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post #3481 of 8265
12/3/11 at 3:54pm
I got my 3 sealed Triple 8s last Saturday and have given them a decent test drive this past week. This is my 5th LCR setup in the past 2 years (Paradigm Studio, Emotiva, B&W CT 700 series, PSB CHS) and it is by far my favorite. It feels great to just enjoy my speakers instead of having weaknesses I couldn't help but notice every time I watched something. Guess I saved the best for last. Had I known about JTR at the beginning of this quest I could have saved some money, but I have them now so I'm stoked. I really like these speakers, they sound different than anything I've tried. My room really feels like a theater now.

My ears had to get used to crossing over at a higher number as according to my Anthem ARC these speakers start to roll off above 100Hz in my room. I moved them around, in and out of the cabinet they are in, and the rolloff stayed about the same. I do have two JL F113s though, and they seem to be able to cover that area up to 115Hz adequately. I don't notice any localization as the subs are equidistant between the mains and center. It all sounds awesome.

Enough cannot be said about the dynamics of these JTRs, and you don't have to be listening at reference to hear it. I don't listen all that loud, but with most of my old speakers I had to crank it for them to sound their best. These speakers have that same sweet spot, but it shows up at more moderate volumes which is really cool and most beneficial to me.

Very happy customer. Jeff is a nice guy and easy to deal with.
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post #3482 of 8265
12/3/11 at 4:18pm
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I got my 3 sealed Triple 8s last Saturday and have given them a decent test drive this past week. This is my 5th LCR setup in the past 2 years (Paradigm Studio, Emotiva, B&W CT 700 series, PSB CHS) and it is by far my favorite. It feels great to just enjoy my speakers instead of having weaknesses I couldn't help but notice every time I watched something. Guess I saved the best for last. Had I known about JTR at the beginning of this quest I could have saved some money, but I have them now so I'm stoked. I really like these speakers, they sound different than anything I've tried. My room really feels like a theater now.

My ears had to get used to crossing over at a higher number as according to my Anthem ARC these speakers start to roll off above 100Hz in my room. I moved them around, in and out of the cabinet they are in, and the rolloff stayed about the same. I do have two JL F113s though, and they seem to be able to cover that area up to 115Hz adequately. I don't notice any localization as the subs are equidistant between the mains and center. It all sounds awesome.

Enough cannot be said about the dynamics of these JTRs, and you don't have to be listening at reference to hear it. I don't listen all that loud, but with most of my old speakers I had to crank it for them to sound their best. These speakers have that same sweet spot, but it shows up at more moderate volumes which is really cool and most beneficial to me.

Very happy customer. Jeff is a nice guy and easy to deal with.

congrats!

what kind of sub you blending them with ?
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post #3483 of 8265
12/3/11 at 4:22pm
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congrats!

what kind of sub you blending them with ?

I have two JL Audio F113s. I like that new captivator, but size is a concern for me so that's why I have Fathoms.
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post #3484 of 8265
12/3/11 at 4:47pm
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I have two JL Audio F113s. I like that new captivator, but size is a concern for me so that's why I have Fathoms.

awesome! nice set-up
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post #3485 of 8265
12/4/11 at 12:06pm
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Originally Posted by mookie b View Post

I got my 3 sealed Triple 8s last Saturday and have given them a decent test drive this past week. This is my 5th LCR setup in the past 2 years (Paradigm Studio, Emotiva, B&W CT 700 series, PSB CHS) and it is by far my favorite. It feels great to just enjoy my speakers instead of having weaknesses I couldn't help but notice every time I watched something. Guess I saved the best for last. Had I known about JTR at the beginning of this quest I could have saved some money, but I have them now so I'm stoked. I really like these speakers, they sound different than anything I've tried. My room really feels like a theater now.

My ears had to get used to crossing over at a higher number as according to my Anthem ARC these speakers start to roll off above 100Hz in my room. I moved them around, in and out of the cabinet they are in, and the rolloff stayed about the same. I do have two JL F113s though, and they seem to be able to cover that area up to 115Hz adequately. I don't notice any localization as the subs are equidistant between the mains and center. It all sounds awesome.

Enough cannot be said about the dynamics of these JTRs, and you don't have to be listening at reference to hear it. I don't listen all that loud, but with most of my old speakers I had to crank it for them to sound their best. These speakers have that same sweet spot, but it shows up at more moderate volumes which is really cool and most beneficial to me.

Very happy customer. Jeff is a nice guy and easy to deal with.

