Originally Posted by countryWV
My first post on this forum was because of the reviews written at that GTG. I knew then that this would keep coming up over and over and over as it has for the last 6 or so months. No problems as everyone did a 100% honest review based completely on everything they heard at the meet.
You can drive a car on the rims with No tires just for fun but I would not write a review on its handling and performance. It takes tires to perform correctly. Thats a fact. So relate that to the listening to the T12's ran full range with No external crossover and No subwoofer. It was fun but noone should have wrote a review becuase it was set up for failure and every negative point or comment in the reviews was Directly related to Improper use of the design. All of us owners Know that and when points were trying to be made it got turned around and thrown back in our faces as trying to gang up and start negativety. The old "Blame the Blamer" philosophy. Fun is fun but the reviews are misleading and just Bad information all around. Those who read and do not understand this are confused and base their future thoughts and desicions on PURELY BAD INFORMATION.
All I can speak about is my own personal use with the T12's. On thier own running them full range and setting the speaker to large it sounds HARSH. Running my SubM HP'S with no speakers sound ridiculous too. But when I run them together (as the design was intended) crossing them over at 80 hz together they become Hawk and Animal forming the Road Warriors (LOD).The greatest tag team of all time.
Whatever you end up chosing enjoy as that is what matters. Take what others say with a grain of salt becuase that is them and this is your choice. Good thing is if you never hear JTR's at least you don't know what your missing !!!!
Yea I totally understand what you are saying.
When I first demo'd the Klipsch setup from a guy on this forum (popalock) and he has the RF-7 II and RC-64 II, he first played them with the sub off. We watched a movie clip of Cloverfield from his demo disc.
When I first heard it without a sub, it definitely sounded a little too "bright" for me, quite high pitched with not much bass at all. Like when gun shots fired and missles glew up, I did not "feel" anything like I want to when watching a movie. Granted, we had it LOUD which is what I wanted and is why it was brighter/high so I liked it. They sounded very clear/crisp but they definitely sounded pretty high pitched compared to other speakers I've heard. But it's good I heard them without a sub, so I could hear the speaker itself.
Then we played the same demo with his sub turned on and everything blended in nicely, although still a bit high pitched from the speakers. But that is what I have heard about Klipsch in general - you either like their brightness or you don't. I personally did enjoy it but after a while I think it may fatigue me. I'm pretty sensitive to high pitch stuff in general so that is another thing.
But don't get me wrong - it I had those in my house, I would be very happy with them. His setup sounded awesome still. It's like at this point I'm picking between 3-4 hot chicks - either way I will be alright!
I've also never heard a setup where all 3 LCR speakers are the same speaker. Up until about a month or so ago I did not even really know that it was what is recommended if possible. I always thought the center channel was just supposed to be different and smaller, but built to match. But now I have learned that most center channel specific speakers are built to "match" with specific mains because they try to use the same drivers and parts, but in a different casing. Or something like that
So that is another reason I really would like to hear a JTR setup with the same speakers in the LCR position.
The one area I REALLY REALLY like having a VERY nice clean speaker that can get right in your face is with the center channel speaker. My current setup is SEVERLY lacking in the center channel. But it was just some matching Northridge Series for my JBL set I got 10 years ago.
On another note, as far as music goes, I know I've stated that I mainly will be using this for movies/games/tv for the most part. But when I do listen to music, it isn't music with very much live instruments. What I man is I listen to more pop, hip-hop/rap, dance, spanish type of music rather than rock or very "instrument" full music.