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Originally Posted by Ka7niq View Post

JTR are using the Eminence Coaxial Drivers, nothing "revolutionary". Here on this forum, they are using these drivers, but for surround speakers only. http://www.avsforum.com/t/1353658/budget-eminence-coaxial-surround-build
If you look at post 16 in the above thread, they do not consider this driver good enough for Music reproduction, but it is fine, for surround speaker use.
I disagree. The Eminence Coaxial Driver, if used properly, is an excellent, high efficiency driver. It is a real bargain, considering it's relatively low cost.
it is also used by Hawthorn Audio, in a well regarded commercial stereo speaker.
The problem with coaxial drivers using a horn (read the linked thread) is diffraction effects between the cone and the horn.
JTR was wise enough to mate this driver to a pair of woofers. This relieves it of the responsibility of making bass, and eliminates this potential problem.
It is very well regarded in the DIY community. The DIY community are the pickiest audiophiles of us all. The fact that they are quite fond of this driver tells me that any speaker using it is going to sound quite good.
A set of 3 of these JTR Speakers is over 3 grand. There is a lot of competition at this price point. However, there is always a market for a good sounding speaker of high efficiency.
The coaxial design almost guarantees great stereo imaging, since all sounds are emanating at the same point in space.
I own a pair of Tannoy's, and have also owned KEF Uni Q Speakers, as well as Altec 604's. All of the 3 speakers I just mentioned use a coaxial driver. There most certainly is a "Magic" to a coaxial driver that is addictive.
Doing some Google searching, it seems the Eminence Coaxial Drivers are the "poor mans Altec of today" A pair of Altec 604's will set you back nearly 1500.00!
I remember way back when, we used to use the Altec 604's with Mastering Lab Crossovers designed by Doug Sax. It was hard for some audio snobs to accept that a pair of Altec 604's in the right box would blow away many well regarded high end speakers of their day.
I would still be concerned about the resale value of these speakers, because I change gear a lot to feed my audio addiction. But everyone is not like me. Many just want a kick ass set of speakers, buy it once and be done with it.
From talking recently with my audiophile friends, and contacts in the DIY speaker building community, these should be an excellent sounding speaker of very high efficiency.
I would certainly try to hear a pair, if I were in the market for a set of 3 front speakers, I intended to keep for years.

Your concern about the resale of the JTR's is unfounded. I've been watching the classified market on JTR's for years. They hold up very well. The reason is that they are built to be virtually bulletproof as well as upgradeable. Don't loose sleep over resellability.

I'm speaking as a recently new happy owner, not a shill FYI.
post #4382 of 18689
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Originally Posted by Ka7niq

JTR are using the Eminence Coaxial Drivers, nothing "revolutionary". Here on this forum, they are using these drivers, but for surround speakers only. http://www.avsforum.com/t/1353658/budget-eminence-coaxial-surround-build
If you look at post 16 in the above thread, they do not consider this driver good enough for Music reproduction, but it is fine, for surround speaker use.
I disagree. The Eminence Coaxial Driver, if used properly, is an excellent, high efficiency driver. It is a real bargain, considering it's relatively low cost.
it is also used by Hawthorn Audio, in a well regarded commercial stereo speaker.
The problem with coaxial drivers using a horn (read the linked thread) is diffraction effects between the cone and the horn.
JTR was wise enough to mate this driver to a pair of woofers. This relieves it of the responsibility of making bass, and eliminates this potential problem.
It is very well regarded in the DIY community. The DIY community are the pickiest audiophiles of us all. The fact that they are quite fond of this driver tells me that any speaker using it is going to sound quite good.
A set of 3 of these JTR Speakers is over 3 grand. There is a lot of competition at this price point. However, there is always a market for a good sounding speaker of high efficiency.
The coaxial design almost guarantees great stereo imaging, since all sounds are emanating at the same point in space.
I own a pair of Tannoy's, and have also owned KEF Uni Q Speakers, as well as Altec 604's. All of the 3 speakers I just mentioned use a coaxial driver. There most certainly is a "Magic" to a coaxial driver that is addictive.
Doing some Google searching, it seems the Eminence Coaxial Drivers are the "poor mans Altec of today" A pair of Altec 604's will set you back nearly 1500.00!
I remember way back when, we used to use the Altec 604's with Mastering Lab Crossovers designed by Doug Sax. It was hard for some audio snobs to accept that a pair of Altec 604's in the right box would blow away many well regarded high end speakers of their day.
I would still be concerned about the resale value of these speakers, because I change gear a lot to feed my audio addiction. But everyone is not like me. Many just want a kick ass set of speakers, buy it once and be done with it.
From talking recently with my audiophile friends, and contacts in the DIY speaker building community, these should be an excellent sounding speaker of very high efficiency.
I would certainly try to hear a pair, if I were in the market for a set of 3 front speakers, I intended to keep for years.