Awesome Feedback!! Congrats and sounds like a Very Sweet setup!!!
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post #3486 of 8265
12/4/11 at 12:20pm
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Originally Posted by mookie b View Post

I got my 3 sealed Triple 8s last Saturday and have given them a decent test drive this past week. This is my 5th LCR setup in the past 2 years (Paradigm Studio, Emotiva, B&W CT 700 series, PSB CHS) and it is by far my favorite. It feels great to just enjoy my speakers instead of having weaknesses I couldn't help but notice every time I watched something. Guess I saved the best for last. Had I known about JTR at the beginning of this quest I could have saved some money, but I have them now so I'm stoked. I really like these speakers, they sound different than anything I've tried. My room really feels like a theater now.

My ears had to get used to crossing over at a higher number as according to my Anthem ARC these speakers start to roll off above 100Hz in my room. I moved them around, in and out of the cabinet they are in, and the rolloff stayed about the same. I do have two JL F113s though, and they seem to be able to cover that area up to 115Hz adequately. I don't notice any localization as the subs are equidistant between the mains and center. It all sounds awesome.

Enough cannot be said about the dynamics of these JTRs, and you don't have to be listening at reference to hear it. I don't listen all that loud, but with most of my old speakers I had to crank it for them to sound their best. These speakers have that same sweet spot, but it shows up at more moderate volumes which is really cool and most beneficial to me.

Very happy customer. Jeff is a nice guy and easy to deal with.

Always great to see someone exposed to dynamic realism. Once you travel down this path, high quality/high output,...it's tough going back.


Congrats and good luck
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post #3487 of 8265
12/5/11 at 11:01am
Shipping fury today at JTR:

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post #3488 of 8265
12/5/11 at 1:45pm
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Shipping fury today at JTR:



Wow! I think one of those pallets is mine.
I can't wait!
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post #3489 of 8265
12/5/11 at 8:14pm
An honest opinion, how would something like the triple 12 compare to my klipsch rf7ii sound quality wise. I'm pretty much 50/50 music movies.
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post #3490 of 8265
12/5/11 at 11:21pm
My room dimensions 11'11" x 22'5" x 9' as shown below in red. Theater not built yet. Plan to have possibly 120 or 125" wide CIH acoustic transparent screen set up (most likely Seymour AV) with LCR behind screen. Intended use 90%+ movies, 10% TV.



I plan to have a CEDIA installer design and set up my theater with acoustic treatment in mind. I have not finalized on an installer yet but the installer I have in mind has said I can purchase my own speakers and use my older gear (Sunfire 5 x 200, Onkyo PR-SC885 SSP). I started off researching Triads but read RMK!'s thread and became very interested in JTRs.

questions:
1) has anyone ever compared the JTRs vs the Triads? any thoughts on the differences?

2) would triple 12HT for LCR be too much for my room size?

3) what is the difference between LP vs non LP?

4) thoughts on sealed vs non sealed?

5) ideal # of captivators given my room dimensions and placement? 1000 vs 4000?
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post #3491 of 8265
12/6/11 at 6:13am
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My room dimensions 11'11" x 22'5" x 9' as questions:

Make sure your installer really knows his stuff. Your room's dimensions could prove to be a bit problematic. Your room's acoustics is the single most important aspect of the HT.



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1) has anyone ever compared the JTRs vs the Triads? any thoughts on the differences?

Both are highly capable, perhaps midbass capability differences only.

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2) would triple 12HT for LCR be too much for my room size?

No

Although room size impacts things somewhat, it's more an issue of goals.



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3) what is the difference between LP vs non LP?

LP = listening position



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4) thoughts on sealed vs non sealed?

Either, if well designed and integrated would be fine. Typically, a sealed approach may be preferable because it's roll-off characteristics match the transfer function of a listening room. They're both characterized by a second order slope, so by utilizing a sealed approach (or multiple sealed), one can achieve extension into the single digits in typical residential environments. The rare free lunch instance in audio, PVG, serves the sealed subwoofer user best. With the prevalence of more and more infra-octave energy contained in contemporary sound design/soundtracks, if one's room is modestly sized, in my opinion,.... pursuing a sealed alignment is clearly the best option.


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5) ideal # of captivators given my room dimensions and placement? 1000 vs 4000?

One would likely have the capability for most listening levels. However, multiples really mitigates room acoustic issues, giving the user added flexibility in addressing modal behavior. Few techniques are as effective as a multi-sub approach at smoothing the frequency response, lessening the peaks and nulls throughout a wider listening area. The added SPL capability is merely a bonus


Good questions, good luck
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post #3492 of 8265
12/6/11 at 6:49am
L p stands for low profile if you are referring to j t r speakers
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post #3493 of 8265
12/6/11 at 7:06am
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Originally Posted by quack724 View Post

My room dimensions 11'11" x 22'5" x 9' as shown below in red. Theater not built yet. Plan to have possibly 120 or 125" wide CIH acoustic transparent screen set up (most likely Seymour AV) with LCR behind screen. Intended use 90%+ movies, 10% TV.



