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post #6451 of 18704
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Originally Posted by carp View Post

Almost 1:30 AM and I can't pry myself off the couch and drag my sorry butt to bed because I can't stop listening. Tonight's playlist included Paradise Lost, Katatonia, Pantera, Type O Negative, and The Gathering. Floods by Pantera now playing, sounds great man, isn't this supposed to be a crappy recording??
-edit- NP Sepultura - Roots album. Never really liked it, especially compared to Chaos AD and even more so Arise. I'm finding myself giving it more of a chance tonight...

Great taste in music!! Im a metal head for life. Im a diehard Pantera fan and ive heard The Great Southern Trendkill to be a bad recording too but its just not the case. Crank 13 Steps to Nowhere!! Opening drums always sound great cranked.
post #6452 of 18704
OK, a little ot, but I thought that I'd give it a try here since most of you have built HT spaces. I'm finishing my basement and need some advice. They ate going to hang the drywall soon and want to know what type of insulation should go in between the cement walls and the drywall. Any suggestions? I can't wait until this is finished. I am using my 3 T8's and one capo, but the other cap and the two s8's are just sitting there, waiting. Thanks for any help.
post #6453 of 18704
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Originally Posted by hogues View Post

OK, a little ot, but I thought that I'd give it a try here since most of you have built HT spaces. I'm finishing my basement and need some advice. They ate going to hang the drywall soon and want to know what type of insulation should go in between the cement walls and the drywall. Any suggestions? I can't wait until this is finished. I am using my 3 T8's and one capo, but the other cap and the two s8's are just sitting there, waiting. Thanks for any help.

Hogues, you might get an answer here but you'll get more views on topic at the acoustic treatments master thread. Over there there are some very knowledgeable experts on acoustic treatments. good luck.
post #6454 of 18704
I calibrated my sources and found out that what I thought was reference was really around +4 to +6 depending on the source. None of this really matters that much other than the fact that now I know what reference is supposed to sound like and that the T8's are able to go beyond it without issue.
post #6455 of 18704
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Originally Posted by hogues View Post

OK, a little ot, but I thought that I'd give it a try here since most of you have built HT spaces. I'm finishing my basement and need some advice. They ate going to hang the drywall soon and want to know what type of insulation should go in between the cement walls and the drywall. Any suggestions? I can't wait until this is finished. I am using my 3 T8's and one capo, but the other cap and the two s8's are just sitting there, waiting. Thanks for any help.

lbrowns suggestion is a good one. If you're looking for construction rather than acoustic recommendations you might also try the dedicated HT Build Section as there are a lot of basement build experts there.
Edited by RMK! - 12/31/12 at 3:14pm
post #6456 of 18704
Happy new year JTR owners and friends smile.gif
post #6457 of 18704
Happy New Year fellow happy JTR owners and friends!!
post #6458 of 18704
Happy New Years to everybody on this thread. I have just spent the past four days reading through this entire thread and I feel like I might have found my next speaker setup, Three Noesis for LCR.

Currently I have a RF-7II/RC-64II setup for my LCR with RS-52II and RB-61II's for rear/surround duty. My subs are HSU VTF-15H x 2...

Had been looking at some CAT-12's since August, but these seem to be more practical for me. I already have a solid amp, TGA-7401, so I like the potential of adding these speakers to my system.

Carp's statement about buying these when he really wasn't looking to purchase a new set of speakers....made my excitement level go up that much more.

Most of my questions have been answered and I plan on contacting Jeff for more detailed information particular to my setup.

Since I have already heard the Cat-12's in action, I was going to see if anybody in the East Tennessee area might have these speakers(or other JTR speakers) available for a demo. I thought maybe I read that somebody in Asheville might have some. Since I travel quite a bit for work, I would be willing to travel several hours outside of Knoxville for a demo....

Thanks again for any input and I look forward to posting more. biggrin.gif
post #6459 of 18704
That WAS me. I had a pair of the Triple12's and a triple8 for a center. Absolutely wonderful speakers, and it might not be that long before I have the Noesis back in smile.gif I am building out some DIY horns right now to try out, and for the time being I have a pair of ls6's that are absolutely superb as well, just a totally different type of speaker tho. Sorry you missed out by about a month on hearing them, I would have been more than happy to let you demo!!!
post #6460 of 18704
What is the coverage pattern of the Noesis?
post #6461 of 18704
Bummer... Did you happen to sell those to a forum member from Cincinnati?
post #6462 of 18704
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Originally Posted by Dbuudo07 View Post

What is the coverage pattern of the Noesis?

It's a 60/40 horn.
post #6463 of 18704
yup :-)
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Originally Posted by COACH2369 View Post

Bummer... Did you happen to sell those to a forum member from Cincinnati?
post #6464 of 18704
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

It's a 60/40 horn.