That is me, and if you read further into the thread, you will see that after Imated the driver to the cd with a properly done crossover, that it transformed the speaker completely, just as Jeff has done with the JTR's. this is also why I harped earlier in this thread on how important a crossover is to the other overall design of ANY speaker. I am perfectly happy with my surrounds now with this designed XO, and they mix VERY well to the triple 12's up front (obviously) biggrin.gif
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Ka7niq

PLEASE,
QUIT WASTING OUR TIME.
WVchris
Edited by countryWV - 6/18/12 at 7:58am
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Originally Posted by Ka7niq View Post

Wow, I just Googled JTR Speakers for sale, and have seen quite a few people selling! I could not imagine selling some speakers I waited 3 to 4 months to get.
Here is one guy selling his. Poor Guy, he only used them 3 times confused.gif
Maybe he is married to a Beotch, who will not let them in the house ?
I REALLY hate to do this, but I'm selling my JTR Speakers. These are, without a doubt, the best speakers I've ever owned. The problem is, I'm just not using them. I've owned them for almost 2 years and I've used them 3 times......so I've decided to sell them so someone can use them as they should be used. Here's what I have and what I'm asking:
All Speakers are professional w/the Line-X textured coating. Not a mark on 'em!
1 Pair of triple 12's: $2,200 for the pair
1 Pair of triple 8's: $1,800 for the pair
4 Growlers: $800 each
I also have 2 custom built carts for the Growlers. Each cart is welded steel painted black and is on casters and holds 2 subs side-by-side. All speakers have custom made vinyl covers for them.
I would prefer to NOT ship these, but I can if I have to. Actual shipping charges would apply. I live in southern Iowa and would prefer that these be picked up. If you want all 8 speakers I'll make the deal a little sweeter, PLUS, I will meet you part-way to deliver at no extra cost.
Information and specs for the speakers can be found at www.jtrspeakers.com I hope to get pictures posted, but can send pictures of any of the speakers.
You can contact me through this forum, or e-mail me at pcdevos@iowatelecom.net.
Someone give these incredible speakers a home and give 'em some use!!! Thanks for looking!
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so what exactly was the point of you copying someones classified ad and reposting his email address without his permission?

some people just do not have the time for it, i've had my jtr speakers for 2+ years and i've used them for less then 50 times i would say. I don't have the time for it, but these speakers are in a class of their own to me and i have never heard speakers this clear before, even though i have very limited experience with other speakers, i know this set is a keeper.
post #4385 of 18689
This is hilarious. The most vocal opponent against these speakers DOESN'T EVEN OWN THEM, NOR HAS EVEN HEARD THEM.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, however the guy trying to help others "make informed decisions" is the least informed in here about these speakers.

I trust the opinions of actual owners, and there are quite a few knowledgeable owners in here. If they did not like the speakers, i'm sure they would be very vocal about it.

Go troll somewhere else.
post #4386 of 18689
Enough already. You are right. These speakers suck and everyone on this thread that says otherwise is lying and is a shill for the company. You win. Now please *Chris Farley voice* GO AWAY FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!
post #4387 of 18689
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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post

This is hilarious. The most vocal opponent against these speakers DOESN'T EVEN OWN THEM, NOR HAS EVEN HEARD THEM.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, however the guy trying to help others "make informed decisions" is the least informed in here about these speakers.
I trust the opinions of actual owners, and there are quite a few knowledgeable owners in here. If they did not like the speakers, i'm sure they would be very vocal about it.
Go troll somewhere else.

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Originally Posted by carp View Post

Enough already. You are right. These speakers suck and everyone on this thread that says otherwise is lying and is a shill for the company. You win. Now please *Chris Farley voice* GO AWAY FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!

