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Can't really go down in the basement and work yet since the carpet guys are still finishing up. Itching to get projector screen up and work on fixing my ground loop hum. I will say this, the S2 is a man's subwoofer. Just unpacked it from the crate and carried it downstairs. Thing saw my blu ray collection, saw my new "art of flight" blu ray and laughed at me...pretty sure it said bring it on. Sure looks like a BEAST!!!!eek.gifsmile.gif
post #6092 of 8265
Thanks fellows
Are there any scenarios that don't end with me being electrocuted?eek.gif I have to be honest I could probably use a couple volts just to teach me a lesson and keep me straight.smile.gif
Calling Dishnetwork just shot to the top of my priority list.
Thanks for the sudden anxiety attack. wink.gif
Chris
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Originally Posted by Frohlich View Post

Can't really go down in the basement and work yet since the carpet guys are still finishing up. Itching to get projector screen up and work on fixing my ground loop hum. I will say this, the S2 is a man's subwoofer. Just unpacked it from the crate and carried it downstairs. Thing saw my blu ray collection, saw my new "art of flight" blu ray and laughed at me...pretty sure it said bring it on. Sure looks like a BEAST!!!!eek.gifsmile.gif

I will be pretty free tonight so feel free to give me a call if you need some help running through setting that gain structure or working through some of the options I suggested.

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Thanks fellows
Are there any scenarios that don't end with me being electrocuted?eek.gif I have to be honest I could probably use a couple volts just to teach me a lesson and keep me straight.smile.gif
Calling Dishnetwork just shot to the top of my priority list.
Thanks for the sudden anxiety attack. wink.gif
Chris

Couple volts? it's gonna be a little more than that smile.gif Dish should have done it properly the first time, and if that doesnt work, try one of these out at least temporarily:

http://www.rackmount-devices.com/main.html?page=015-8700

There is a difference between a satellite one and a cable one. The one I linked to is the right one for satellite.
post #6094 of 8265
Beast
Thanks for the link. I have the one for cable and thought they did not make one for the dish. I paid $30. for it.

I got the Metallica BR today and it is by far the best concert dvd they have recording wise, I have listened to the all 26 songs between -5 and reference the whole time on the T12's and SubM HP's. This is the most pressurized my room has ever been from a Blu-Ray stadium concert DVD, Thats no joke. Even non-Metallica fans would be extremely entertained.
I would think dual OS's would have caused a nosebleed by now. This is sweet!!!
Chris
Sibuna = Metallica Quebec Came out on BR Tuesday 11th DTS -HD Master audio
Edited by countryWV - 12/13/12 at 5:24am
post #6095 of 8265
Which Metallica BR?
post #6096 of 8265
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Originally Posted by Frohlich View Post

Can't really go down in the basement and work yet since the carpet guys are still finishing up. Itching to get projector screen up and work on fixing my ground loop hum. I will say this, the S2 is a man's subwoofer. Just unpacked it from the crate and carried it downstairs. Thing saw my blu ray collection, saw my new "art of flight" blu ray and laughed at me...pretty sure it said bring it on. Sure looks like a BEAST!!!!eek.gifsmile.gif

You carried it downstairs? I hope there were 2 of you. If it was by yourself I am impressed. I didn't even attempt to carry mine. I used an appliance dolly to get it down the stairs and I am particularly strong.
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It's only 195#s...should be able to do it. Of course it's easier if your 6'3" and 250#s smile.gif...and work out lifting weights regularly
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Originally Posted by Browninggold View Post

It's only 195#s...should be able to do it. Of course it's easier if your 6'3" and 250#s smile.gif...and work out lifting weights regularly

I can get more than that over my head on a barbell, but the size and shape of the S2 makes it awkward. I would have been scared to death the whole time that I would drop it and be out $3k plus the cost to repair my house. I remain impressed by anyone who would attempt to carry one on their own.
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I wish I could offer up some great Seinfeld "feats of strength" story but my contractor helped me get the S2 down the steps. I fixed the ground loop hum...with a cheater plug (I know I need to find a long term solution but I just wanted to get everything up and running). I got the Stewart 110 screen built and mounted. Initial impressions...DADDY LIKIES!!!!!! The S2 sub and the rest of the JTR speakers exceeded my expectations so far. The Sony HW50 projector is also up there with the JTR speakers in the "exceeded expectations" department. I watched a bunch of movie clips and even played the XBOX 360 for a while. This is my 3rd HT room and the best to date. I initially had the dial on the S2 at 50% and when I first turned everything on I thought the house was going to come down. Had to dial it way back and then eventually ran Audessey on it later in the night. I have a vacation day tomorrow and the kids are at school so I smell a movie and video game fest coming on smile.gif
Edited by Frohlich - 12/13/12 at 4:01am
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Originally Posted by Frohlich View Post

