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post #6091 of 18548
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Originally Posted by coolgeek View Post

Great stuff. I too am thinking of getting the sony hw50. Could you try to project it onto your screen and zoom out until it's like 160 inches diagonal and then see if the brightness is still watchable? I am looking to buy as large a screen as is possible with this projector.

This is my first projector so I am a novice. Pretty sure the picture size is partially determined by the throw. I have mine around 15 feet from the screen but moving it back, to say 20 feet, would let it display a much larger image than I could. So I can tell you what mine can do when I check it tonight, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be larger or smaller depending on where you mount it in your room.
post #6092 of 18548
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Originally Posted by coolgeek View Post

Great stuff. I too am thinking of getting the sony hw50. Could you try to project it onto your screen and zoom out until it's like 160 inches diagonal and then see if the brightness is still watchable? I am looking to buy as large a screen as is possible with this projector.

Have you used the calculator at Projector Central? That should tell you everything you need to know. smile.gif
post #6093 of 18548
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Originally Posted by Frohlich View Post

This is my first projector so I am a novice. Pretty sure the picture size is partially determined by the throw. I have mine around 15 feet from the screen but moving it back, to say 20 feet, would let it display a much larger image than I could. So I can tell you what mine can do when I check it tonight, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be larger or smaller depending on where you mount it in your room.

If it's not too much trouble, do let me know what you think of it at those bigger sizes.... Since I'll have no way to view it first before I get it, I'll have to rely on many people's own opinions.


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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

Have you used the calculator at Projector Central? That should tell you everything you need to know. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Frohlich View Post

This is my first projector so I am a novice. Pretty sure the picture size is partially determined by the throw. I have mine around 15 feet from the screen but moving it back, to say 20 feet, would let it display a much larger image than I could. So I can tell you what mine can do when I check it tonight, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be larger or smaller depending on where you mount it in your room.

Ah, actually I have indeed. They said 150 for 2D and 100 or 110 for 3D. I just wanted to see what others who actually owns the projector thinks since this is so subjective. If I am not mistaken, the projector central uses an algorithm based on total lumens output... may not be taking into consideration the contrast, their RC, etc. For instance, a projector with higher contrast may look better at lower lumens than one with poor contrast but has higher lumens output...

That's how I actually decided to get the JTRs without being able to listen to them first.. I have been lurking here for quite a while and reading everyone's opinion on them (for more than a year now)... and especially your's RMK.. hehe.. you are indeed very eloquent in your reviews and say all the right things and I just HAVE to have it!
post #6094 of 18548
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Originally Posted by coolgeek View Post

If it's not too much trouble, do let me know what you think of it at those bigger sizes.... Since I'll have no way to view it first before I get it, I'll have to rely on many people's own opinions.
Ah, actually I have indeed. They said 150 for 2D and 100 or 110 for 3D. I just wanted to see what others who actually owns the projector thinks since this is so subjective. If I am not mistaken, the projector central uses an algorithm based on total lumens output... may not be taking into consideration the contrast, their RC, etc. For instance, a projector with higher contrast may look better at lower lumens than one with poor contrast but has higher lumens output...
That's how I actually decided to get the JTRs without being able to listen to them first.. I have been lurking here for quite a while and reading everyone's opinion on them (for more than a year now)... and especially your's RMK.. hehe.. you are indeed very eloquent in your reviews and say all the right things and I just HAVE to have it!

Eloquent am I ... confused.gif

Well, it's very kind of you to say so. I actually did see the Sony HW50 on a huge screen (like 180" diag) doing 3D for a short demo in a non-light controlled room and it looked good. Seems to be a light canon (at least compared to my JVC RS35). My recommendation with screens is like speakers, go for the IMAX effect (i.e. BIG). biggrin.gifwink.gif
post #6095 of 18548
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

Eloquent am I ... confused.gif
Well, it's very kind of you to say so. I actually did see the Sony HW50 on a huge screen (like 180" diag) doing 3D for a short demo in a non-light controlled room and it looked good. Seems to be a light canon (at least compared to my JVC RS35). My recommendation with screens is like speakers, go for the IMAX effect (i.e. BIG). biggrin.gifwink.gif

Gotcha! I want as big as I can get! I have only seen the Sony on a 106 screen in Singapore for a brief moment and it blew me away... it's like watching a 4K projector (when RC was turned on).