The block user feature of the forum is very useful for situations like this.
post #4388 of 18689
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Originally Posted by Ka7niq View Post

No one person has heard every speaker made....I uncovered plenty of previously owned JTR Speakers being sold.
To say this does not concern me would be untruthful.

Obviously JTR owners don't lose any sleep over speaker measurements, which is fine by me; the important thing is they love the sound of their speakers.

But I assume you (as well as many other people) have some reservations or concerns? Maybe?biggrin.gif

It is true that speaker measurements don't mean everything.

I've seen speakers that appeared to measure great, but sounded poorly.

I've seen speakers that did not appear to measure great, but sounded a lot more impressive.

I've seen $25K speakers that measured poorly and sounded poorly.

Some folks like speakers that sound great and measure great.

Some folks only care about how the speaker sound to them.

So if you and others would like to see measurements from JTR, you might look elsewhere. biggrin.gif
post #4389 of 18689
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Originally Posted by carp View Post

*Chris Farley voice* GO AWAY FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!

I really miss Chris Farley. frown.gif
post #4390 of 18689
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Originally Posted by Ka7niq View Post

Wow, I just Googled JTR Speakers for sale, and have seen quite a few people selling! I could not imagine selling some speakers I waited 3 to 4 months to get.

I did the same search (same phrase) and only found two active sellers (at least on the first 5 pages). There were multiple links for the same seller and a lot of links for speakers sold a long time ago.

Doesn't seem like a lot to me.
post #4391 of 18689
Ka7niq, why are you posting on the JTR forum? Is it just to troll? Seems rather silly and a waste of ones time and effort.

Everyone sells speakers of every brand and price range every single day. Why are you just here posting that people sell their speakers? It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, please explain it to me so I can understand.

Oh look, people are selling their Danley and Salk speakers online! I can google that as well. And I can find many of them used, and it is not damn near impossible.
post #4392 of 18689
Trolls be trolling.
post #4393 of 18689
If you are a JTR products owner, speak about it.

If you have heard or have first hand experience with
JTR products then please speak about it.

If you have questions about JTR products or customer service
please ask.

If none of the above fits and your posts are disruptive then
STFU.

I thought the new AVSformat was supposed to purge
all the D bags.
There is at least one left
ka7niq
your posts suck
WVchris
Edited by countryWV - 8/17/12 at 10:23am
post #4394 of 18689
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Originally Posted by Ka7niq View Post

There are some really really great small Speaker Companies that sell direct on the Internet. Danley's, and the Linkwitz Orion's come to mind, as do the Salk Veracity's, and The Edgar Horns.
Just TRY to find a used one of those, it is dam near impossible. Yet, with a simple Google Search, I uncovered plenty of previously owned JTR Speakers being sold.
To say this does not concern me would be untruthful.

Since you are very new to the forum and acting like a troll I am taking what you say with a grain of salt. You are in a number of threads posting negatives about high efficiency speakers without any data to back up you words. This topic has been beaten to death and there are a number of old school people who hold dear (are stuck with the old mentality) to their brick and mortar highly overpriced speakers as well as shy away from the modern age of Internet only providers. Next you'll be posting in a thread that someone shouldn't get their speaker cable from Monoprice and that they should stick with Monster Cables.

When I was looking to switch from my Energy Veritas to a newer speaker I looked at / for both JTR and Salk speakers over a period of 6 months. When I was doing so there were a lot more Salks for sale (some avail for over a month) and a number of JTRs all of which were sold in a matter of a day or two.
post #4395 of 18689
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Originally Posted by Ka7niq View Post

No one person has heard every speaker made. I would bet serious money you have never heard of some of the speakers I own, or have owned, much less heard them.
Now, as far as actual owners of the speakers being very vocal about NOT liking them, do not hold your breath!
In fact, I am sure they would NOT be vocal about making a huge mistake, UNTIL they have sold the speakers to some other sucker.
Who wants to seriously devalue their Investment ????????
Dude, this is not my first Rodeo when it comes to all things Audio.
I well remember an Internet Sensation Speaker company on these Forums from some years back selling chit speakers for big bucks.
There was a 4 to 6 month waiting list for these speakers, and they required a non refundable deposit before they started building your pair.
In a few months, the online sales sites like AudioGon, Ebay, and several speaker and audio forums were FULL of suckers trying to sell these chit speakers.
Oh, the sellers of these "Internet Wonders" they waited 4 to 6 months for had every "excuse" in the world for selling their speakers.
"I don't use them anymore, my wife says they are too big, I am retiring to a Florida Condo and downsizing, I have lost interest in audio, we are scared they will tip over on the grandkids, my sick parents are moving in, etc, etc, etc.
There are some really really great small Speaker Companies that sell direct on the Internet. Danley's, and the Linkwitz Orion's come to mind, as do the Salk Veracity's, and The Edgar Horns.
Just TRY to find a used one of those, it is dam near impossible. Yet, with a simple Google Search, I uncovered plenty of previously owned JTR Speakers being sold.
To say this does not concern me would be untruthful.

