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HaHa, not much to say. They excel at music and laugh at reference levels. Great balanced sound at any level you need. I am hoping on at least one or two evening visits over the holidays once they all arrive Carp. Hint Hint;)

I will once again say Carp and others really love their bass. I got in a few songs and movie clips in with subs balanced. I think Carp saying these are the best addition to his audio system says it all. He loves his submersives and for good reason. During movie demos we knocked the projector out of alignment several times, and during The Cabin in the Woods 29-33hz scene, board games went flying off the shelves to the floor.eek.gif We had a good laugh and overall great time.smile.gif
post #5642 of 18390
Luke, I was just thinking that I need you to come over sometime.

When I go back and forth (you know how I always tinker) between large with no sub, and small with the sub the bass sounds like there is a hole when I have the sub on so I must have some cancellation issues around the crossover level. This is with the subs calibrated flat and very little low bass. I know I can tweak this by changing the distance settings for sub on the receiver, but I have no way to measure what's going on.

Besides that, when everything is setup with the new 3 speakers I need to host a movie night. If it works for you I want to get over to your place too, I haven't been there since you got all the treatments.
post #5643 of 18390
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if the Driver in the Orbit Shifter is as good as the LMS Ultra 18 inch?
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HAHA I'm just playing. Or am I??? cool.gif
I would totally pull the trigger on any of Jeff's products at this point if I had the money. However I must stay strong and not buy anything until I get the room done otherwise I don't think it will ever get finished. I will say I do plan on using the S8's as surrounds in my room once its done. I'm still not sure about my front 3. The Noesis are SO good but the price is a tough pill for me to swallow. I was pretty happy with the T8's.

Triple 8's front 3 with single 8's as surrounds with a Cap 2 Sealed? Yeah, I'd say that's gonna sound awesome!! I know I've asked but I forgot, what is your time table on finishing your basement?

This is exactly what I will have. I have the T8's and S2, but still need to by the Slanted 8's.

This will probably be all I will ever need, but you guys are driving me to go for the Noesis LCR.
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This is exactly what I will have. I have the T8's and S2, but still need to by the Slanted 8's.
This will probably be all I will ever need, but you guys are driving me to go for the Noesis LCR.

i don't want to throw more wood on the fire but I was telling a girl at work what I was buying the Noesis and BANG.....intercourse! true story biggrin.gif (they are gonna get so SO many chicks cool.gif )
post #5646 of 18390
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i don't want to throw more wood on the fire but I was telling a girl at work what I was buying the Noesis and BANG.....intercourse! true story biggrin.gif (they are gonna get so SO many chicks cool.gif )

Uh Uh.. stop giving me ideas!
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This is exactly what I will have. I have the T8's and S2, but still need to by the Slanted 8's.
This will probably be all I will ever need, but you guys are driving me to go for the Noesis LCR.

i don't want to throw more wood on the fire but I was telling a girl at work what I was buying the Noesis and BANG.....intercourse! true story biggrin.gif (they are gonna get so SO many chicks cool.gif )

And how is your lovely wife these days? wink.gif
post #5648 of 18390
I knew N8Dogg was buying more JTR gear when Jeff called me Nathan by mistake when I was on the phone with him yesterday.

You're going to love these man! smile.gif

It's been nothing but intercourse since I told my wife I am buying these.
post #5649 of 18390
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I knew N8Dogg was buying more JTR gear when Jeff called me Nathan by mistake when I was on the phone with him yesterday.
You're going to love these man! smile.gif
It's been nothing but intercourse since I told my wife I am buying these.

O man, I almost pooped whan I read that! LOL!!!
post #5650 of 18390
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And how is your lovely wife these days? wink.gif

She's great, shes so happy I bought the speakers, I have a hall pass until they get here ! biggrin.gif
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And how is your lovely wife these days? wink.gif

She's great, shes so happy I bought the speakers, I have a hall pass until they get here ! biggrin.gif

My wife has been very understanding and excited for me when I got me new speakers, that's until I played WOTW at -10 dB. All of her dishes and good china began rattling in the cabinets. She directed a few choice comments in my direction that I won't repeat here, but let's just say she's a less understanding right now. rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by carp View Post

RMK, I have to say, I think I like these better than I would any sub - and that's coming from a complete bass head who has always told people that they should spend a lot more money on subs than on speakers. At first I thought these were right up there with the Submersives for my all time favorite addition to the room but the more I listen the more sure I am that I have a new favorite.
Really? I didn't know that none of the new batch of Noesis had been shipped out except for yours... or maybe you meant other owners are stuck at work today, haha.
- If you are still in your room - grab a meter, put on some music at 65-70 dbs and you will see what I mean. smile.gif

OK, last night after a turkey dinner (anyone else do that tongue.gif) I had a full house in the HT. We started off with The Art of Flight and out of deference to the group, I played it at -15 MV. It was amazingly clear and still had plenty of punch. At these lower levels the resolution and detail of the Noesis CD stood out more than ever. I can't imagine anything sounding better.