Thanks RMK!
post #6465 of 18704
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Originally Posted by Frohlich View Post

yup :-)

I was thinking that was the case...

My wife and I are making another trip up to Cincinnat at the end of this month because our Christmas trip was cut short due to the weather....maybe I could persuade you to allow a demo..biggrin.gif
post #6466 of 18704
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Originally Posted by COACH2369 View Post

I was thinking that was the case...
My wife and I are making another trip up to Cincinnat at the end of this month because our Christmas trip was cut short due to the weather....maybe I could persuade you to allow a demo..biggrin.gif

Sure thing. Might even have the second S2 by then. Just drop me a PM when the time gets closer and we will coordinate schedules.
post #6467 of 18704
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Originally Posted by Frohlich View Post

Sure thing. Might even have the second S2 by then. Just drop me a PM when the time gets closer and we will coordinate schedules.

I just finished looking at the specs on those S2's... WOW, that thing is big and would make my VTF-15H look "small"..

Definitely will let you know as the time gets closer.

Thanks,
post #6468 of 18704
Just when I get caught up on this thread....it slows WAY down. Guess that is a good thing because it must mean everybody is too busy listening to their JTR setups. biggrin.gif
post #6469 of 18704
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Originally Posted by COACH2369 View Post

Just when I get caught up on this thread....it slows WAY down. Guess that is a good thing because it must mean everybody is too busy listening to their JTR setups. biggrin.gif

I won't lie that is exactly why I've come here less and less! I've just been enjoying them for the time being until I can get my surrounds. I don't really have much new to add or anything.

But I did have a NYE party and showed my room/setup to about 30 people and they were all blown away by it. I put on Saving Private Ryan for about 6 people and 3 of them had to get up before the opening scene ended because they were getting too into it and didn't want to get too sucked into a movie at a NYE party.
post #6470 of 18704
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Originally Posted by purbeast View Post

I won't lie that is exactly why I've come here less and less! I've just been enjoying them for the time being until I can get my surrounds. I don't really have much new to add or anything.
But I did have a NYE party and showed my room/setup to about 30 people and they were all blown away by it. I put on Saving Private Ryan for about 6 people and 3 of them had to get up before the opening scene ended because they were getting too into it and didn't want to get too sucked into a movie at a NYE party.

Reading a post like this, makes me feel even more confident that JTR is the right fit for my upgrade. biggrin.gif

What kind of surround are you going with? I am hoping to stick with my Klipsch surrounds(RS-52II and RB-61II) until I can upgrade them to JTR's.
post #6471 of 18704
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Originally Posted by purbeast View Post

I won't lie that is exactly why I've come here less and less! I've just been enjoying them for the time being until I can get my surrounds. I don't really have much new to add or anything.
But I did have a NYE party and showed my room/setup to about 30 people and they were all blown away by it. I put on Saving Private Ryan for about 6 people and 3 of them had to get up before the opening scene ended because they were getting too into it and didn't want to get too sucked into a movie at a NYE party.

I'm in the same boat. I spent my Christmas break and watched at leat 15 movies. Many of them were with Friends and family that were in town for the Holidays. My brother in law and his family were in town and stayed at our house for 3 nights and every night I received multiple requests to go down and watch a "Family" movie....even from the women folk smile.gif All 9 of us fit comfortably in the man cave and had a great time watching movies like Ice Age 4, Brave, Austin Powers 1 and 2, etc..... not to mention playing Black Ops 2 with my Brother in law and nephews was a ton of fun.
post #6472 of 18704
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Originally Posted by COACH2369 View Post

Reading a post like this, makes me feel even more confident that JTR is the right fit for my upgrade. biggrin.gif
What kind of surround are you going with? I am hoping to stick with my Klipsch surrounds(RS-52II and RB-61II) until I can upgrade them to JTR's.

I have a demo this weekend with a fellow AVS member who is considering JTR speakers. You might stop by later in the month when you might be back in town...Jeff should list my house on his web site for people wanting JTR demos biggrin.gif
post #6473 of 18704
Carp
I saw your thread on the subwoofer part but I am posting this here to avoid any disagreements that may come from this.
Your Noesis speakers and SubM Hp's are the next level of performance and the SMS-1 is not. It can work and improve on lower level offerings but IMO does more harm than good at the level you are at now. Kick that dinosaur to the curb and try to pick up an avr with MultiEQ XT32. This is just my 2 cents but I feel the need to tell you since you are trying to tame the same system (almost) that I have been working on for over a year and I know the SMS-1 does not work well with my system but XT32 is the sh-t for dual sub EQ.
I have a less than 50hr SMS-1 setting in my retired equipment room packaged up collecting dust.
I know others swear by it but I see it as part of the problem not the solution.
Keep trying and you will figure it out.
Chris
Edited by countryWV - 1/4/13 at 8:27am
post #6474 of 18704
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Originally Posted by countryWV View Post

