Originally Posted by RMK!
You haven't tasted this forbidden fruit Stay Puft Man ...
Haha, no, not yet good sir
I can say with utmost confidence though, should I manage to sell all this other stuff I have laying around, I should be pretty close to where I need to be for a LCR, but once again, I want to see how my DIY design fairs first...
Originally Posted by countryWV
In the intersest of moving forward it seems we need to clear things up by finding a fact we all agree on. Any JTR speaker NEEDS very little power to drive them to reference I agree and thats a fact.
If a owners goal is to drive their system to reference level on as little power as possible then of coarse JTR speakers HE designs offer a great oppertunity. almost no power will get them there.
I did not buy T12's to see how little I could "get by with" I bought them to try to "get the most" out of them. They are 2 different goals No right No wrong just different ends of the spectrum. If an owner wants to run them on an AVR or even T-amp and is satisfied with the results then that is great. It sure would make things alot easier and a whole lot less expensive all while taking up less space and even using less electricity. I have never read anything that objects to that at all.
What about the owners who are trying to get 'the absolute most " out of their system? This is were it becomes unclear to me of what your true point is and why you tied your above comment to that thread becuaes to me it seemed to be a different discussion. What do you suggest? Am I truly wasting my time , money ,and all effort by powering my system with an external amp? I understand your statement "you need relatively little power to drive the Noesis to reference" as you said that is a fact. What is the next step? For me it becomes CLARITY at reference not just SPL at reference. I have already accomplished the goal of hitting reference so now my goal is to make it sound its best at this level.
Any thoughtful suggestions you can give on how to make mine or any system sound better at reference is greatly appreciated. If there is a better way please point me in that direction.
Here is one direction you could go, I just got the EQ this weekend, but I am REALLY looking forward to dialing my setup in even further
Originally Posted by carp
Those of us that are going to be at David's GTG, should we try a blind test between a receiver and a powerful amp? I have yet to read about anyone actually trying this with a blind test, cold be very interesting.... could also open a big a** can of worms!!
I like that idea a whole lot, and it should be obvious which is which if you run them hard enough. The switch Nu refers to would be killer, but $$$. My suggestion would be to run them both at a level where you know the distortion levels are going to be close, or not at all yet, and see what you get. Reference should be close to ok, even with the 4311, but I would say start at -10 or -15 and work your way up switching between the two until most people should start to hear the difference. Doing this test ahead of time might yield some good expectations for those that are NOT going to be blind.