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11/24/12 at 12:20pm
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Carp - congrats on the purchase! They are an amazing setup for sure. Someday I will have to pick up a set for myself.

Thanks Andrew, right back at you on your DIY sub setup. You made DIY look so easy for a first timer and I think that's dangerous for a guy with no skills like me to read - it gives me false hope that I could pull off something like that too. eek.gif

Am I right in assuming that you are pretty handy in general and have a garage full of nice tools?
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post #5672 of 8265
11/24/12 at 2:25pm
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Thanks Andrew, right back at you on your DIY sub setup. You made DIY look so easy for a first timer and I think that's dangerous for a guy with no skills like me to read - it gives me false hope that I could pull off something like that too. eek.gif
Am I right in assuming that you are pretty handy in general and have a garage full of nice tools?

Man, I think you would surprise yourself with what you could bust out. You will never know unless you try. wink.gif

I'm slowly building both my handiness and my arsenal of tools. I mostly learn by screwing up, LOL. biggrin.gif

P.S. - Come join us in the DIY section. You might not look back. biggrin.gif
Edited by Gorilla83 - 11/24/12 at 2:35pm
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11/24/12 at 2:42pm
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Man, I think you would surprise yourself with what you could bust out. You will never know unless you try. wink.gif
I'm slowly building both my handiness and my arsenal of tools. I mostly learn by screwing up, LOL. biggrin.gif
P.S. - Come join us in the DIY section. You might not look back. biggrin.gif

I may some day, but I have a serious lack of tools. No table saw, chop saw, or whatever kind of saw I would need, no clamps, etc.

If I ever did I would wait until one of the local guys like Luke or Jonathan did it to see first hand how the process went and how it turned out. I bet it's fun, and don't think for a second that I'm not jealous of the DIY crowd. It has to be so rewarding.
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post #5674 of 8265
11/24/12 at 3:18pm
I'm sitting here jamming to some great music when all of a sudden I hear the sound of a commercial playing. WTH??? Finally I realize it's an add here on AVS forum. Well, that sucks, I play all my music off of the computer and the forum window is often left open as well. Craptastic. I don't want to have to always make sure the forum website is closed when listening to music.

Ugh. mad.gif
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post #5675 of 8265
11/24/12 at 3:35pm
I do the same, never had a commercial pop up yet though. At least you didn't have audiogon site open and have it turn into a european lesbian website. (see recent posts on Triad owners thread)
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11/24/12 at 9:21pm
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I initially ordered ported so I'd need to change it, which I may. However, I did do some experimenting with the subwoofer distance settings on my Pioneer Elite and after tons of trial and error I ended up with 25 feet away instead of the 19 feet that MCACC gave me. Much better. Now when I toggle back and forth between large/no sub and small/sub on the bass is pretty equal for some music, and for more bass heavy music with lower frequencies there is of course more bass with the small/sub on settings.
Hmmm... RMK I was thinking ported since that's what I have in my room right now, but I'm thinking more and more about someday going to a false wall/AT screen setup like what you have, and if the sealed sound better closer to the wall than the ported do then maybe that is the way to go. I'm going to call Jeff Monday.

Since you have heard the ported and like them, that is a safe call. I'd call Jeff tomorrow as he's probably working through the weekend. That seems SOP for him. At least he is doing what he loves. smile.gif
Edited by RMK! - 11/24/12 at 9:29pm
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11/24/12 at 10:08pm
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Hmmm... RMK I was thinking ported since that's what I have in my room right now, but I'm thinking more and more about someday going to a false wall/AT screen setup like what you have, and if the sealed sound better closer to the wall than the ported do then maybe that is the way to go. I'm going to call Jeff Monday.

I was thinking the same thing when I was ordering mine. I really wanted ported at first but changed my mind after thinking about a false wall and all the same stuff you are. In the end Jeff said the sealed would be the way to go in my case, so done and done cool.gif Hopefully they are shipping out this week, I ordered stands as well and my Q8s still hasn't shipped although it was supposed to at the start of last week frown.gif
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11/25/12 at 10:55am
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Hmmm... RMK I was thinking ported since that's what I have in my room right now, but I'm thinking more and more about someday going to a false wall/AT screen setup like what you have, and if the sealed sound better closer to the wall than the ported do then maybe that is the way to go. I'm going to call Jeff Monday.