I wish I could offer up some great Seinfeld "feats of strength" story but my contractor helped me get the S2 down the steps. I fixed the ground loop hum...with a cheater plug (I know I need to find a long term solution but I just wanted to get everything up and running). I got the Stewart 110 screen built and mounted. Initial impressions...DADDY LIKIES!!!!!! The S2 sub and the rest of the JTR speakers exceeded my expectations so far. The Sony HW50 projector is also up there with the JTR speakers in the "exceeded expectations" department. I watched a bunch of movie clips and even played the XBOX 360 for a while. This is my 3rd HT room and the best to date. I initially had the dial on the S2 at 50% and when I first turned everything on I thought the house was going to come down. Had to dial it way back and then eventually ran Audessey on it later in the night. I have a vacation day tomorrow and the kids are at school so I smell a movie and video game fest coming on smile.gif

Congratulations. It sounds like an awesome system.
post #6101 of 8265
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Originally Posted by Frohlich View Post

I wish I could offer up some great Seinfeld "feats of strength" story but my contractor helped me get the S2 down the steps. I fixed the ground loop hum...with a cheater plug (I know I need to find a long term solution but I just wanted to get everything up and running). I got the Stewart 110 screen built and mounted. Initial impressions...DADDY LIKIES!!!!!! The S2 sub and the rest of the JTR speakers exceeded my expectations so far. The Sony HW50 projector is also up there with the JTR speakers in the "exceeded expectations" department. I watched a bunch of movie clips and even played the XBOX 360 for a while. This is my 3rd HT room and the best to date. I initially had the dial on the S2 at 50% and when I first turned everything on I thought the house was going to come down. Had to dial it way back and then eventually ran Audessey on it later in the night. I have a vacation day tomorrow and the kids are at school so I smell a movie and video game fest coming on smile.gif

Great stuff. I too am thinking of getting the sony hw50. Could you try to project it onto your screen and zoom out until it's like 160 inches diagonal and then see if the brightness is still watchable? I am looking to buy as large a screen as is possible with this projector.
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Originally Posted by coolgeek View Post

Great stuff. I too am thinking of getting the sony hw50. Could you try to project it onto your screen and zoom out until it's like 160 inches diagonal and then see if the brightness is still watchable? I am looking to buy as large a screen as is possible with this projector.

This is my first projector so I am a novice. Pretty sure the picture size is partially determined by the throw. I have mine around 15 feet from the screen but moving it back, to say 20 feet, would let it display a much larger image than I could. So I can tell you what mine can do when I check it tonight, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be larger or smaller depending on where you mount it in your room.
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Originally Posted by coolgeek View Post

Great stuff. I too am thinking of getting the sony hw50. Could you try to project it onto your screen and zoom out until it's like 160 inches diagonal and then see if the brightness is still watchable? I am looking to buy as large a screen as is possible with this projector.

Have you used the calculator at Projector Central? That should tell you everything you need to know. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Frohlich View Post

This is my first projector so I am a novice. Pretty sure the picture size is partially determined by the throw. I have mine around 15 feet from the screen but moving it back, to say 20 feet, would let it display a much larger image than I could. So I can tell you what mine can do when I check it tonight, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be larger or smaller depending on where you mount it in your room.

If it's not too much trouble, do let me know what you think of it at those bigger sizes.... Since I'll have no way to view it first before I get it, I'll have to rely on many people's own opinions.


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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

Have you used the calculator at Projector Central? That should tell you everything you need to know. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Frohlich View Post

This is my first projector so I am a novice. Pretty sure the picture size is partially determined by the throw. I have mine around 15 feet from the screen but moving it back, to say 20 feet, would let it display a much larger image than I could. So I can tell you what mine can do when I check it tonight, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be larger or smaller depending on where you mount it in your room.

Ah, actually I have indeed. They said 150 for 2D and 100 or 110 for 3D. I just wanted to see what others who actually owns the projector thinks since this is so subjective. If I am not mistaken, the projector central uses an algorithm based on total lumens output... may not be taking into consideration the contrast, their RC, etc. For instance, a projector with higher contrast may look better at lower lumens than one with poor contrast but has higher lumens output...

That's how I actually decided to get the JTRs without being able to listen to them first.. I have been lurking here for quite a while and reading everyone's opinion on them (for more than a year now)... and especially your's RMK.. hehe.. you are indeed very eloquent in your reviews and say all the right things and I just HAVE to have it!
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Originally Posted by coolgeek View Post

If it's not too much trouble, do let me know what you think of it at those bigger sizes.... Since I'll have no way to view it first before I get it, I'll have to rely on many people's own opinions.
Ah, actually I have indeed. They said 150 for 2D and 100 or 110 for 3D. I just wanted to see what others who actually owns the projector thinks since this is so subjective. If I am not mistaken, the projector central uses an algorithm based on total lumens output... may not be taking into consideration the contrast, their RC, etc. For instance, a projector with higher contrast may look better at lower lumens than one with poor contrast but has higher lumens output...
That's how I actually decided to get the JTRs without being able to listen to them first.. I have been lurking here for quite a while and reading everyone's opinion on them (for more than a year now)... and especially your's RMK.. hehe.. you are indeed very eloquent in your reviews and say all the right things and I just HAVE to have it!

