Official JTR speaker thread - Page 189

Originally Posted by carp 

I see you are in Maryland.

Originally Posted by beastaudio 

CM9 and B&W in general is a solid choice. I will ask you to see above to what I put in bold. For this reason and this reason only, you should consider the T12's over the cm9's hands down. If you had have said "I want them to be for 70% music 30% movies and games, I would not feel quite this same way,but the benefit you will get with a high efficiency, dynamic pair of speakers such as the T12's or T8s, there truly is no comparison to the more "commercialized" offerings. With the size of your room and the listening position being over 4m away, you are going to have a VERY rough time getting those BW's to play well at reference with ANY room for dynamic peaks. Assuming you are wanting to get a sub of some sort (you'll want one in any case), the T12's are hands down a better option for you. I don't really know how to put into writing the experiences I have had with BW, Revel, and other good "musical" speakers, as they have always sounded great for music, but when it comes to movies and games, there really is only one choice for me anymore, and that is high sens, dynamic designed speakers like JTR's.

Originally Posted by purbeast 

Yeah I am in MD and most likely I would not purchase anything that I have yet to listen to prior.

Originally Posted by RMK! 

It's a big investment and a good idea to hear them first (I did). I have a forum member flying out my way on business, and we made arraignments for him to come and hear the Orbit Shifters and Noesis.
Not sure if there is anyone in your immediate proximity that has JTR's but if there is, most fellas here are more than willing to provide a demo. It's fun to share something you feel good about with a fellow enthusiast...

Originally Posted by carp 

I'm currently in the LP listening to music at very low volume levels, mostly because we were cranking so much last night and I want to take it easy on my ears. I can't believe how crystal clear everything is and how great it sounds. I just checked the meter, 67dbs. You have to be kidding me, since when would I be satisfied at 6 freakin' 7 db's? I'm not saying it sounds loud obviously, these speakers hardly ever sound "loud", I'm just amazed at the clarity at this low of a volume.
Ok, I'm sure I'm wearing people out with my never ending praise of these speakers - I'm sure eventually I'll stop posting about them as often as I have the last few days.

Originally Posted by RMK! 

Keep it coming Carp, you are the only other person out there in the world who can give testimony as to the amazing qualities these speakers possess (at least from a real time perspective ). They get better with time and they have given me a LOT of goose bump moments in my few weeks with them in play. Like you, I feel they were my best AV decision ever and as soon as I type those words, the Orbit Shifters come to mind ..
Yeah, it's all good!

Originally Posted by carp 

RMK, I have to say, I think I like these better than I would any sub - and that's coming from a complete bass head who has always told people that they should spend a lot more money on subs than on speakers. At first I thought these were right up there with the Submersives for my all time favorite addition to the room but the more I listen the more sure I am that I have a new favorite.
Really? I didn't know that none of the new batch of Noesis had been shipped out except for yours... or maybe you meant other owners are stuck at work today, haha.
- If you are still in your room - grab a meter, put on some music at 65-70 dbs and you will see what I mean.

Originally Posted by Luke Kamp 

Carp had a few of us over last night. The Noesis are the real deal!

Originally Posted by carp 


Triple 8's front 3 with single 8's as surrounds with a Cap 2 Sealed? Yeah, I'd say that's gonna sound awesome!! I know I've asked but I forgot, what is your time table on finishing your basement?

Originally Posted by Jedirun 

This is exactly what I will have. I have the T8's and S2, but still need to by the Slanted 8's.
This will probably be all I will ever need, but you guys are driving me to go for the Noesis LCR.

Originally Posted by N8DOGG 

i don't want to throw more wood on the fire but I was telling a girl at work what I was buying the Noesis and BANG.....intercourse! true story (they are gonna get so SO many chicks )

Originally Posted by N8DOGG 


i don't want to throw more wood on the fire but I was telling a girl at work what I was buying the Noesis and BANG.....intercourse! true story (they are gonna get so SO many chicks )

Originally Posted by carp 

I knew N8Dogg was buying more JTR gear when Jeff called me Nathan by mistake when I was on the phone with him yesterday.
You're going to love these man!
It's been nothing but intercourse since I told my wife I am buying these.

Originally Posted by rx-8 

And how is your lovely wife these days?

Originally Posted by N8DOGG 


She's great, shes so happy I bought the speakers, I have a hall pass until they get here !

Originally Posted by carp 

RMK, I have to say, I think I like these better than I would any sub - and that's coming from a complete bass head who has always told people that they should spend a lot more money on subs than on speakers. At first I thought these were right up there with the Submersives for my all time favorite addition to the room but the more I listen the more sure I am that I have a new favorite.
Really? I didn't know that none of the new batch of Noesis had been shipped out except for yours... or maybe you meant other owners are stuck at work today, haha.
- If you are still in your room - grab a meter, put on some music at 65-70 dbs and you will see what I mean.

Originally Posted by RMK! 

OK, last night after a turkey dinner (anyone else do that ) I had a full house in the HT. We started off with The Art of Flight and out of deference to the group, I played it at -15 MV. It was amazingly clear and still had plenty of punch. At these lower levels the resolution and detail of the Noesis CD stood out more than ever. I can't imagine anything sounding better.
I had been concentrating on reference level playback (which is also fantastic ) but they are great at all playback levels. As Luke so succinctly said they are "the real deal" ...

Originally Posted by ufokillerz 

all this noesis talk has me itching for a upgrade.

Originally Posted by carp 

I showed the Art of Flight too to all my in laws, well the first 20 minutes or so. It was sandwiched in between Brave and Madagascar 3 since there are a lot of little kids. I was around 17.5 under reference all day and it sounded great. It seemed louder because I knew many of them aren't used to loud volumes in a HT setting.
In other news, I am panicking a bit thinking I may have made the wrong decision about the Noesis and I'm hoping it's not too late to change my mind. No, no, I don't mean about buying them, I mean ported vs sealed. I've noticed that when I'm listening to music with the subs level matched with the speakers (which I normally don't do, I usually go hot) I get more and fuller bass with the subs turned off and the speakers set to large instead of small.
I'm sure I can get them to play nice with my Submersives, but wouldn't it be easier just to get sealed? The fact that Mark uses sealed speakers to go with his Submersives makes me also think that's the way to go, sealed speakers with sealed subs.
Also, I'll have more space to put the center just a big higher off the ground. The sealed Noesis is actually a bit thinner than my current eD center channel speaker but the ported is 3 inches wider, quite the difference. I left a message for Jeff, I'll see what he says - if it's too late oh well, I guess that will mean I should get ported anyway.

Originally Posted by superaaaaa 

[SIZE]5[/SIZE]OMGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My speakers have finally shipped!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was losing the plot waiting, especially after reading RMKs great feedback.
shipping was suppose to take 6 weeks, as i chose to bring them by sea (cost for shipping by air was rediculous -you could buy a Noesis for the price difference). Due to all the delays, Jeff sent by air to get them here sooner, particularly to avoid the christmas rush.
Here's the kicker - he absorbed the additional cost!
They'll now be here next week!!!!!!!!
To say that's great customer service is the biggest understatement of the decade.
Thank you Jeff!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by RMK! 

I changed my mind a couple of times on this issue myself. If I had a huge open space I would go with the vented. In my 3600^3 room, the sealed are great. Plus, they are a bit more boundry tolerent and smaller for behind the screen duty (in your case, under the screen ).
If I were you, I'd stick with the sealed...