I wouldn't sweat this too much. I was able to get the vented triple12's sounding fantastic in my medium sized room (with a little help from Audyssey wink.gif). The vented JTR's have mid-bass to spare and if that's your thing, they are an excellent choice.
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post #5679 of 8265
11/25/12 at 8:12pm
So you have had both ported and sealed in your room?

I'm sure you posted any differences, but that was probably back when I thought I had no interest in buying these... since I hadn't heard them yet. wink.gif
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post #5680 of 8265
11/25/12 at 10:28pm
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So superaaaaa, what is up???

Had a few delays with customs, and then the courier - was a very frusrating period.

But speakers are here now, so thats what counts.

Its been very busy for me the last couple of weeks, with a couple of interstate weddings as well as long hrs at work.

I want to spend more time with them and fine tune the sound, before i provide an in indepth review.

Ive never heard any of my previous speakers in the current room i'm using. The room is providing a number of acoustic challenges, which i'm trying to address - i've ordered omnimic, to help me understand what's happening in my room.
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post #5681 of 8265
11/26/12 at 7:31am
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Had a few delays with customs, and then the courier - was a very frusrating period.
But speakers are here now, so thats what counts.
Its been very busy for me the last couple of weeks, with a couple of interstate weddings as well as long hrs at work.
I want to spend more time with them and fine tune the sound, before i provide an in indepth review.
Ive never heard any of my previous speakers in the current room i'm using. The room is providing a number of acoustic challenges, which i'm trying to address - i've ordered omnimic, to help me understand what's happening in my room.

Sorry to hear bout the delays. Almost inevitable when dealing with customs and courier companies can be flaky. Keep working on the room acoustics issues as the end results will be worth it. As I plow through all of my music and movies I continue to gain appreciation for how fantastic these speakers sound.

I'm having a few guys over for a demo session next week and I'm anxious to hear their opinions.
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11/26/12 at 7:54am
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

Sorry to hear bout the delays. Almost inevitable when dealing with customs and courier companies can be flaky. Keep working on the room acoustics issues as the end results will be worth it. As I plow through all of my music and movies I continue to gain appreciation for how fantastic these speakers sound.
I'm having a few guys over for a demo session next week and I'm anxious to hear their opinions.

Oh Boy, Oh Boy.. can't wait to get mine... I hope I don't get into much customs problems... Glad to hear that more and more of you are getting the Noesis already!
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post #5683 of 8265
11/26/12 at 9:16am
Jeff told me S2 sub should ship Friday. I am picking up my T12 and T8s on Wednesday from a fellow AVS member. I just ordered some movie posters and signs to hang on the wall. Contractor started the build today and should be done in three weeks. Now the part that sucks...waiting smile.gif
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11/26/12 at 10:04am
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Jeff told me S2 sub should ship Friday. I am picking up my T12 and T8s on Wednesday from a fellow AVS member. I just ordered some movie posters and signs to hang on the wall. Contractor started the build today and should be done in three weeks. Now the part that sucks...waiting smile.gif

In this case, the anticipation is not the best part. You've got yourself a mini IMAX audio system and it will give you years of enjoyment. cool.gif
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11/26/12 at 3:16pm
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I do the same, never had a commercial pop up yet though. At least you didn't have audiogon site open and have it turn into a european lesbian website. (see recent posts on Triad owners thread)

"But honey, I was only trying to look at speaker porn.....honest!"
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post #5686 of 8265
11/26/12 at 3:39pm
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"But honey, I was only trying to look at speaker porn.....honest!"
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"But honey, I was only trying to look at speaker porn.....honest!"

Too funny. Lesbian porn is probably cheaper.
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post #5687 of 8265
11/26/12 at 8:58pm
What are you guys using for the surround with the noesis?
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post #5688 of 8265
11/26/12 at 9:16pm
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What are you guys using for the surround with the noesis?

