Originally Posted by Cyneric
That lack of fatigue or high db shrill (for lack of a better word) is what I'm really after. I'm not going to lie, I'd love to take my system and push it to MY limit like RMK has from time to time but I enjoy most of my listening around or a little below reference. Perhaps this is because I don't feel comfortable with the sound I'm hearing above reference on most material. I think the lack of clarity and perceived muddiness from bipolar mains (BP30s) is what's really taking some of the impact away from movies. Dynamics, like JTRs can reproduce, are also something that I have yet to experience in an LCR.
I keep hearing people talk about turning up their systems louder and louder with new speakers and everything sounds just as clear and not fatiguing to listen to. I had previously assumed that this was directly attributable to the environment you were listening in (which I'm sure still has a huge impact) but the more I read, the more I think that moving to a speaker as capable as the T12 or neosis will reproduce the impact I've been looking for for years.
Has anyone on here heard a THT and had the chance to listen to JTR subs like the cap or OS? I'm curious if I'm still behind when it comes to my sub as well. I built the THT thinking I would at least have one component that could keep up with JTR mains but when I look at the specs of the OS or CapS2 I begin to drool and wonder what I'm missing in the bass department as well.
I had a pair of F-20's which is similar horn loaded design to the THT. I am now on dual sealed18's (Kinda like the s2) and I have to say the added content <20hz is significant. What I DO miss still is the insane amount of midbass that the horns had. I currently have quad 2226 ported to take care of that part, so once again, I am pretty happy
The THT is a great sub though, the OS or the Cap would be a slight improvement IMO.
Originally Posted by purbeast
How would you say the ones I'm demo'ing would compare to the T8's?
And are you basically saying the T12's would blow the Salks that I'm going to listen to out of the park?
And I do see what you are saying about them being great for music. From my research I've done it seems that both B&W and Salk make great speakers, but that they both really shine in more of a musical environment over the HT environment. And like you said, not that they are BAD or anything for HT, just that there are better options out there.
If you listen to movies LOUUUUUDDD as you said, I would have to say yes. The Salks, as Nuance has stated, have to work pretty hard to play at reference. At that point you are going to see a lot of cone breakup on the mid, and the tweet will be screaming. Will it still sound better than what most are used to? Yes, but you run a speaker too hard like that for a long time, then POOF.
Originally Posted by countryWV
Asheville has been getting alot of good shows over the past several years. I know it is a Hippie magnet for Phish.
I do not go to hippie shows because I like my music and concerts with a healthy side of Violence !!!
Killswitch Engage tonight! InFlames and All Shall Perish February, Clutch day after Christmas, you said it brother, we are getting quite well known for the metal scene. Also, not all of us are hipnies!!!!
Originally Posted by carp
Archaea - you remember how stressed I was at the blind GTG at my house when I was hoping so bad that the speaker I didn't like didn't end up being mine? That would be nothing compared to the stress I would feel at this GTG.
While you are laughing over there, my palms are starting to sweat over here.
Seriously.... I'm scared to hear the Salks! Tell me everything will be ok...
Since no one else did: Everything will be ok. Also, so to allow more people that want to remain unbiased and "blind" perhaps you could help with changing out the speakers, that way you would know which is which playing and you mind would automatically start drawing conclusions before you even hear a note
This is awesome, and a little closer by, I will give it strong consideration
Originally Posted by Nuance
That's not the only reason he was kicked out, but it was part of it. Dave was into hard core drugs too, so that played its role. He also regularly picked fights with the band members, and he kicked Hetfield's dog while drunk one day. His temper and drug use is what got him booted.
Like I said in the Salk forum, then go with the JTR's. The Salk's won't do reference levels without strain. They aren't designed for that.
Hetfield shouldn't have had a dog to begin with. Lol, just kidding. Regardless, the move created two unique bands with two unique sounds and let everyone's creative juices really shine.