCC does not necessarily mean that it is actually working.
post #20 of 48
No I haven't yet, just comparing a DVD I have that would flicker madly under XP because it would only be Bob'ed, but under Vista it's being deinterlaced but isn't flickering madly, so I assume it's using something better than bob, either way it's good enough for me, just might not be VA, I should check it I guess :P

If I turn AERO on then the DVD flickers madly again because of it being only Bob'ed.

EDIT: I just ran the PAL DVD test, there isn't any obvious parts of the DVD to show if VA is working, I just had to look at the TV and compare it to the screen shots on my laptop. From what I can tell though it does look as good as the VA screen caps.

I'm pretty happy with this, I nearly went out and bought a new video card so I'd get VA for my interlaced PAL dvds. Now I don't have to
post #21 of 48
I am glad Display Manager is back for Windows 7 but I must agree that the new CCC interface seems designed to trick and confuse. I NEVER would have found out how to access scaling and pixel format options had someone not posted it here. Horrendously bad design. I am tempted to uninstall CCC and reinstall the older version with the new drivers.
post #22 of 48
I can confirm that VA deinterlacing and DXVA works for the HD4550, Cat 9.7, and Vista, though Aero must be _off_. This was confirmed using the Cheese Slices clip and other H.264, VC1, and MPEG-2 clips. I finally had to upgrade from that 8.10 beta due to ATIKMDAG errors that seemed to be cropping up after the digital switch-over. Before the final switch was thrown I was getting all the HD channels just fine, but afterwards I could not tune into my local Fox station without a BSOD in less than a minute. The new 9.7 seems to have solved this, though I do miss Aero....
post #23 of 48
So...

I think I'm still running 9.4. I'm currently unable to use HDMI Audio so that's not a problem but is this something that's going to improve my overall video experience otherwise? Should I install 9.7 or am I better off staying where I am?

I'm looking for something that may (and I say *may*) fix my HDMI connection problem but I'm pretty sure it's a hardware thing rather than software.

Also, I understand the "if it's not broke, don't fix it" rule but I usually stay current on these types of things unless there is some reason to specifically skip the update.

At any rate, I don't mind make the move if it's gonna benefit something...I just don't want to lose functionality that I already have.
post #24 of 48
Anyone had any experience with the fix "A delay no longer occurs when resuming from sleep on some system configurations" mentioned in the release notes? Still reluctant to upgrade from 9.2 here while I've got everything mostly working.
post #25 of 48
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Originally Posted by jszei View Post

still no fix for HDMI audio in 9.7. the same 2 channel b.s. shows up
I can't say I'm excited about the new interface since it doesn't add functionality.

In case you're curious here are the Release Notes

I am not familar with the HDMI audio problem with the ATI drivers, can you fill me in. With the inbox Win7 audio driver the ATI card will only have two channels but with the ATI/Realtek driver you should be able to get multichannel out.

-Rian
post #26 of 48
How can I get this version to work with an hdmi 1366*768p, I can only seem to get 1366*768 30i ? I could use the vga or hdmi connection as long as get the best result

From all my tests it appears the hdmi 1080 30i offers the best colors and pic quality

Thks for helping

fyi current setup
card 4870
display Panasonic Th58PH10uka
post #27 of 48
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Originally Posted by mrchung View Post

I am not familar with the HDMI audio problem with the ATI drivers, can you fill me in. With the inbox Win7 audio driver the ATI card will only have two channels but with the ATI/Realtek driver you should be able to get multichannel out.

-Rian

That's the problem I'm talking about. You can't get 8 channel audio with ATI's Catalyst drivers, you must get them from Realtek. I also find that HDCP is set to No with both Catalyst and Realtek drivers. My AVR and display both support HDCP.
post #28 of 48
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Originally Posted by jszei View Post

That's the problem I'm talking about. You can't get 8 channel audio with ATI's Catalyst drivers, you must get them from Realtek. I also find that HDCP is set to No with both Catalyst and Realtek drivers. My AVR and display both support HDCP.

I see the HDCP not available with 9.5 / 4670 on Win 7. But I have no problem getting 8 channel PCM audio through HDMI with the ATI HDMI audio driver. Never installed the Realtek versions. (Same results with XP which I have dual-boot.)
post #29 of 48
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Originally Posted by jszei View Post

That's the problem I'm talking about. You can't get 8 channel audio with ATI's Catalyst drivers, you must get them from Realtek. I also find that HDCP is set to No with both Catalyst and Realtek drivers. My AVR and display both support HDCP.

My 4550 is saying the same thing, no HDCP.
post #30 of 48
4650 on XP here, these new drivers are useless for me because they produce garbage (well, actually it is a fixed image composed of random blocks of video memory, because I can see parts of the last 3D app I've run, in my case MediaPortal) as soon as anything outputting YV12 is played and YUV Mixing is enabled in VMR9 (which is needed for MediaPortal).
Strangely NV12 (DXVA) output is fine so MPEG-2, VC1 and AVC are fine but everything else can't be viewed anymore.

I was running 9.4 before, I think I'll go back to these ones and stay with them until I upgrade to 7 or some worthy new feature/fix appears in future drivers...
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