Carp
I saw your thread on the subwoofer part but I am posting this here to avoid any disagreements that may come from this.
Your Noesis speakers and SubM Hp's are the next level of performance and the SMS-1 is not. It can work and improve on lower level offerings but IMO does more harm than good at the level you are at now. Kick that dinosaur to the curb and try to pick up an avr with MultiEQ XT32. I saw amazon selling brand new Denon 3312's for less than $600. That is a hell of a deal and even comes with denon factory 3 yr warrenty. They also had the equivalent in Onkyos for the same great deals.
This is just my 2 cents but I feel the need to tell you since you are trying to tame the same system (almost) that I have been working on for over a year and I know the SMS-1 does not work well with my system but XT32 is the sh-t for dual sub EQ.
I have a less than 50hr SMS-1 setting in my retired equipment room packaged up collecting dust.
I know others swear by it but I see it as part of the problem not the solution.
Keep trying and you will figure it out.
Chris

The 3312 does not have XT32. For XT32, you need to get either the 4311 (discontinued) or the new 4520.
post #6475 of 18704
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Originally Posted by mojomike View Post

The 3312 does not have XT32. For XT32, you need to get either the 4311 (discontinued) or the new 4520.
sorry for the bad information. I have the 4311 and wrongly assumed it to be MultiEQ XT insted of MultiEQ XT32.
Please don't let my ignorance overpower the point of what I was trying to express being that the SMS-1 takes away too much and offers little in return in my system. (SubM HP's)
When Carp had stated earlier that he was not getting enough bass from his subs my first thought was Get rid of the SMS-1 and he will see immediate improvements.
Thanks for setting me straight.smile.gif
Chris
Edited by countryWV - 1/4/13 at 8:36am
post #6476 of 18704
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Originally Posted by countryWV View Post

Carp
I saw your thread on the subwoofer part but I am posting this here to avoid any disagreements that may come from this.
Your Noesis speakers and SubM Hp's are the next level of performance and the SMS-1 is not. It can work and improve on lower level offerings but IMO does more harm than good at the level you are at now. Kick that dinosaur to the curb and try to pick up an avr with MultiEQ XT32. This is just my 2 cents but I feel the need to tell you since you are trying to tame the same system (almost) that I have been working on for over a year and I know the SMS-1 does not work well with my system but XT32 is the sh-t for dual sub EQ.
I have a less than 50hr SMS-1 setting in my retired equipment room packaged up collecting dust.
I know others swear by it but I see it as part of the problem not the solution.
Keep trying and you will figure it out.
Chris

I hear you, but I like to be able to tweak things myself. That's what I like about my receiver, being able to manually tweak the eq and save different presets. Same for the sms-1, I like being in control and having a bunch of presets. I don't like something else to do it for me and say - here, you either like it or you don't.

I'm eventually planning on getting a minidsp for my DIY subs, I'm not real familiar with it, maybe that will do everything I need for the subs.
post #6477 of 18704
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Originally Posted by COACH2369 View Post

Just when I get caught up on this thread....it slows WAY down. Guess that is a good thing because it must mean everybody is too busy listening to their JTR setups. biggrin.gif

Don't worry coach, things are about to get real interesting. A group of us from KC are headed up today for a GTG in Iowa going on tomorrow that will be a blind test comparison of the Noesis and the Salk (can't remember the model, but it's $$$$ and sounds fantastic according to all accounts).
post #6478 of 18704
Measure the response and see if any extra stuff is needed at all. One point of multiple subs is smoothing out the response naturally. I usually just have to add a low shelf or LT under 20hz. Room and boundary gain take care of most of it.
post #6479 of 18704
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Originally Posted by carp View Post

Don't worry coach, things are about to get real interesting. A group of us from KC are headed up today for a GTG in Iowa going on tomorrow that will be a blind test comparison of the Noesis and the Salk (can't remember the model, but it's $$$$ and sounds fantastic according to all accounts).

That sounds like fun. Is there a Thread with the details?

Edit: I found dlbecks post in the HT Meet Section. Might be good to start a separate Thread here in the Speaker Section as I imagine there will be a lot of interest. cool.gif
Edited by RMK! - 1/4/13 at 8:50am
post #6480 of 18704
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

That sounds like fun. Is there a Thread with the details?
Edit: I found dlbecks post in the HT Meet Section. Might be good to start a separate Thread here in the Speaker Section as I imagine there will be a lot of interest. cool.gif

I bet someone will start a thread here. I'm taking one of my Noesis up so that we can have the full LRC for movie demo's, I think the blind test will just be 2 channel and phantom center for movies but I'm not positive about that.
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