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post #1501 of 8265
2/15/10 at 6:07pm
Listened to some Les McCann tonight. These speakers are very good with music and I love them for HT. With them and the multiple subs it is down right scary at times.
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post #1502 of 8265
2/16/10 at 10:21pm
Its lives!!!! The first production Triple 12HT's:

Bracing everywhere

5 1/2" thick acoutic cotton damping


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post #1503 of 8265
2/17/10 at 4:01am
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Originally Posted by Jeff Permanian View Post

Its lives!!!! The first production Triple 12HT's:

Bracing everywhere

5 1/2" thick acoutic cotton damping



Love the naked compression driver. Makes for better speaker porn.
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post #1504 of 8265
2/17/10 at 4:50am
Jeff - are using birch plywood or MDF for the 12HT cabinets? If MDF, why did you decide to switch from birch?
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post #1505 of 8265
2/17/10 at 7:33am
He uses both, the mdf is easier to veneer and paint for home use and Birch is sprayed with the line-x coating for durability and strenght
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post #1506 of 8265
2/17/10 at 8:15am
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Originally Posted by jpterry View Post

Jeff - are using birch plywood or MDF for the 12HT cabinets? If MDF, why did you decide to switch from birch?

I noticed that also.
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post #1507 of 8265
2/17/10 at 10:35am
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Jeff - are using birch plywood or MDF for the 12HT cabinets? If MDF, why did you decide to switch from birch?

jpterry, Here is everything in place and calibrated. Picture is overexposed. otherwise it is too dark to see anything.
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System sounds great.
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post #1508 of 8265
2/17/10 at 11:48am
So i just noticed that on the website the Triple 8 is listed at 49lbs while the triple 8 HT is listed as 75 lbs. and the HT is larger by .25" in 1 dimension, does that mean that the triple 8 HT's are also made of MDF? being that it is so much heavier? Thanks
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post #1509 of 8265
2/17/10 at 11:49am
Mike - everything looks great! How are you enjoying the JTRs compared to the Klipsch? Music vs Movies? Were you surprised by the weight? They are built like tanks.
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post #1510 of 8265
2/17/10 at 12:09pm
Shipping sucks. Is it just cosmetic? Can you still try it out? I would if I could.
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post #1511 of 8265
2/17/10 at 12:37pm
That looks like someone left it in a puddle of water for a long time.
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post #1512 of 8265
2/17/10 at 1:05pm
I don't see any water marks on the box, I would bet a bad drop.....hopefully everything will work properly.
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post #1513 of 8265
2/17/10 at 1:07pm
Ouch! Looks like a BIG drop. Core material does look odd, if not from wet, maybe from shock/vibration??
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post #1514 of 8265
2/17/10 at 1:42pm
that foam doesnt look like the dense stuff you would see from other companies? is that the standard home insulation foam you would find at home depot?
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post #1515 of 8265
2/17/10 at 2:42pm
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Mike - everything looks great! How are you enjoying the JTRs compared to the Klipsch? Music vs Movies? Were you surprised by the weight? They are built like tanks.

I am getting a lot more out of the T8's, but of course I am able to run a lot more wattage through them. The Klipsch RB-35's even though bookshelf speakers did provide a large sound since I cross everything to the subs at 100hz, but the T8's are just more of everything. Musical instruments sound more like musical instruments and the imaging is very good. As to the weight, I actually thought that they would be heavier. Birch is a lot lighter than MDF though. I have an old pair of Yamaha NS-690 III's http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...o/DSCN0833.jpg (not mine, but I do still have the 810 amp also in the pic) that are similar in size and they make the T8's feel light.
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post #1516 of 8265
2/17/10 at 2:45pm
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that foam doesnt look like the dense stuff you would see from other companies? is that the standard home insulation foam you would find at home depot?

It is 1" R-5 rigid insulation. pretty good stuff. The speaker took a hard drop right on the corner. Hope the drivers are okay. I would be worried about a loose magnet or bent basket. Push on the cones (evenly) and see if there is any rubbing.
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post #1517 of 8265
2/17/10 at 3:04pm
It looks like water because of how soft it looks, but it also looks squished.
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post #1518 of 8265
2/17/10 at 3:34pm
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Dear lord this is above my level of comfort. You need to take the sub apart to get to the woofer

I will guarantee you that it is from being dropped and not from water damage. You need to notify the shipping company ASAP. Don't even take it out of the box unless Jeff tells you to. You can clearly see where the foam insulation was compressed from the hit. Also the corner of the box is torn open. To check the driver for rubbing you do not take it out. You just press evenly on both sides of the cone to see if it is rubbing.