So if its a really good speaker than people wouldnt sale it? Huh?

You have now become my source of entertainment for the day. Carry on!
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This is an all too frequent occurrence here on AVS. As a rule, I don't participate on internet forums due to this very situation. This is my hobby of choice and it is irritating to have uninformed, opinionated and anonymous posters making unfounded accusations and dragging down the level of discussion by making it about them. It is an attention getting modus operandi used by lonely and or disenfranchised types who will do/say anything to gain attention. The only recourse is to ignore them as attention is what they seek.
Edited by RMK! - 6/18/12 at 12:07pm
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

This is an all too frequent occurrence here on AVS. As a rule, I don't participate on internet forums due primarily to this very situation. This is my hobby of choice and It is very irritating to have uninformed, opinionated and anonymous posters making unfounded accusations and dragging down the level of discussion by making it about them. It is an attention getting modus operandi used by lonely and or disenfranchised types who will do/say anything to gain attention. The only recourse is to ignore them as attention is what they seek.
+1
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Originally Posted by Ka7niq View Post

I see you have the Mitsu DLP.
Me too, I have the 73 inch Mitsu
I just put a bulb in it, after 3 years (my kid falls asleep with the Mitsu on Brilliant)
I have Electro Voice Sentry III's or Infinity IL 60's for my mains that I go back and forth with, and a pair of 10 cu ft home brew corner mounted subs (they look like Klipschorn bass cabinets) using Cadence 15 inch Wild Beast Kevlar Drivers. The Subs have a Crown K2 on them (many many watts into 4 ohms)
My Onkyo HT RC 180 bit the bullet recently. I was not nuts about it. I want to get a Denon 3312 because it offers subwoofer control right from the remote, no OSD needed!
My Subs are flat down to 18 hz, and the big EV Sentry 3's will go down to 30 hz with very high efficiency.
Really, I was more a 2 channel guy, into tube amplifiers, and Horns.
But I have found my big horns and monster Subwoofers will make many unsuspecting visitors pizz their pants, or jump off the couch.
I am sure you understand:)
I need to work on my surround speakers a bit. Even with a lot of power, they just can't keep up with the Electro Voice Sentry III's.
LOL, my subwoofers, even with a Crown K2 on them, barely keep up.
Thats a killer looking home theater setup you have!

I had my Mitsu calibrated by a pro and it makes a huge difference in viewing. It also save energy and the bulb will last longer.
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

This is an all too frequent occurrence here on AVS. As a rule, I don't participate on internet forums due to this very situation. This is my hobby of choice and it is irritating to have uninformed, opinionated and anonymous posters making unfounded accusations and dragging down the level of discussion by making it about them. It is an attention getting modus operandi used by lonely and or disenfranchised types who will do/say anything to gain attention. The only recourse is to ignore them as attention is what they seek.

+10 Well said!

So true about the shadow side of human nature in general:

Those who consume their internal supply of healthy self-esteem through whatever forms of self-abuse, become ravenous for human attention, ANY FORM of human attention, negative OR positive. When I did my time in NYC, I learned to see and detect such physical trolls from a block away and engaged my "Attention-Depleted-Troll Avoidance System" to walk a path which neatly bypassed their little troll traps.
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I WANT TO REITERATE:

I didnt see where MY custom coax build was referenced originally, and I hope those that have read this thread since it was caught my last post, but under no circumstances was I underwhelmed by the performance in either design of my coaxial surround build. While using the same brand speaker as the JTR's they are NOT the same speaker, and the CD is NOT the same CD. entirely different, but definitely when done properly, mix incredibly well with the JTR's. That cheap option I built only cost $139.00 all in, that was basically $600 with wood and everything for FOUR VERY capable surround speakers, capable enough to keep up with the JTR's for surround duty.

