Originally Posted by carp
While I'm on the topic of speakers I have to hear... I found myself surfing for a pair of used LS-6's today. I don't want to tackle the job of assembling these, but from what I've heard from pretty much everyone that heard them they are unbelievable for music. A great sounding speaker that looks like that (love huge over the top looking speakers/subs) is something I must have... oh wait.. I wasn't going to spend any money on audio anytime soon....
Still, I can't help daydreaming about the Noesis for the front 3 for movies and a pair of LS-6's for music... and I haven't even heard either yet. I have a problem.
I am currently running the LS-6 after removal of the T12 front stage setup. The LS-6's are incredible for music, and they are so beautiful to look at
I found a local deal on them (what luck!) and just decided I had to jump on them. I am a huge sucker for new "style" speakers and I had never owned a pair of line-sources so I jumped on the opportunity. I can't say that I am sad with my decision, at all, for which I will explain further in response to WV Chris's post below. I will say however that I have not watched a single movie yet, because I have been loving the music too much. The dynamics match well to the T12's and the benefit of the line-source type setup makes the soundstage wide and yields half the drop-off in dB's as you increase in distance from the speaker. The benefit here is at 3m, where you would normally be down 6dB's, you will only be down 3. This yields a great result for my three tier seating arrangement. The more direct sound of the neosis should also yield better results for me than the standard coax, but alas, that is a ways down the road, if at all. More on all of this below.
Originally Posted by RMK!
Finally got around to watching this Bluray.
Amazing doesn't begin to describe this film and the Noesis and Orbit Shifters are the perfect combo to make this film an unforgettable experience. If you have JTR's (or a select few other speakers) and haven't seen it ... do it.
Thanks for the tip on this one Brady, it is an absolute must see and a no-brainer buy. This should be Jeff's demo room demo for the Noesis
Can't agree with you more. that opening track by Deadmau5 is one of my reference tracks for demoing speakers, it will make lower performer SCREAM in agony if you crank it, very easy to hear compression on that track. My first run of that movie was with my old pair of f-20's and the JTR's and it was truly the first time that I had to get up and yell I was so happy with my system.
Originally Posted by countryWV
I keep seeing or rather reading a Very common misconception toward T12's and JTR speakers in general. I completely understand speakers that excel in music generally are not the best choice for HT and vice-versa. people write stuff like 70% Movies + 30% Music.
I feel like my T12's do 100% Movies and Music Outstanding. They give up Nothing in music(Rock is all I listen to).
Every morning I watch a concert DVD which is both. One year later and I am still getting chills and some of the music I play over and over just becuase it sounds so Damn Good.
So what am I missing? This is the question I have to ask everytime someone brings up JTR speakers and music. It leaves me Flabbergasted (finally got a chance to use that word.)
Can any current JTR speaker owners help me out with an answer? It is confusing to me. I do not understand this seperation. I have been chalking it up as peolple do not know what they are talking about but mabey Its me (that is my usual answer) Am I just easily impressed? My T12's evoke such emotion when I listen. Guns & Roses (AFD) brings back vivid memories of high school while Slayer brings out my destructive side. When I listened on my Mythos ST's it made me want to destroy the speakers but thats not what I am referreing to. T12's crossed over at 80hz to a pair of SubM HP's like N8Dogg said " I do not listen to music without subs" !!!
What do you other JTR owners think about one vs the other vs both?
Please set me straight
I will give you one quick pointer as I have a good amount of music concert BD's, and listen to a LOT more music than I do movies, just in stereo mode. At least in my experience, and the reason why I think the LS-6 takes the cake on music listening is they don't need a sub. They play flat, (not inflated spec numbers but LEGIT measured response) to 20hz, and absolutely can CRANK as well. Even though they are slightly lesser in the sensitivity dept, their design allows as I stated above for their levels to carry better than other designs, so you dont lose as much volume the further you travel from them. What I have experienced thus far is the T12's had an exorbitant amount of output, and they still never broke a sweat in my HT room, but they HAD to be crossed to a sub. Once that happened they sound just as good as the LS-6 if not better in some parts, but it once again takes a capable and well-blended sub system to make it all be seamless. I have that, so it was not a big deal, but I digress. The key thing that I appreciate the most with the LS-6 is they can go it on their own, no need for subs, and when listening to music, they just shine on their own, and can go as hard as I want them to ( I cant manage to go much further than -5 without being uncomfortable for music).
Another point is the soundstage on the Line-source model seems so broad, and deep, it is PERFECT for music. With movies, I prefer a point-source, more locate-able sound. That is why I am constructing new theater LCR's for movie watching which will be higher sensitivity horns. So carp, I am kinda going for your dream setup. LS-6 for music, and 3 seos12/ae td12x setup for movies... Shouldn't be a bad system assuming I can find room to fit all of that...