I had been concentrating on reference level playback (which is also fantastic biggrin.gif) but they are great at all playback levels. As Luke so succinctly said they are "the real deal" ... cool.gifcool.gif
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all this noesis talk has me itching for a upgrade.
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OK, last night after a turkey dinner (anyone else do that tongue.gif) I had a full house in the HT. We started off with The Art of Flight and out of deference to the group, I played it at -15 MV. It was amazingly clear and still had plenty of punch. At these lower levels the resolution and detail of the Noesis CD stood out more than ever. I can't imagine anything sounding better.
I had been concentrating on reference level playback (which is also fantastic biggrin.gif) but they are great at all playback levels. As Luke so succinctly said they are "the real deal" ... cool.gifcool.gif

I showed the Art of Flight too to all my in laws, well the first 20 minutes or so. It was sandwiched in between Brave and Madagascar 3 since there are a lot of little kids. I was around 17.5 under reference all day and it sounded great. It seemed louder because I knew many of them aren't used to loud volumes in a HT setting.

In other news, I am panicking a bit thinking I may have made the wrong decision about the Noesis and I'm hoping it's not too late to change my mind. No, no, I don't mean about buying them, I mean ported vs sealed. I've noticed that when I'm listening to music with the subs level matched with the speakers (which I normally don't do, I usually go hot) I get more and fuller bass with the subs turned off and the speakers set to large instead of small.

I'm sure I can get them to play nice with my Submersives, but wouldn't it be easier just to get sealed? The fact that Mark uses sealed speakers to go with his Submersives makes me also think that's the way to go, sealed speakers with sealed subs.
Also, I'll have more space to put the center just a big higher off the ground. The sealed Noesis is actually a bit thinner than my current eD center channel speaker but the ported is 3 inches wider, quite the difference. I left a message for Jeff, I'll see what he says - if it's too late oh well, I guess that will mean I should get ported anyway.
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SSSooooo anyone around the DMV area with some Triple 8 or 12's, or even one of the Captivator or Orbit Shifter sub wanna let me come over and demo it ? smile.gif
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Carp - congrats on the purchase! They are an amazing setup for sure. Someday I will have to pick up a set for myself.
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all this noesis talk has me itching for a upgrade.


Same here, though after a bit of tweaking I'm really enjoying the Triple 8's now......... They are marvelous.
post #5658 of 18390
I'm going to go crank up the system and watch Expendables II.
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Originally Posted by carp View Post

I showed the Art of Flight too to all my in laws, well the first 20 minutes or so. It was sandwiched in between Brave and Madagascar 3 since there are a lot of little kids. I was around 17.5 under reference all day and it sounded great. It seemed louder because I knew many of them aren't used to loud volumes in a HT setting.
In other news, I am panicking a bit thinking I may have made the wrong decision about the Noesis and I'm hoping it's not too late to change my mind. No, no, I don't mean about buying them, I mean ported vs sealed. I've noticed that when I'm listening to music with the subs level matched with the speakers (which I normally don't do, I usually go hot) I get more and fuller bass with the subs turned off and the speakers set to large instead of small.
I'm sure I can get them to play nice with my Submersives, but wouldn't it be easier just to get sealed? The fact that Mark uses sealed speakers to go with his Submersives makes me also think that's the way to go, sealed speakers with sealed subs.
Also, I'll have more space to put the center just a big higher off the ground. The sealed Noesis is actually a bit thinner than my current eD center channel speaker but the ported is 3 inches wider, quite the difference. I left a message for Jeff, I'll see what he says - if it's too late oh well, I guess that will mean I should get ported anyway.

I changed my mind a couple of times on this issue myself. If I had a huge open space I would go with the vented. In my 3600^3 room, the sealed are great. Plus, they are a bit more boundry tolerent and smaller for behind the screen duty (in your case, under the screen wink.gif).

If I were you, I'd stick with the sealed... smile.gif
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[SIZE]5[/SIZE]OMGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My speakers have finally shipped!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was losing the plot waiting, especially after reading RMKs great feedback.
shipping was suppose to take 6 weeks, as i chose to bring them by sea (cost for shipping by air was rediculous -you could buy a Noesis for the price difference). Due to all the delays, Jeff sent by air to get them here sooner, particularly to avoid the christmas rush.
Here's the kicker - he absorbed the additional cost!
They'll now be here next week!!!!!!!!
To say that's great customer service is the biggest understatement of the decade.
Thank you Jeff!!!!!!!!!

So superaaaaa, what is up???
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

I changed my mind a couple of times on this issue myself. If I had a huge open space I would go with the vented. In my 3600^3 room, the sealed are great. Plus, they are a bit more boundry tolerent and smaller for behind the screen duty (in your case, under the screen wink.gif).
If I were you, I'd stick with the sealed... smile.gif

I initially ordered ported so I'd need to change it, which I may. However, I did do some experimenting with the subwoofer distance settings on my Pioneer Elite and after tons of trial and error I ended up with 25 feet away instead of the 19 feet that MCACC gave me. Much better. Now when I toggle back and forth between large/no sub and small/sub on the bass is pretty equal for some music, and for more bass heavy music with lower frequencies there is of course more bass with the small/sub on settings.