The stock emminence crossover with the APT-50 performed second best only to the d220ti with the CUSTOM XO needed to mate it properly with the emminence driver. The driver I chose is much less efficient than those used in the JTR t12's, and id love to one day have the capability to build my own XO's so I could try some others, I just dont have the time to learn that very time-consuming part of this hobby, but one day, it will happen, and on that day I fear for my checkbook. The performance benefits of adding the d220ti CD and the custom XO in my opinion was quite worth the additional cost, but I chose to start low and end high for anyone and everyone that might be interested in doing something similar and to help appease even the modest budget. Looking at other options such as the beyma coaxial it was going to be at least DOUBLE what I put into even the fully upgraded model. I would like to still try a better mid, but I stopped to work some more on the front stage, sub setup.
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

Yes. The easiest way to see what treatments can do for your room, is to drag in heavy blankets or quilts and start covering all of the hard surfaces that you can and then listen to your system. Also pay attention to speaker placement and move the speakers temporary into better positions, especially paying attention to center speaker placement. Then listen to the system and see if the problem is better or even gone. You may not be able to live with the speakers in those positions, but you will know what is causing the problems and may be able to make some adjustments to improve the situation.

I really wish I could do treatments, but the wife will not allow it. I've tried moving the center speaker in different positions, but no improvement. Any which way, I need (want...) to get new speakers anyway, so I want one which will at least minimize the dialogue intelligibility problem, as there's not much I can do in terms of the room. I appreciate your advice though.

1) So, does dialogue seem clear with the JTR's (compared with other speakers with the same room acoustics)?

2) Also, if anyone has the quintuple, would those be relatively kid-friendly? I would prefer the sealed triple 8's or even vented ones, but on stands they may not be safe with kids.

3) Can anyone recommend a preamp with Audyssey XT32 and decent video up capabilities that is relatively cheap? I was looking at the Onkyo 818 AVR (~$1000), but was wondering if a preamp could do the same but cheaper.

4) Also, anyone know how JTR speakers compare to the Chase SHO-10 speakers for the front stage? The SHO-10 is significantly cheaper...
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Originally Posted by beezar View Post

I really wish I could do treatments, but the wife will not allow it. I've tried moving the center speaker in different positions, but no improvement. Any which way, I need (want...) to get new speakers anyway, so I want one which will at least minimize the dialogue intelligibility problem, as there's not much I can do in terms of the room. I appreciate your advice though.
1) So, does dialogue seem clear with the JTR's (compared with other speakers with the same room acoustics)?
2) Also, if anyone has the quintuple, would those be relatively kid-friendly? I would prefer the sealed triple 8's or even vented ones, but on stands they may not be safe with kids.
3) Can anyone recommend a preamp with Audyssey XT32 and decent video up capabilities that is relatively cheap? I was looking at the Onkyo 818 AVR (~$1000), but was wondering if a preamp could do the same but cheaper.
4) Also, anyone know how JTR speakers compare to the Chase SHO-10 speakers for the front stage? The SHO-10 is significantly cheaper...

Doubt you'd find anything better/value wise than the 818. It's the cheapest receiver with XT32 while the next one would be the 4311
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Originally Posted by beezar View Post

I really wish I could do treatments, but the wife will not allow it. I've tried moving the center speaker in different positions, but no improvement. Any which way, I need (want...) to get new speakers anyway, so I want one which will at least minimize the dialogue intelligibility problem, as there's not much I can do in terms of the room. I appreciate your advice though.
1) So, does dialogue seem clear with the JTR's (compared with other speakers with the same room acoustics)?
2) Also, if anyone has the quintuple, would those be relatively kid-friendly? I would prefer the sealed triple 8's or even vented ones, but on stands they may not be safe with kids.
3) Can anyone recommend a preamp with Audyssey XT32 and decent video up capabilities that is relatively cheap? I was looking at the Onkyo 818 AVR (~$1000), but was wondering if a preamp could do the same but cheaper.
4) Also, anyone know how JTR speakers compare to the Chase SHO-10 speakers for the front stage? The SHO-10 is significantly cheaper...