Eloquent am I ... confused.gif

Well, it's very kind of you to say so. I actually did see the Sony HW50 on a huge screen (like 180" diag) doing 3D for a short demo in a non-light controlled room and it looked good. Seems to be a light canon (at least compared to my JVC RS35). My recommendation with screens is like speakers, go for the IMAX effect (i.e. BIG). biggrin.gifwink.gif
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

Eloquent am I ... confused.gif
Well, it's very kind of you to say so. I actually did see the Sony HW50 on a huge screen (like 180" diag) doing 3D for a short demo in a non-light controlled room and it looked good. Seems to be a light canon (at least compared to my JVC RS35). My recommendation with screens is like speakers, go for the IMAX effect (i.e. BIG). biggrin.gifwink.gif

Gotcha! I want as big as I can get! I have only seen the Sony on a 106 screen in Singapore for a brief moment and it blew me away... it's like watching a 4K projector (when RC was turned on).

Did you know the gain on the screen you were watching it on?
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Originally Posted by coolgeek View Post

If it's not too much trouble, do let me know what you think of it at those bigger sizes.... Since I'll have no way to view it first before I get it, I'll have to rely on many people's own opinions.
Ah, actually I have indeed. They said 150 for 2D and 100 or 110 for 3D. I just wanted to see what others who actually owns the projector thinks since this is so subjective. If I am not mistaken, the projector central uses an algorithm based on total lumens output... may not be taking into consideration the contrast, their RC, etc. For instance, a projector with higher contrast may look better at lower lumens than one with poor contrast but has higher lumens output...
That's how I actually decided to get the JTRs without being able to listen to them first.. I have been lurking here for quite a while and reading everyone's opinion on them (for more than a year now)... and especially your's RMK.. hehe.. you are indeed very eloquent in your reviews and say all the right things and I just HAVE to have it!

I am really leaning towards going the route you went with the JTR's without hearing them first, as nobody around Maryland seems to have any to demo.

Which ones did you end up buying blindly, and could you let me know your thoughts on the speakers, considering that you had never heard them before you purchased them?
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Originally Posted by coolgeek View Post

Gotcha! I want as big as I can get! I have only seen the Sony on a 106 screen in Singapore for a brief moment and it blew me away... it's like watching a 4K projector (when RC was turned on).
Did you know the gain on the screen you were watching it on?

It was the Enlightor 4K from Seymour AV. Huge screen and I actually saw 4K 3D content on it (incredible depth and resolution). I had not been very impressed with 3D until that demo. The glasses are still the big turnoff for me...
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Originally Posted by purbeast View Post

I am really leaning towards going the route you went with the JTR's without hearing them first, as nobody around Maryland seems to have any to demo.
Which ones did you end up buying blindly, and could you let me know your thoughts on the speakers, considering that you had never heard them before you purchased them?

Haha.. Actually I STILL haven't heard them. I just ordered them and waiting for them to be delivered.

I got LCR (Noesis), and 4 Slanted 8s, and an Orbit Shifter, to create a 7.1 true HD surround system. I am pretty stoked I did it. No regrets whatsoever, even though I still haven't gotten them yet. After more than a year lurking around, I think I have made the right decision.

Over the years, I always knew I am missing something, that oomph! you get when you're in a real cinema, compared to your own 'home theater' system. And now, I actually know what it is.. dynamics, large soundstage, and reference level at listening position that only a pro driver (high efficiency) speaker can deliver, and of course gobbles and gobbles of clean bass (which perhaps only a Horn Sub can deliver). And it appears JTR does just that...
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Originally Posted by coolgeek View Post

Haha.. Actually I STILL haven't heard them. I just ordered them and waiting for them to be delivered.
I got LCR (Noesis), and 4 Slanted 8s, and an Orbit Shifter, to create a 7.1 true HD surround system. I am pretty stoked I did it. No regrets whatsoever, even though I still haven't gotten them yet. After more than a year lurking around, I think I have made the right decision.
Over the years, I always knew I am missing something, that oomph! you get when you're in a real cinema, compared to your own 'home theater' system. And now, I actually know what it is.. dynamics, large soundstage, and reference level at listening position that only a pro driver (high efficiency) speaker can deliver, and of course gobbles and gobbles of clean bass (which perhaps only a Horn Sub can deliver). And it appears JTR does just that...