If you are present when a package is delivered, you should have the driver note any and all damage shown on the box. I can also guarantee you that the driver knows that that box took a hard fall even if he did not do it. I have shipped and mostly received 1,000's of items and have seen that type of damage often.
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post #1519 of 8265
2/17/10 at 4:30pm
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I will guarantee you that it is from being dropped and not from water damage. You need to notify the shipping company ASAP. Don't even take it out of the box unless Jeff tells you to. You can clearly see where the foam insulation was compressed from the hit. Also the corner of the box is torn open. To check the driver for rubbing you do not take it out. You just press evenly on both sides of the cone to see if it is rubbing.

If you are present when a package is delivered, you should have the driver note any and all damage shown on the box. I can also guarantee you that the driver knows that that box took a hard fall even if he did not do it. I have shipped and mostly received 1,000's of items and have seen that type of damage often.


+1. You shouldn't have signed for that. It needs to go back. That kind of shipping damage is unacceptable. The shipper needs to pay for that.
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post #1520 of 8265
2/17/10 at 6:32pm
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Originally Posted by goonstopher View Post

You CANT access the woofer without taking it apart. The woofer is inside of the box, it is a bandpass design.

Jeff said he thinks it will be ok from those pictures but I am obviously a bit more concerned. I am sure he will send another woofer if there is a problem.

Sorry, I am not familiar with the Captivator. Did not realize that it was a band pass design.
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post #1521 of 8265
2/17/10 at 8:32pm
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You CANT access the woofer without taking it apart. The woofer is inside of the box, it is a bandpass design.

Jeff said he thinks it will be ok from those pictures but I am obviously a bit more concerned. I am sure he will send another woofer if there is a problem.

Sorry to hear about the shape your captivator arrived in, hopefully it's nothing serious and only cosmetic.

But just a question, you say you can't access the woofer as it's inside the box, however looking at the picture on the jtr site the woofer seems like it can be easily accessed ... sorry if it's a dumb question but am I missing something here? http://jtrspeakers.com/home-audio/captivator/
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post #1522 of 8265
2/17/10 at 8:34pm
That is not the woofer it is the passive radiator
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post #1523 of 8265
2/17/10 at 8:57pm
goon,

The driver is wright behind the passive radiator, if you remove it you should see the driver.
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post #1524 of 8265
2/17/10 at 9:00pm
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That is not the woofer it is the passive radiator

Ah ok gotcha, thanks.
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post #1525 of 8265
2/18/10 at 3:35pm
Oh was the UPS driver NOT happy with me today. These Triple 12's are huge. Good news is that 7 speakers went out today and hoping another 7 go tomorrow.
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post #1526 of 8265
2/18/10 at 3:50pm
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Oh was the UPS driver NOT happy with me today. These Triple 12's are huge. Good news is that 7 speakers went out today and hoping another 7 go tomorrow.

Jeff - can you measure the dimensions of the T12HT box so I can make sure they will fit in my SUV? Thx!
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post #1527 of 8265
2/18/10 at 4:59pm
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Jeff - can you measure the dimensions of the T12HT box so I can make sure they will fit in my SUV? Thx!

46" x 21" x 20" and 120lbs

three unboxed will fit in my VW Golf, moving plankets required.
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post #1528 of 8265
2/19/10 at 11:47am
Hi Jeff, any news on my three Q8s?

--Manny
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post #1529 of 8265
2/19/10 at 12:47pm
Has anyone gotten the new T-12's yet? What do you think? I should have mine Monday or Tuesday.
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post #1530 of 8265
2/19/10 at 6:25pm
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Originally Posted by dave98svt View Post

Has anyone gotten the new T-12's yet? What do you think? I should have mine Monday or Tuesday.

Me too. Its a race. I'm hoping mine show up in Jackson MS tuesday.
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