I plan to have a CEDIA installer design and set up my theater with acoustic treatment in mind. I have not finalized on an installer yet but the installer I have in mind has said I can purchase my own speakers and use my older gear (Sunfire 5 x 200, Onkyo PR-SC885 SSP). I started off researching Triads but read RMK!'s thread and became very interested in JTRs.

questions:
1) has anyone ever compared the JTRs vs the Triads? any thoughts on the differences?

2) would triple 12HT for LCR be too much for my room size?

3) what is the difference between LP vs non LP?

4) thoughts on sealed vs non sealed?

5) ideal # of captivators given my room dimensions and placement? 1000 vs 4000?

I agree with everything FOH said. Depending upon where in No Cal you are located, you might want to come over for a look/listen. Nothing like and in-person experience to clarify some of the subjectivity so you can set your objectives.

PM me if you want a demo ...
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post #3494 of 8265
12/6/11 at 2:18pm
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

Nothing like and in-person experience to clarify some of the subjectivity so you can set your objectives.

Absolutely! Nothing like a killer dose of subjectivity...especially in that room.
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post #3495 of 8265
12/6/11 at 2:50pm
FOH, RMK!, thebuckaman. Thank you for the reply.

RMK! PM sent !
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post #3496 of 8265
12/9/11 at 12:43pm
I saw a post a while back where someone suggested that there would be a market for sealed/LP Quintuples as many people like floorstanding speakers. Assuming that Jeff eventually offers these as an option someday, would there be any advantage(s) that Quint LP's would offer over Triple 8's other than the potential for a little more output depending on the amp you are using?

I know they also reach down a little deeper than the T8's, but I would most likely continue to cross them over at 80Hz, so I don't know if that would be of any benefit to me or not.

I currently have 3 T8's across the front and they sound great, but am always looking at the future and what my next move will be when the funds are available. I'm sure a lot of people will tell me to look at T12's rather than T8's, but the T12's are too wide for the space that I am working with, hence the reason for looking at Quints.
Thanks
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post #3497 of 8265
12/9/11 at 7:03pm
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Originally Posted by quack724 View Post

My room dimensions 11'11" x 22'5" x 9' as shown below in red. Theater not built yet. Plan to have possibly 120 or 125" wide CIH acoustic transparent screen set up (most likely Seymour AV) with LCR behind screen. Intended use 90%+ movies, 10% TV.



I plan to have a CEDIA installer design and set up my theater with acoustic treatment in mind. I have not finalized on an installer yet but the installer I have in mind has said I can purchase my own speakers and use my older gear (Sunfire 5 x 200, Onkyo PR-SC885 SSP). I started off researching Triads but read RMK!'s thread and became very interested in JTRs.

questions:
1) has anyone ever compared the JTRs vs the Triads? any thoughts on the differences?

2) would triple 12HT for LCR be too much for my room size?

3) what is the difference between LP vs non LP?

4) thoughts on sealed vs non sealed?

5) ideal # of captivators given my room dimensions and placement? 1000 vs 4000?

Go to Rob's and you will truely appreciate Jeff's work. I got some of Rob's old speakers when he upgraded and that got me hooked. Best speakers and subs I have ever had in my room. I would demo for you but it would piss my neighbors off.............lol
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post #3498 of 8265
12/9/11 at 7:38pm
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I plan to have a CEDIA installer design and set up my theater with acoustic treatment in mind. I have not finalized on an installer yet but the installer I have in mind has said I can purchase my own speakers and use my older gear (Sunfire 5 x 200, Onkyo PR-SC885 SSP). I started off researching Triads but read RMK!'s thread and became very interested in JTRs.

questions:
1) has anyone ever compared the JTRs vs the Triads? any thoughts on the differences?

Sounds like a fun project!

I checked out Triad Gold Monitors. They're great speakers. Made in the USA. Paul Scarpelli is on the forum and is a great guy. Also great are the platinum LCRs. They are not even close in price, 3-5x more than JTR. They certainly look better aesthetically than the JTRs and will go lower allowing you to use a lower crossover if you like that.

