Official JTR speaker thread - Page 216

Geez man, I never said everyone HAS to go DIY, it's on option and Carp is taking it and I was talking about it. I don't know why you feel it's personal against someone who buys.

Well, thats just me I guess, a monkey with a saw and no skill, I'm surprised I can even work this internet thing the kids are always on....

Sorry if I offended you Nate. I think you have done a great job with your theater and I have no doubt your DIY subs perform as you say. You apparently have the requisite skills that make the purchase of the import (no warranty) amp a reasonable risk. BTW, calling that thing an LG "clone" is inaccurate and, an insult to LG.

I assume Carp knows what he is doing and that particular situation isn't what I was talking about. I see DIY recommendations made to folks who are still trying to figure out the basics. To get good results knowledge is necessary and if you value your time it is not always cheaper. The components used often get expensive and the box build quality is also essential. I just think the advice to DIY should be accompanied with some caveats the most important being go to the DIY section of the Forum and read, read, read and then ask lot's of questions ...

Haha, guys I have NO IDEA what I'm doing. If Kevin hadn't jumped into DIY and I hadn't heard his creation I wouldn't have considered it.

Here is a breakdown to my thinking:

Music is my priority and a single Submersive sounds fantastic in my LP. There is no locallization with just using one Submersive, in fact when I ran a 150 hz crossover there wasn't even any localization. Others can verify, must be my room and I'm not complaining. Now that I'm down to a 80hz crossover with the Noesis there is no way it will ever be a factor. Now, do dual Submersives sound better for music in other parts of the room? Yes, but I really don't care about that, which is why I ran the Submersives stacked for a long time.

Now, when I say music is the priority it doesn't mean that I don't want more output for movies - which, once again, is why I stacked the Submersives.

So, my thinking is I can sell one Submersive, still have the amazing sound quality for music and get a LOT more output for movies (and thoes Archaea type songs to demo for friends) by building 4 single DIY subs.

If I decide that then DIY subs sound just as good I'll sell my other Submersive and build the remaining 4 subs. If not, I'll sell the extra 4 drivers and just stick with my 4 DIY subs and 1 Submersive.

Trip to Gorilla83's+snow storm=upgrade bug

Not only are the Caps for sale but now so is my Crest CC4000 amp.

I'd think if your price is right, that Crest will be gone pretty quick. They are very good amps.

I have no idea what it is worth. I can't find any for sale and the only ones on a google search are new and about $1000 or so but no one has them in stock?

I'd personally ask $650 but take no less than $600. They go new at ABE's for $700 new in stock but everywhere else, they seem to be $999 or similar. I think $650 would be a fair price and if I needed one, I'd buy it myself for that but I have 12 pro amps already

Carp
Do you plan on doing a build thread? You take good pictures.
I just read through Gorilla's and it was very interesting.
Chris

Carp,
Why don't you build one dual opposed sub first and listen to it properly to compare it to the Submersive(play both at medium levels with the same response) and if you like it then build more.

Thanks Chris, I'm thinking about waiting for the flat packs to get back in stock but I probably will start a thread.

MK, I posted some info about comparing dual opposed Dayton's to my Submersive here, along with more impressions of the Noesis:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1407184/carps-basement-hide-out/180#post_22761841

Looks like you already made the decision, nice! Build 4!

Great taste in music!! Im a metal head for life. Im a diehard Pantera fan and ive heard The Great Southern Trendkill to be a bad recording too but its just not the case. Crank 13 Steps to Nowhere!! Opening drums always sound great cranked.

OK, a little ot, but I thought that I'd give it a try here since most of you have built HT spaces. I'm finishing my basement and need some advice. They ate going to hang the drywall soon and want to know what type of insulation should go in between the cement walls and the drywall. Any suggestions? I can't wait until this is finished. I am using my 3 T8's and one capo, but the other cap and the two s8's are just sitting there, waiting. Thanks for any help.

Hogues, you might get an answer here but you'll get more views on topic at the acoustic treatments master thread. Over there there are some very knowledgeable experts on acoustic treatments. good luck.

I calibrated my sources and found out that what I thought was reference was really around +4 to +6 depending on the source. None of this really matters that much other than the fact that now I know what reference is supposed to sound like and that the T8's are able to go beyond it without issue.

lbrowns suggestion is a good one. If you're looking for construction rather than acoustic recommendations you might also try the dedicated HT Build Section as there are a lot of basement build experts there.
Edited by RMK! - 12/31/12 at 3:14pm

Happy new year JTR owners and friends

Happy New Year fellow happy JTR owners and friends!!

Happy New Years to everybody on this thread. I have just spent the past four days reading through this entire thread and I feel like I might have found my next speaker setup, Three Noesis for LCR.

Currently I have a RF-7II/RC-64II setup for my LCR with RS-52II and RB-61II's for rear/surround duty. My subs are HSU VTF-15H x 2...

Had been looking at some CAT-12's since August, but these seem to be more practical for me. I already have a solid amp, TGA-7401, so I like the potential of adding these speakers to my system.

Carp's statement about buying these when he really wasn't looking to purchase a new set of speakers....made my excitement level go up that much more.

Most of my questions have been answered and I plan on contacting Jeff for more detailed information particular to my setup.

Since I have already heard the Cat-12's in action, I was going to see if anybody in the East Tennessee area might have these speakers(or other JTR speakers) available for a demo. I thought maybe I read that somebody in Asheville might have some. Since I travel quite a bit for work, I would be willing to travel several hours outside of Knoxville for a demo....

Thanks again for any input and I look forward to posting more.

That WAS me. I had a pair of the Triple12's and a triple8 for a center. Absolutely wonderful speakers, and it might not be that long before I have the Noesis back in I am building out some DIY horns right now to try out, and for the time being I have a pair of ls6's that are absolutely superb as well, just a totally different type of speaker tho. Sorry you missed out by about a month on hearing them, I would have been more than happy to let you demo!!!

What is the coverage pattern of the Noesis?

Bummer... Did you happen to sell those to a forum member from Cincinnati?

It's a 60/40 horn.

yup :-)

Thanks RMK!

I was thinking that was the case...

My wife and I are making another trip up to Cincinnat at the end of this month because our Christmas trip was cut short due to the weather....maybe I could persuade you to allow a demo..

Sure thing. Might even have the second S2 by then. Just drop me a PM when the time gets closer and we will coordinate schedules.

I just finished looking at the specs on those S2's... WOW, that thing is big and would make my VTF-15H look "small"..

Definitely will let you know as the time gets closer.

Thanks,

Just when I get caught up on this thread....it slows WAY down. Guess that is a good thing because it must mean everybody is too busy listening to their JTR setups.