Triple 8LP's for surrounds and Slanted 8's for surround backs and height speakers.
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post #5689 of 8265
11/27/12 at 5:02am
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Originally Posted by mac_hs10 View Post

What are you guys using for the surround with the noesis?
If possible keep it all JTR as the timbre match is VERY important. JTR speakers lack coloration and have a nuetral sound. Almost any other brand will cause a distinction between the fronts and backs. Not bad not good just different.
If seamless is the goal than anything from the Single 8's to the T12's would be a match. The Slant 8's offer a 30 degree angle making them perfect for surround and rear channel speakers.
If $$$$$ allows go JTR if not just try to get high sensitivity speakers capable of high SPL to "keep up".
Chris
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post #5690 of 8265
11/27/12 at 6:07am
I've been thinking about this too, and while my current surrounds work great it's obviously not ideal.

I don't feel like the Noesis match up with the triple 8's either, well at least not exactly. I know I'm going off of audio memory which is terrible, but when I heard the 888's I thought, "hmm those are nice, I like them better than my eD's", but the thought of upgrading NEVER even crossed my mind. I heard the 888's 2 different times in 2 different rooms, one of which was a blind speaker comparison in my own room. Neither time did I feel myself reaching for my wallet.

When I heard the Noesis... I knew I had to buy them.

Given the price difference between the Noesis and the 888's that should give you an idea of how much bigger/better of an impression the Noesis made on me. I feel like the step up from my eD's to the 888's is small, but the step up from the 888's the the Noesis is huge. Now, I'm not saying everyone will have that same impression, that's just my opinion. So, when thinking about surrounds I don't know if it's worth it to me to switch from my eD's to single 8's or triple 8's.

That said, I heard through Archaea that Jeff plans to make changes to the 2013 triple 8's so that they will have a sound that is more in common with the Noesis than the current model. If that's also the case with the single 8's, then that would be perfect so I'm going to wait and see what happens.
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11/27/12 at 6:09am
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If possible keep it all JTR as the timbre match is VERY important. JTR speakers lack coloration and have a nuetral sound. Almost any other brand will cause a distinction between the fronts and backs. Not bad not good just different.
If seamless is the goal than anything from the Single 8's to the T12's would be a match. The Slant 8's offer a 30 degree angle making them perfect for surround and rear channel speakers.
If $$$$$ allows go JTR if not just try to get high sensitivity speakers capable of high SPL to "keep up".
Chris

I wish I can afford 6 slanted 8s.
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11/27/12 at 6:21am
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I've been thinking about this too, and while my current surrounds work great it's obviously not ideal.
I don't feel like the Noesis match up with the triple 8's either, well at least not exactly. I know I'm going off of audio memory which is terrible, but when I heard the 888's I thought, "hmm those are nice, I like them better than my eD's", but the thought of upgrading NEVER even crossed my mind. I heard the 888's 2 different times in 2 different rooms, one of which was a blind speaker comparison in my own room. Neither time did I feel myself reaching for my wallet.
When I heard the Noesis... I knew I had to buy them.
Given the price difference between the Noesis and the 888's that should give you an idea of how much bigger/better of an impression the Noesis made on me. I feel like the step up from my eD's to the 888's is small, but the step up from the 888's the the Noesis is huge. Now, I'm not saying everyone will have that same impression, that's just my opinion. So, when thinking about surrounds I don't know if it's worth it to me to switch from my eD's to single 8's or triple 8's.
That said, I heard through Archaea that Jeff plans to make changes to the 2013 triple 8's so that they will have a sound that is more in common with the Noesis than the current model. If that's also the case with the single 8's, then that would be perfect so I'm going to wait and see what happens.
You have to remember when you first listened to the T8's you had different goals and expectations. You had already purchased the Ed's so there was a home court advantage and since the T8's were more $$$ the decision not to buy was much easier to make.
Now you have or will have the Noesis as your fronts. That is a 180 degree turn from your other sessions and goals.
My point is try the T8's or S8's again with your new goal in mind of using them as surrounds (not fronts) to timbre match the Noesis. I bet you will have a new found respect for them in your new system.
Chris
Edited by countryWV - 11/27/12 at 7:04am
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11/27/12 at 6:23am
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I wish I can afford 6 slanted 8s.
Hell yeah !!! me too.
The anticipation keeps things interesteting as I await the 2013 models.
Chris
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post #5694 of 8265
11/27/12 at 6:24am
Still trying to see if anyone in the DMV area has some JTR speakers I can demo! Looking to hear the Triple 8's and 12's! I'd be willing to drive up to PA as well if it's within reason!