That being said I like my JTR triple 8s more. I think JTRs sound better....or to reword and clarify I like the sound of the JTRs better.
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post #3499 of 8265
12/9/11 at 9:00pm
I'm glad your liking your T8's Mookie! They really are something special once you get to experience them!
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post #3500 of 8265
12/9/11 at 9:55pm
Any of the newbies get their T12HT-LPs yet? After a clusterf*** at the border, it looks like mine are finally on the way. Not too impressed right now
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post #3501 of 8265
12/10/11 at 5:51am
I have triple 12's being delivered monday. Will let u guys know my subjective opinion. Will try to snap some photos as well. Now to find someone to help me carry them upstairs
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post #3502 of 8265
12/10/11 at 8:48am
I ordered a pair of the T12-LP's and assume they have shipped but havent heard anything yet, hope they show up next week...
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post #3503 of 8265
12/10/11 at 11:18am
Anyone using Emotiva amps with their JTRs? I am thinking of jumping on the holiday sale and getting an xpa 3 or 5 now and upgrading speakers early spring.

There has been some talk about the XPA's not being ideal for high sensitivity speakers but not everyone agrees.
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post #3504 of 8265
12/10/11 at 12:22pm
I used the XPA-5 over a year with my T-8's with no issues.

Moto
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post #3505 of 8265
12/10/11 at 12:23pm
My room is around 22 x 28 x 10' slanted ceilings, running a Denon 4311 into an EMO XPA-5 amp at 300W per Ch. into 4Ω.

Am looking for new front mains - pair for Stereo.

What would one recommend for the model UP FRONT for Mains (FL/FR) -- presently have Klipsch RF-82II's up front -- and want a Dynamic, Clear Detailed speaker with a lot of Punch w/ the Mid-Range Vocals coming through and w/o the horn shrills, but w/ the Zing and Airyness Presence on the upper end, as I have dual subs for the bottom end below 80Hz.

A speaker that we can crank some power into them, and have them be even more Clearer and Closer to the actual recording w/ accuracy.

Is that a JTR?

Recommendations Please = ?

Thanks,
Den
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post #3506 of 8265
12/10/11 at 12:24pm
I use UPA-1s and one channel of an XPA-3. Sounds good to me.

If someone has gone to something better, tell us about it! I kinda think amps are amps...
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post #3507 of 8265
12/10/11 at 1:10pm
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Originally Posted by DenPureSound View Post

My room is around 22 x 28 x 10' slanted ceilings, running a Denon 4311 into an EMO XPA-5 amp at 300W per Ch. into 4Ω.

Am looking for new front mains - pair for Stereo.

What would one recommend for the model UP FRONT for Mains (FL/FR) -- presently have Klipsch RF-82II's up front -- and want a Dynamic, Clear Detailed speaker with a lot of Punch w/ the Mid-Range Vocals coming through and w/o the horn shrills, but w/ the Zing and Airyness Presence on the upper end, as I have dual subs for the bottom end below 80Hz.

A speaker that we can crank some power into them, and have them be even more Clearer and Closer to the actual recording w/ accuracy.

Is that a JTR?

Recommendations Please = ?

Thanks,
Den

The Triple 12LP's are approx the same size as your Klipsch and would give you the vocal clarity you want plus, they will remain composed as you play as loud as you like (and a bit beyond ).
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post #3508 of 8265
12/10/11 at 1:11pm
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Anyone using Emotiva amps with their JTRs? I am thinking of jumping on the holiday sale and getting an xpa 3 or 5 now and upgrading speakers early spring.

There has been some talk about the XPA's not being ideal for high sensitivity speakers but not everyone agrees.

I ordered an XPA-3 via the holiday sale and have it setup and waiting for the JTRs to arrive. I'll be sharing impressions once I have some, but I have very limited experience with other equipment for comparison sake.
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post #3509 of 8265
12/10/11 at 1:51pm
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I ordered an XPA-3 via the holiday sale and have it setup and waiting for the JTRs to arrive. I'll be sharing impressions once I have some, but I have very limited experience with other equipment for comparison sake.

You will be VERY Happy with the XPA-3, clean power and lots of it.

What JTR's did you buy?
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post #3510 of 8265
12/10/11 at 1:53pm
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

The Triple 12LP's are approx the same size as your Klipsch and would give you the vocal clarity you want plus, they will remain composed as you play as loud as you like (and a bit beyond ).

So go with the Triple 12LP's for Front Mains and 100% MUSIC, with the Emotiva XPA-5?

What would I lose or gain over the Klipsch RF-822II front mains?

Why not just go with the Quintuples for Front Mains?

What is the diff. w/ the 12HT vs. the 12HT-LP's?
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