Originally Posted by Cam Man
Thank you. Very helpful. It was a good review, but the 228 and 212 are new since I last took a look at JTR. Noesis and Coaxials are different designs that are quite useful. I think the higher directivity of the 228 and 212 would be very handy in a lot of larger rooms.
As I mentinoned, my only concern is the dispersion below the crossover in the 228 when it is orientated horizontally. I've got an email into Jeff to see what I can learn about that. I wouldn't be concerned about this in the 212 since the CD/horn carry the load down to 400 Hz. A lot is going on between 400 Hz and 1 KHz in mixes (dialogue/vocals come to mind).
Right, there will be a wider dispersion below the CD/horn frequency range which is 400 HZ for the 212 and around 1000 Hz for the 228. Since you can turn the CD/horn, the dispersion should be the same regardless of whether the speaker is situated vertically or horizontally. Ok a little wider for a horizontal/center speaker but that's to be expected with a speaker on its long axis.
Now realize that upper frequencies are more directional than lower so as you go lower the dispersion shouldn't be as noticeable to a normal listener. But you don't necessarily seem like a normal listener.
Let me give you some advice that I was given in relation to the 212 vs 228. But first, this advice wouldn't be needed if you could listen to both. Barring that, it is very clear that if you are the type that might have some small doubt or regret, then skip the 228 and buy the 212. Otherwise you will always have that doubt in the back of your mind. Since I don't plan on buying speakers for the next 10-20 years, I decided to get the 212s.
Oh yeah, one more thing...people that bought early coaxials have been able to buy upgraded parts from Jeff to make an early Triple 8 (as an example) comparable to today's Triple 8 via speaker and/or crossover changes for a nominal fee. There haven't been any upgrades to the Noesis yet but this is something else to keep in mind for speakers that you might keep for a long time.