Did you know the gain on the screen you were watching it on?
post #6096 of 18548
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Originally Posted by coolgeek View Post

If it's not too much trouble, do let me know what you think of it at those bigger sizes.... Since I'll have no way to view it first before I get it, I'll have to rely on many people's own opinions.
Ah, actually I have indeed. They said 150 for 2D and 100 or 110 for 3D. I just wanted to see what others who actually owns the projector thinks since this is so subjective. If I am not mistaken, the projector central uses an algorithm based on total lumens output... may not be taking into consideration the contrast, their RC, etc. For instance, a projector with higher contrast may look better at lower lumens than one with poor contrast but has higher lumens output...
That's how I actually decided to get the JTRs without being able to listen to them first.. I have been lurking here for quite a while and reading everyone's opinion on them (for more than a year now)... and especially your's RMK.. hehe.. you are indeed very eloquent in your reviews and say all the right things and I just HAVE to have it!

I am really leaning towards going the route you went with the JTR's without hearing them first, as nobody around Maryland seems to have any to demo.

Which ones did you end up buying blindly, and could you let me know your thoughts on the speakers, considering that you had never heard them before you purchased them?
post #6097 of 18548
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Originally Posted by coolgeek View Post

Gotcha! I want as big as I can get! I have only seen the Sony on a 106 screen in Singapore for a brief moment and it blew me away... it's like watching a 4K projector (when RC was turned on).
Did you know the gain on the screen you were watching it on?

It was the Enlightor 4K from Seymour AV. Huge screen and I actually saw 4K 3D content on it (incredible depth and resolution). I had not been very impressed with 3D until that demo. The glasses are still the big turnoff for me...
post #6098 of 18548
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Originally Posted by purbeast View Post

I am really leaning towards going the route you went with the JTR's without hearing them first, as nobody around Maryland seems to have any to demo.
Which ones did you end up buying blindly, and could you let me know your thoughts on the speakers, considering that you had never heard them before you purchased them?

Haha.. Actually I STILL haven't heard them. I just ordered them and waiting for them to be delivered.

I got LCR (Noesis), and 4 Slanted 8s, and an Orbit Shifter, to create a 7.1 true HD surround system. I am pretty stoked I did it. No regrets whatsoever, even though I still haven't gotten them yet. After more than a year lurking around, I think I have made the right decision.

Over the years, I always knew I am missing something, that oomph! you get when you're in a real cinema, compared to your own 'home theater' system. And now, I actually know what it is.. dynamics, large soundstage, and reference level at listening position that only a pro driver (high efficiency) speaker can deliver, and of course gobbles and gobbles of clean bass (which perhaps only a Horn Sub can deliver). And it appears JTR does just that...
post #6099 of 18548
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Originally Posted by coolgeek View Post

Haha.. Actually I STILL haven't heard them. I just ordered them and waiting for them to be delivered.
I got LCR (Noesis), and 4 Slanted 8s, and an Orbit Shifter, to create a 7.1 true HD surround system. I am pretty stoked I did it. No regrets whatsoever, even though I still haven't gotten them yet. After more than a year lurking around, I think I have made the right decision.
Over the years, I always knew I am missing something, that oomph! you get when you're in a real cinema, compared to your own 'home theater' system. And now, I actually know what it is.. dynamics, large soundstage, and reference level at listening position that only a pro driver (high efficiency) speaker can deliver, and of course gobbles and gobbles of clean bass (which perhaps only a Horn Sub can deliver). And it appears JTR does just that...

Haha okay gotcha.