Reply here or PM if you wanna help out!
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11/27/12 at 6:45am
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I've been thinking about this too, and while my current surrounds work great it's obviously not ideal.
I don't feel like the Noesis match up with the triple 8's either, well at least not exactly. I know I'm going off of audio memory which is terrible, but when I heard the 888's I thought, "hmm those are nice, I like them better than my eD's", but the thought of upgrading NEVER even crossed my mind. I heard the 888's 2 different times in 2 different rooms, one of which was a blind speaker comparison in my own room. Neither time did I feel myself reaching for my wallet.
When I heard the Noesis... I knew I had to buy them.
Given the price difference between the Noesis and the 888's that should give you an idea of how much bigger/better of an impression the Noesis made on me. I feel like the step up from my eD's to the 888's is small, but the step up from the 888's the the Noesis is huge. Now, I'm not saying everyone will have that same impression, that's just my opinion. So, when thinking about surrounds I don't know if it's worth it to me to switch from my eD's to single 8's or triple 8's.
That said, I heard through Archaea that Jeff plans to make changes to the 2013 triple 8's so that they will have a sound that is more in common with the Noesis than the current model. If that's also the case with the single 8's, then that would be perfect so I'm going to wait and see what happens.

It could be that since the Noesis is the first of JTR to use a Horn design, the older models no longer match up.. I am just conjecturing... could be completely off base... anyways, let's see if future developments would see any changes to the Single 8s as surrounds.. maybe they'll all be horn designs as well...
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post #5696 of 8265
11/27/12 at 8:27am
Surrounds matching LCR's remove all doubts but I have heard some very good HT's where they don't match with little if any negative effect to SQ. Multi-channel music is where any timbre issues would be most noticeable and I have to say that the Noesis match up well with the sealed T8 surrounds.

Of course, there are many here who can hear the most subtle difference be it cables, amplification or the presence of a small pyramid shaped crystal strategically placed on top of the speaker. wink.gif
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11/27/12 at 8:38am
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Of course, there are many here who can hear the most subtle difference be it cables, amplification or the presence of a small pyramid shaped crystal strategically placed on top of the speaker. wink.gif

Yeah, I'm definitely not one of those people. As of a couple weeks ago I didn't even think I had a huge preference when it came to speakers, I thought I only really cared about the bass. smile.gif

I will say though that when watching concert disks I much preferred just playing the Noesis in stereo and turning off the surrounds. When I run the all eD setup, full surround sound sounds better.
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post #5698 of 8265
11/27/12 at 9:36am
Can anyone tell me which of these speaker mounts is suitable for the Slanted 8s?

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=speaker+mount

I have to start thinking of getting everything together.
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11/27/12 at 9:51am
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

Surrounds matching LCR's remove all doubts but I have heard some very good HT's where they don't match with little if any negative effect to SQ. Multi-channel music is where any timbre issues would be most noticeable and I have to say that the Noesis match up well with the sealed T8 surrounds.
Of course, there are many here who can hear the most subtle difference be it cables, amplification or the presence of a small pyramid shaped crystal strategically placed on top of the speaker. wink.gif
Multi channel music is where my surrounds show their differences. Everything else they do great.
I rarely do 2 channel music anymore as I love the involvement of the surrounds. To me it is more realistic or life-like.
Especially when the audience starts clapping not only does it feel live but it also seams like I have good seats.
Chris
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11/27/12 at 10:43am
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Can anyone tell me which of these speaker mounts is suitable for the Slanted 8s?
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=speaker+mount
I have to start thinking of getting everything together.

I like these Axiom brackets, very sturdy and adjustable but also expensive.

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http://www.axiomaudio.com/full-metal-bracket.html
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