1 The Triple 12s and 8s are accurate and distortion free so dialogue is clear and exact.

2 Quintuples and Triple 8s vented are heavy and well built. Matte black paint is easy to touch up if need be.

3 Denon 4311 at 1200. is the best preamp you can get for the $$$$$

4 They are cheaper for a reason. My Triple 12s are an incredible value to me.

good luck

WVchris
Edited by countryWV - 6/19/12 at 4:31am
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Originally Posted by beezar View Post

I really wish I could do treatments, but the wife will not allow it. I've tried moving the center speaker in different positions, but no improvement. Any which way, I need (want...) to get new speakers anyway, so I want one which will at least minimize the dialogue intelligibility problem, as there's not much I can do in terms of the room. I appreciate your advice though.
1) So, does dialogue seem clear with the JTR's (compared with other speakers with the same room acoustics)?
2) Also, if anyone has the quintuple, would those be relatively kid-friendly? I would prefer the sealed triple 8's or even vented ones, but on stands they may not be safe with kids.
3) Can anyone recommend a preamp with Audyssey XT32 and decent video up capabilities that is relatively cheap? I was looking at the Onkyo 818 AVR (~$1000), but was wondering if a preamp could do the same but cheaper.
4) Also, anyone know how JTR speakers compare to the Chase SHO-10 speakers for the front stage? The SHO-10 is significantly cheaper...

I've heard JTR triple 12's and I demo'd the SHO-10 last summer as a center channel to see if I wanted to go SHO-10's for all speakers. The SHO-10 was very good for movies, but I didn't really like the sound for music (I usually listen to music in pro-logic ll for music). I'm not saying it was bad for music, it just didn't make me want to turn up the volume which is kind of my test for speakers (I'm not much of an audiophile and would struggle to put what I like about a speaker in fancy, flowery terms so the "does it make me want to crank it" test works for me). It sounded... too dry or lifeless or something.... that's my best attempt at describing it. That's just my impressions, there are many that would completely disagree including MK Theater I believe.

Next I tired the eD cinema 12 speakers and fell in love, they did everything the SHO-10's did for movies but sounded awesome for music too. I bought all eD speakers and never looked back. Recently I heard some JTR speakers and I thought they sounded a lot like my eD's. They weren't in the same room, but that was my impression. Effortless dynamics and not harsh at all in the treble.
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Originally Posted by beezar View Post


Can anyone recommend a preamp with Audyssey XT32 and decent video up capabilities that is relatively cheap?

The Denon AVR-4311CI is on sale.

Electronics Expo has the AVR-4311CI for $2099 - $905 off with coupon code BENSBARGAINS + $30 shipping for a total of $1224 shipped.

$1224 for a brand new authorized AVR-4311CI delivered to your front door!
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Originally Posted by AcuDefTechGuy View Post

The Denon AVR-4311CI is on sale.
Electronics Expo has the AVR-4311CI for $2099 - $905 off with coupon code BENSBARGAINS + $30 shipping for a total of $1224 shipped.
$1224 for a brand new authorized AVR-4311CI delivered to your front door!
I have a 4311 in my living room. It's a great unit and thats a great price.
post #4407 of 18689
I'm pretty sure Jeffs drivers are specially made for him. When I was changing out my crossovers I had called him and thats what he told me anyways. He said the bass drivers at least were custom just for JTR. What they may change from the stock speaker I'm not sure though.
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Originally Posted by N8DOGG View Post

I'm pretty sure Jeffs drivers are specially made for him. When I was changing out my crossovers I had called him and thats what he told me anyways. He said the bass drivers at least were custom just for JTR. What they may change from the stock speaker I'm not sure though.

I would highly question this. I do not think he could keep the prices so low if he was getting drivers custom made for him. Plus he would have to buy in such large numbers that it wouldn't be very economical.
post #4409 of 18689
Nothing with XT32 on it is cheap.
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Originally Posted by ifor View Post

I would highly question this. I do not think he could keep the prices so low if he was getting drivers custom made for him. Plus he would have to buy in such large numbers that it wouldn't be very economical.
That's what he told me. Who knows, a run of 300-500 speakers wouldn't be that bad since he uses them in EVERY speaker right? he'd use up that volume in a few months. That was for the bass drivers for the T12's not for the mid. someone should drop him and emial and ask for sure.
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