My goal too is to make my home sound as close to a theater as possible. With my current setup, it is totally missing that "oomph" you talk about. It just doesn't have that loud crisp in your face feel to it that a theater does, where you feel and hear everything. So I'm hoping with my purchase I can get that at home, regardless of which way I go. I'm leaning towards JTR though, but I have been for quite some time now. I think I'm still holding out a little hope I can find someone local to demo them, but I'm also trying to wait and see if I get a holiday bonus and how much it is because that will help me purchase them smile.gif
post #6100 of 18548
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

It was the Enlightor 4K from Seymour AV. Huge screen and I actually saw 4K 3D content on it (incredible depth and resolution). I had not been very impressed with 3D until that demo. The glasses are still the big turnoff for me...
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Originally Posted by coolgeek View Post

Gotcha! I want as big as I can get! I have only seen the Sony on a 106 screen in Singapore for a brief moment and it blew me away... it's like watching a 4K projector (when RC was turned on).
Did you know the gain on the screen you were watching it on?

I am going to get the Center Stage. Did you actually meant the Sony 1000? Because I think that's the 4K projector. The 50 is only 2K (but with RC turned on, it sure looks like 4K to me). I too have seen the 1000 4k projector but it looked a little soft to me (probably because they used a super huge screen and the material they were playing were some dark forest).
post #6101 of 18548
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Originally Posted by coolgeek View Post

I am going to get the Center Stage. Did you actually meant the Sony 1000? Because I think that's the 4K projector. The 50 is only 2K (but with RC turned on, it sure looks like 4K to me). I too have seen the 1000 4k projector but it looked a little soft to me (probably because they used a super huge screen and the material they were playing were some dark forest).

You are correct re the Sony's but it was a JVC that was doing the 4K. He had actual 4K content on his PC that he showed and that is what I was referring to in my post. Sorry for not being clear.

The Sony HW50 was very nice for the spend and I thought it did a nice job of lighting up that big screen in the non-bat cave room. smile.gif


BTW, I am confident that you will be very happy with the JTR components in fact, I'll eat my hat (small edible variety tongue.gif) if you don't ... cool.gif
Edited by RMK! - 12/13/12 at 5:54pm
post #6102 of 18548
I had the Sony 1000 for a few weeks. I had a friend in Boston who works for some drug company, won it in some raffle. He's stinking rich so he let me buy it for 10K (new was almost 20K) brand new in the box. I used it for a few weeks found that on my 108" screen, it was was overkill for 10K. I sold it for 19K cdn and hung my panny 7000 back up. it was awesome, 4K looked as you think it would, amazing!. He knew I was likely going to sell it and was totally fine with it. Was an experience but IMO, not worth 20K thats for sure.
post #6103 of 18548
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Originally Posted by N8DOGG View Post

I had the Sony 1000 for a few weeks. I had a friend in Boston who works for some drug company, won it in some raffle. He's stinking rich so he let me buy it for 10K (new was almost 20K) brand new in the box. I used it for a few weeks found that on my 108" screen, it was was overkill for 10K. I sold it for 19K cdn and hung my panny 7000 back up. it was awesome, 4K looked as you think it would, amazing!. He knew I was likely going to sell it and was totally fine with it. Was an experience but IMO, not worth 20K thats for sure.

Is it worth 10K ? Hope to own a used one in couple years.
post #6104 of 18548
for 10k? I'd say yes for sure. I couldn't pass up the chance to make 9K for doing nothing though. i'd imagine by the time 4K really gets it's heels dug in, the 1000 will be a relic.
post #6105 of 18548
Alrighty boys, the new room is 95% done. Thank you all for your help, recommendations and insight as I was going through the process. Here are a couple of pictures of my new JTR speakers in the man cave:

Full thread with all pictures:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1445271/frohlichs-new-home-theater-his-man-cave-and-her-not-so-man-cave



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looks awesome. Love the bar in back with a great view of the screen. Yo deserve this, afterall it is a very tough year for Buckeye fans!
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That is a sweet looking room. We're contemplating putting a bar behind our seating area similar to how you have yours, but if we do that we can't put a pool table back there due to room. Probably gonna go the pool table route eventually.