Haha okay gotcha.

My goal too is to make my home sound as close to a theater as possible. With my current setup, it is totally missing that "oomph" you talk about. It just doesn't have that loud crisp in your face feel to it that a theater does, where you feel and hear everything. So I'm hoping with my purchase I can get that at home, regardless of which way I go. I'm leaning towards JTR though, but I have been for quite some time now. I think I'm still holding out a little hope I can find someone local to demo them, but I'm also trying to wait and see if I get a holiday bonus and how much it is because that will help me purchase them smile.gif
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

It was the Enlightor 4K from Seymour AV. Huge screen and I actually saw 4K 3D content on it (incredible depth and resolution). I had not been very impressed with 3D until that demo. The glasses are still the big turnoff for me...
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Originally Posted by coolgeek View Post

Gotcha! I want as big as I can get! I have only seen the Sony on a 106 screen in Singapore for a brief moment and it blew me away... it's like watching a 4K projector (when RC was turned on).
Did you know the gain on the screen you were watching it on?

I am going to get the Center Stage. Did you actually meant the Sony 1000? Because I think that's the 4K projector. The 50 is only 2K (but with RC turned on, it sure looks like 4K to me). I too have seen the 1000 4k projector but it looked a little soft to me (probably because they used a super huge screen and the material they were playing were some dark forest).
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Originally Posted by coolgeek View Post

I am going to get the Center Stage. Did you actually meant the Sony 1000? Because I think that's the 4K projector. The 50 is only 2K (but with RC turned on, it sure looks like 4K to me). I too have seen the 1000 4k projector but it looked a little soft to me (probably because they used a super huge screen and the material they were playing were some dark forest).

You are correct re the Sony's but it was a JVC that was doing the 4K. He had actual 4K content on his PC that he showed and that is what I was referring to in my post. Sorry for not being clear.

The Sony HW50 was very nice for the spend and I thought it did a nice job of lighting up that big screen in the non-bat cave room. smile.gif


BTW, I am confident that you will be very happy with the JTR components in fact, I'll eat my hat (small edible variety tongue.gif) if you don't ... cool.gif
Edited by RMK! - 12/13/12 at 5:54pm
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I had the Sony 1000 for a few weeks. I had a friend in Boston who works for some drug company, won it in some raffle. He's stinking rich so he let me buy it for 10K (new was almost 20K) brand new in the box. I used it for a few weeks found that on my 108" screen, it was was overkill for 10K. I sold it for 19K cdn and hung my panny 7000 back up. it was awesome, 4K looked as you think it would, amazing!. He knew I was likely going to sell it and was totally fine with it. Was an experience but IMO, not worth 20K thats for sure.
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Originally Posted by N8DOGG View Post

I had the Sony 1000 for a few weeks. I had a friend in Boston who works for some drug company, won it in some raffle. He's stinking rich so he let me buy it for 10K (new was almost 20K) brand new in the box. I used it for a few weeks found that on my 108" screen, it was was overkill for 10K. I sold it for 19K cdn and hung my panny 7000 back up. it was awesome, 4K looked as you think it would, amazing!. He knew I was likely going to sell it and was totally fine with it. Was an experience but IMO, not worth 20K thats for sure.

Is it worth 10K ? Hope to own a used one in couple years.
post #6115 of 8265
for 10k? I'd say yes for sure. I couldn't pass up the chance to make 9K for doing nothing though. i'd imagine by the time 4K really gets it's heels dug in, the 1000 will be a relic.
post #6116 of 8265
Alrighty boys, the new room is 95% done. Thank you all for your help, recommendations and insight as I was going through the process. Here are a couple of pictures of my new JTR speakers in the man cave:

Full thread with all pictures:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1445271/frohlichs-new-home-theater-his-man-cave-and-her-not-so-man-cave



post #6117 of 8265
looks awesome. Love the bar in back with a great view of the screen. Yo deserve this, afterall it is a very tough year for Buckeye fans!
post #6118 of 8265
That is a sweet looking room. We're contemplating putting a bar behind our seating area similar to how you have yours, but if we do that we can't put a pool table back there due to room. Probably gonna go the pool table route eventually.

Is that center a T8? If so I didn't realize they were that the T12's are that much larger lol!
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Originally Posted by purbeast View Post

That is a sweet looking room. We're contemplating putting a bar behind our seating area similar to how you have yours, but if we do that we can't put a pool table back there due to room. Probably gonna go the pool table route eventually.
Is that center a T8? If so I didn't realize they were that the T12's are that much larger lol!

Yes, the center and surrounds are all triple 8s...which are not small speakers themselves. The triple 12s are large marge eek.gifsmile.gif
post #6120 of 8265
The sealed T12's are tiny ... tongue.gif

Nice looking room Frohlich ... cool.gif
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