Hmmm... RMK I was thinking ported since that's what I have in my room right now, but I'm thinking more and more about someday going to a false wall/AT screen setup like what you have, and if the sealed sound better closer to the wall than the ported do then maybe that is the way to go. I'm going to call Jeff Monday.
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Carp - congrats on the purchase! They are an amazing setup for sure. Someday I will have to pick up a set for myself.

Thanks Andrew, right back at you on your DIY sub setup. You made DIY look so easy for a first timer and I think that's dangerous for a guy with no skills like me to read - it gives me false hope that I could pull off something like that too. eek.gif

Am I right in assuming that you are pretty handy in general and have a garage full of nice tools?
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Thanks Andrew, right back at you on your DIY sub setup. You made DIY look so easy for a first timer and I think that's dangerous for a guy with no skills like me to read - it gives me false hope that I could pull off something like that too. eek.gif
Am I right in assuming that you are pretty handy in general and have a garage full of nice tools?

Man, I think you would surprise yourself with what you could bust out. You will never know unless you try. wink.gif

I'm slowly building both my handiness and my arsenal of tools. I mostly learn by screwing up, LOL. biggrin.gif

P.S. - Come join us in the DIY section. You might not look back. biggrin.gif
Edited by Gorilla83 - 11/24/12 at 2:35pm
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Man, I think you would surprise yourself with what you could bust out. You will never know unless you try. wink.gif
I'm slowly building both my handiness and my arsenal of tools. I mostly learn by screwing up, LOL. biggrin.gif
P.S. - Come join us in the DIY section. You might not look back. biggrin.gif

I may some day, but I have a serious lack of tools. No table saw, chop saw, or whatever kind of saw I would need, no clamps, etc.

If I ever did I would wait until one of the local guys like Luke or Jonathan did it to see first hand how the process went and how it turned out. I bet it's fun, and don't think for a second that I'm not jealous of the DIY crowd. It has to be so rewarding.
post #5665 of 18390
I'm sitting here jamming to some great music when all of a sudden I hear the sound of a commercial playing. WTH??? Finally I realize it's an add here on AVS forum. Well, that sucks, I play all my music off of the computer and the forum window is often left open as well. Craptastic. I don't want to have to always make sure the forum website is closed when listening to music.

Ugh. mad.gif
post #5666 of 18390
I do the same, never had a commercial pop up yet though. At least you didn't have audiogon site open and have it turn into a european lesbian website. (see recent posts on Triad owners thread)
post #5667 of 18390
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Originally Posted by carp View Post

I initially ordered ported so I'd need to change it, which I may. However, I did do some experimenting with the subwoofer distance settings on my Pioneer Elite and after tons of trial and error I ended up with 25 feet away instead of the 19 feet that MCACC gave me. Much better. Now when I toggle back and forth between large/no sub and small/sub on the bass is pretty equal for some music, and for more bass heavy music with lower frequencies there is of course more bass with the small/sub on settings.
Hmmm... RMK I was thinking ported since that's what I have in my room right now, but I'm thinking more and more about someday going to a false wall/AT screen setup like what you have, and if the sealed sound better closer to the wall than the ported do then maybe that is the way to go. I'm going to call Jeff Monday.

Since you have heard the ported and like them, that is a safe call. I'd call Jeff tomorrow as he's probably working through the weekend. That seems SOP for him. At least he is doing what he loves. smile.gif
Edited by RMK! - 11/24/12 at 9:29pm
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Hmmm... RMK I was thinking ported since that's what I have in my room right now, but I'm thinking more and more about someday going to a false wall/AT screen setup like what you have, and if the sealed sound better closer to the wall than the ported do then maybe that is the way to go. I'm going to call Jeff Monday.

I was thinking the same thing when I was ordering mine. I really wanted ported at first but changed my mind after thinking about a false wall and all the same stuff you are. In the end Jeff said the sealed would be the way to go in my case, so done and done cool.gif Hopefully they are shipping out this week, I ordered stands as well and my Q8s still hasn't shipped although it was supposed to at the start of last week frown.gif
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Hmmm... RMK I was thinking ported since that's what I have in my room right now, but I'm thinking more and more about someday going to a false wall/AT screen setup like what you have, and if the sealed sound better closer to the wall than the ported do then maybe that is the way to go. I'm going to call Jeff Monday.

I wouldn't sweat this too much. I was able to get the vented triple12's sounding fantastic in my medium sized room (with a little help from Audyssey wink.gif). The vented JTR's have mid-bass to spare and if that's your thing, they are an excellent choice.
post #5670 of 18390
So you have had both ported and sealed in your room?

I'm sure you posted any differences, but that was probably back when I thought I had no interest in buying these... since I hadn't heard them yet. wink.gif
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