Official JTR speaker thread - Page 218

Sounds like a win, win, win to me.

I might consider a used set of the 12's at the right price instead of the Noesis... PM me if you have any or know of any for sale.. Thanks.

That's great especially with 2012 upgraded components for CD and XO. Interesting idea with the 3TX as mains, smaller and lighter but with the new CD and XO of the Neosis I think. They have been getting fantastic reviews on the pro boards too!

Sorry. What is 3TX?

It's a pro version 3-way speaker in Jeff's line-up. Uses dual 10" neo magnet woofers and the same 1.4" CD/horn in the Noesis....but much lighter.

Yep and, it is very cool looking ...

I've been wondering when someone would give them a try in an HT application. Probably a little lighter on the midbass than the 212's.

Haven't been here in a while since I got my sealed Triple 8s a year or so ago.....They're still awesome and I have no desire to upgrade speakers in my 2000 cubic foot room. How is everyone else liking their's? I actually changed processor and amp last year to a McIntosh system and I really like it with the JTR's....

Anyway, just stopping back in to say hi!

That is very tempting. PM me if you end up with an extra T8.

OK. i am set for the sealed T8-LP.. so I can hang onto my wall and make it cleaner in my setup.
Anyone had 3 for sale, I am interested. Please PM me.

the results and basic feedback has been posted for the Iowa GTG where the Neosis was blind tested against the Salk Ht2-TL's. Even at low spl (83dB) in two channel music mode more people preffered the neosis. I can't wait for mine to get here. Its going to be the best of both worlds, awesome at audiophile critical listening levels and awesome with crushing dynamics and clarity at high spl. Home run!

I saw dlbecks post tonight and I'm impressed (but not surprised) the Noesis did so well in the music category as I'm sure the Salks are an awesome loudspeaker for music. In any case it would have been fun to attend the GTG. Sounds like everyone had a good time and they did a great job with the blind test.

OK, I am like 99% movie. Is T8-LP "good enough"? Will I notice big difference from T8 to Neosis?
I most certainly want this next LCR to last at least 5 years.. so I don't want any buyer remorse (well, who am I kidding ) I got my OS about 2 years back and seriously, i did not have any subwoofer upgrade urge as it is so good. Also, would like to save up for a Panny VT50..

Yes. Make sure you have subs to compliment...

Good enough? Crying out loud, the T8 is as good as any with slight differences between others. Even JTR's own bigger and badder speakers will offer an Increase in performance but not as much as one would think, the T8 is at the diminishing return part of the chain so spending more gets you better but never will be a night and day difference. Bigger sound, more Midbass, better feel are somethings you can get but again you have spend twice as much(Noesis) and much more with other speakers.

I agree, if you do the bass/sub integration properly and pay attention to some basic room acoustics (as with any set up) those T8's are awesome.

I had been sold on the Noesis...but have also been considering the other options out there in the JTR line. Seems like every owner(regardless of what model they choose)seems to really enjoy the sound these speakers put out.

My current setup for LCR are the RF-7II's and a RC-64II. Has anybody on here made the jump from this setup to a JTR setup? I read the last 50 or so pages of the thread and don't remember seeing anybody mention it..

Thanks for saving me a lot of typing ...

Here is a link to the blind GTG.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/871474/ia-meet/3450#post_22787686

I disagree guys, I think the difference between the 888's and the Noesis is huge.

I've said this before so I don't to sound like a broken record....

oh well, broken record time again. When I heard the 888's in my room I didn't have a single thought of upgrading and they are what, 1200 per speaker? When I heard the Noesis in my room I knew I had to buy them and they are 2200 per speaker. The difference on music is dramatic. No way I would have preferred the 888's to the Salk's at the blind GTG.

*disclaimer* that is all MY opinion, others my find the differences more subtle.

I concur with carp! Noesis is quite a bit better in my subjective opinion too. Not that the former models are bad. I still prefered them to the Salk overall at the Wisconsin meet. Just that the Noesis are sooooo amazing! They grow on me everytime I hear them!

I have only had a quick demo of the Neosis and they did sound amazing so I am not in disagreement with those of you that have more time with them. In fact it was both of you plus Rob that made me decide to get them even before I heard them.

On a seperate note I have been using my small def tech BP1's as LR and my def tech 2002 as center channel, no rears. I just turned the OS off and run the empire and velos for now and even those had to be turned down. Very unimpressive right now but should make the new set up that much more exciting when it gets here. Now just the waiting game.

I will agree with both Carp and Archaea that the Noesis is a cut above the rest but (with my limited experience) I don't feel they are as far apart as they do. Its the compression driver in the Noesis that sets them apart. I love the Noesis but I do feel like they could use a bit more mid-bass. If you have a pair of some high end subs that can help fill that in (run them hot) then you have no problems. I would love to do a blind comp with both the T8's and Noesis. I do think the Noesis would win hands down in details but I don't think it would be a large of a margin as the forums are starting to lead on.

Also Carp you would really pick the Salks over the T8's? I have a very hard time believing this. It's like you saying you never run your system "all that loud"
Edited by stitch1 - 1/6/13 at 7:40pm

I agree about the midbass, but they are meant to be used with good subs IMO.

I am sorry guys, I should always put in a disclaimer that I talk about a real cinematic experience, music is secondary to me. Sounds like you guys love the Noesis, awesome!

I have not heard the Noesis, but I can certainly say that the T8's are good enough. In my fairly well treated room with a well integrated S2, I had some guests today say the sound is much better than a movie theater, and that is without surrounds, since I am still saving up for slanted 8's. This is also with the 2010 model T8's. The new ones will sound even better.

T8's or Noesis, you can't lose. You will be ecstatic either way.

stitch,

carp and I have demoed both triple 8s and noesis in our own rooms.

I wish I could have been there. I don't think I would (or am) disagreeing with you. I'm just saying the T8's are still some pretty nice sounding speakers.

All this Neosis talk has me very much looking forward to the April 13th GTG. Can't wait to hear them in person.

Jeff built the Noesis with the goal of it being a more audiophile sounding speaker while not giving up the dynamics that those of us who owned the Triples have come to appreciate (it's addictive). I think he did just that and,the Noesis are a cut above the Triples in terms of midrange and high frequency sound quality and music is where this is most noticeable. Like the Triples, the Noesis is not a full range speaker and requires a sub even for music.

Honestly, l could be (and was) just as happy with the Triple 12's considering my 90% HT movie usage. It was a blind buy and I was a little nervous when I sold the T12's before even hearing the Noesis. I'm usually more of a cautious hear it first person but Jeff has earned my respect and I believed he was on to something with the Noesis design. It took this very special speaker to get me to make a change from theTriple 12's.

If all I did was watch movies I would be fine with the 888's. How speakers sound for music is far more important. I bought the Noesis with music on my mind, movies were an afterthought.

That's what I mean when I say the salks are the 2nd best speaker I've ever heard, I'm thinking about music not movies. I'm so glad it worked out for me that my favorite speaker I've ever heard for music also happens to be probably one of the best speakers possible for movies, if i had preferred the salks for music that would have been very bad... Not only would I have been putting the Noesis up for sale but then I would have had to deal with the fact that I would have limits for watching movies. I don't like having limits.

That's why I probably better not hear thr ls 6's. I dodged a bullet this time, but maybe I shouldn't roll the dice again.

Oh whatever, I'd jump at the chance to hear the ls 6's.