Is that center a T8? If so I didn't realize they were that the T12's are that much larger lol!
post #6108 of 18548
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Originally Posted by purbeast View Post

That is a sweet looking room. We're contemplating putting a bar behind our seating area similar to how you have yours, but if we do that we can't put a pool table back there due to room. Probably gonna go the pool table route eventually.
Is that center a T8? If so I didn't realize they were that the T12's are that much larger lol!

Yes, the center and surrounds are all triple 8s...which are not small speakers themselves. The triple 12s are large marge eek.gifsmile.gif
post #6109 of 18548
The sealed T12's are tiny ... tongue.gif

Nice looking room Frohlich ... cool.gif
post #6110 of 18548
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Originally Posted by purbeast View Post

That is a sweet looking room. We're contemplating putting a bar behind our seating area similar to how you have yours, but if we do that we can't put a pool table back there due to room. Probably gonna go the pool table route eventually.
Is that center a T8? If so I didn't realize they were that the T12's are that much larger lol!

i told you they were pretty big. However i feel they look larger in photos than they actually are
this post has a pic of people standing next to them to get a good size comparison

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1165099/official-jtr-speaker-thread/5300_100#post_22568696
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It's not that the T12's are too big, I juts didn't realize they were that much larger than the T8's. Maybe it is that the T8's are smaller than what I thought they would be.

I'm going to be up in Thornton, PA tomorrow picking up my subs (dual JTR Caps), anyone around Thornton, PA wanna demo their T12's or T8's?

LOL worth a try!
post #6112 of 18548
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Originally Posted by lbrown105 View Post

Yo deserve this, afterall it is a very tough year for Buckeye fans!
You got that right. smile.gif At least the future is bright !!! wink.gif
Chris

Frohlic
Nice Room. You are set.smile.gif
post #6113 of 18548
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You are set.

Eh, I like symmetry, and I think you should probably work on getting that second S2 to round out the front stage. It will just look better. heheh.
post #6114 of 18548
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Originally Posted by beastaudio View Post

Eh, I like symmetry, and I think you should probably work on getting that second S2 to round out the front stage. It will just look better. heheh.

I have a space ready for second S2 ....just need to catch a breather with all the spending my wife and I have done moving into the new house. She had several appts with Pottery Barn that were equally damaging as my HT addiction mad.gifeek.gifsmile.gif
post #6115 of 18548
Better than her going to Restoration Hardware though you can get a damn comfy couch there.
post #6116 of 18548
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Originally Posted by Frohlich View Post

She had several appts with Pottery Barn that were equally damaging as my HT addiction mad.gifeek.gifsmile.gif
Damn that Pottery Barn. They take alot of my intended audio $$$$ too. While I'm at it Screw Pier One Imports!!
Chris
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Originally Posted by mrlittlejeans View Post

Better than her going to Restoration Hardware though you can get a damn comfy couch there.

We actually bought a few things there but mostly Pottery Barn, then Crate and Barrel then Restoration Hardware....that is my wife's order of preference. They are all literally a mile from my house at Kenwood Mall (Cincinnati) mad.gifmad.gifmad.giftongue.gif

To top it off I got home last night from work and there are two Pottery Barn employees from their design center walking around the house giving her ideas. WTF!!!! eek.gif
post #6118 of 18548
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Originally Posted by countryWV View Post

Damn that Pottery Barn. They take alot of my intended audio $$$$ too. While I'm at it Screw Pier One Imports!!
Chris

We have one close but my wife doesn't shop there much....I think she is tired after hitting all the other stores and just doesn't have the energy left eek.gifsmile.gif
post #6119 of 18548
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Originally Posted by Frohlich View Post


To top it off I got home last night from work and there are two Pottery Barn employees from their design center walking around the house giving her ideas. WTF!!!! eek.gif

That's really bad. You need to max out all cards on HT equipment to stop her from spending more.
post #6120 of 18548
Jeff sent me an email today saying he's been pretty sick for the last week. Said my speakers are done and are going out on Monday. I'd imagine that means a bunch of others as well.
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