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post #6571 of 8432
1/7/13 at 1:11pm
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Originally Posted by mcallister View Post

Are there any plans (yet) to add to the Noesis line?

Not that I am aware of but one can hope. Guessing if Jeff thinks/hears there is a demand he would start building a smaller Noesis type speaker. I believe the pro line already has another version of the Noesis with a smaller horn so probably has all the parts he would need to build such a speaker.
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post #6572 of 8432
1/7/13 at 2:03pm
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Originally Posted by COACH2369 View Post

Which number can you text?

Just sent you a PM.
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post #6573 of 8432
1/7/13 at 2:13pm
Thanks countryWV,

I'd be interested in a smaller Noesis myself that was a bit easier on the wallet. But smaller may mean less quality parts and variance in sound and that defeats the purpose. I'm starting to think a bit like carp.
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post #6574 of 8432
1/7/13 at 2:15pm
I bet if you pooled all the stuff in your house/garage that you no longer really use and sold it you would be well on your way to buying the Noesis. Hopefully that doesn't have to include the vette... jk, I know that's another hobby of yours.
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post #6575 of 8432
1/7/13 at 2:23pm
I just placed an order for a pair of the 3TXs. 3-way, dual 10" neo drivers and same CD/horn as the 12" Noesis.........only 50lbs though. They will have inserts and be mounted on my M&K stands.
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post #6576 of 8432
1/7/13 at 2:27pm
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Originally Posted by KevinH View Post

I just placed an order for a pair of the 3TXs. 3-way, dual 10" neo drivers and same CD/horn as the 12" Noesis.........only 50lbs though. They will have inserts and be mounted on my M&K stands.

can you bring them up to kansas city for a head to head in car's room against the Noesis directly? redface.gif
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post #6577 of 8432
1/7/13 at 2:34pm
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Originally Posted by Archaea View Post

can you bring them up to kansas city for a head to head in car's room against the Noesis directly? redface.gif


Ha, I would love to....but prolly not wink.gif It's gonna be several weeks I think.....Jeff is waiting on more CDs and he has to redo the xover......the normal 3TX xover has the horn a couple dBs hot since it's normal application has them much higher than HT use. If I can sell my T8s, I'll prolly get a 3rd for center duty.
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post #6578 of 8432
1/7/13 at 2:57pm
I think the GTG in April will help a lot of us guys who are thinking about the Neosis. My bet is April 14th there will be a lot of speakers for sale!
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post #6579 of 8432
1/7/13 at 3:13pm
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Originally Posted by COACH2369 View Post

I have a feeling I won't be purchasing anything until at least the end of the month, so your offer for a demo will definitely help some.
As far as subs go, I feel like I have a decent setup.... 2 - HSU VTF-15H
Eventually I will be upgrading the surrounds and the subs in my system.

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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

Great idea to get the demo. Be prepared for the S2's to give you a bad case of bass envy...wink.gif

Well being in knoxville, and possibly being interested in a big sub system, perhaps I will have this one done by the time you swing through and you could demo a Do-it-yourself setup done proper smile.gif

Me in the pic for size reference, haha

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post #6580 of 8432
1/7/13 at 3:17pm
Beast
You know that will Void the warrenty.tongue.gif
Chris
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post #6581 of 8432
1/7/13 at 3:22pm
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I bet if you pooled all the stuff in your house/garage that you no longer really use and sold it you would be well on your way to buying the Noesis. Hopefully that doesn't have to include the vette... jk, I know that's another hobby of yours.

Funny that you wrote this... I am going through and selling all my unused A/V cables to help fund the purchase of my speakers. Plus, my company is forcing us to cash PTO days this year instead of allowing us to bank them....another key contributor to my speaker upgrade. biggrin.gif
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post #6582 of 8432
1/7/13 at 3:22pm
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Originally Posted by beastaudio View Post

Well being in knoxville, and possibly being interested in a big sub system, perhaps I will have this one done by the time you swing through and you could demo a Do-it-yourself setup done proper smile.gif
Me in the pic for size reference, haha

OH MY...
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post #6583 of 8432
1/7/13 at 3:31pm
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Originally Posted by beastaudio View Post

Well being in knoxville, and possibly being interested in a big sub system, perhaps I will have this one done by the time you swing through and you could demo a Do-it-yourself setup done proper smile.gif
Me in the pic for size reference, haha
subwoofer porn :-)
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post #6584 of 8432
1/7/13 at 3:48pm
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Originally Posted by countryWV View Post

Beast
You know that will Void the warrenty.tongue.gif
Chris

Haha! No don't take that photo out of context sir. Lol

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Originally Posted by COACH2369 View Post

OH MY...

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Originally Posted by Frohlich View Post

subwoofer porn :-)

Eh, I didn't intend on that pic to insinuate anything, I just started by putting my shoe in the pic and it was still not a good representation of how big these dudes are. perhaps I should have done this one instead: What more could a guy ask for, beautiful girl, drinkin some nice red, and a Ish-ton of new subs. Life is good smile.gif

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post #6585 of 8432
1/7/13 at 4:31pm
I like that picture better. Is she the one that picked out that tablecloth? smile.gif
Those will definately make for a great bass system how are you going to do it 4 dual opposed?
What amp or amps will you be using?
Chris
Edited by countryWV - 1/7/13 at 5:42pm
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post #6586 of 8432
1/7/13 at 4:37pm
Oh My....LOL
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post #6587 of 8432
1/7/13 at 5:46pm
8? thats it? biggrin.gif
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post #6588 of 8432
1/8/13 at 4:37am
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Originally Posted by beastaudio View Post

Haha! No don't take that photo out of context sir. Lol
Eh, I didn't intend on that pic to insinuate anything, I just started by putting my shoe in the pic and it was still not a good representation of how big these dudes are. perhaps I should have done this one instead: What more could a guy ask for, beautiful girl, drinkin some nice red, and a Ish-ton of new subs. Life is good smile.gif

I actually didn't mean it that way either Brandon. On the golf forum (my other hobby) when somebody puts out pictures of their new gear we often call it Golf porn...maybe the joke didn't translate well. Though, going back and looking at the picture closer, it makes my comment a little bit funnier the way you took it biggrin.gif
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post #6589 of 8432
1/8/13 at 5:07am
Brandon
I apologize too. Thats a dangerous picture without an explanation. I see exactly what you were doing now.smile.gif
I thought that look on your face was one of confusion as if you were looking for an "outlet to plug it in." biggrin.gif
It seems like my body gets older but my mind is stuck in the 5th grade.wink.gif
Those sure are some sweet looking drivers. They look real close to the 15" drivers in my Submersive.
Chris
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post #6590 of 8432
1/8/13 at 6:10am
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This lovely young lady seems to be pointing out that size does indeed matter.
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post #6591 of 8432
1/8/13 at 6:33am
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Originally Posted by beastaudio View Post

Haha! No don't take that photo out of context sir. Lol
Eh, I didn't intend on that pic to insinuate anything, I just started by putting my shoe in the pic and it was still not a good representation of how big these dudes are. perhaps I should have done this one instead: What more could a guy ask for, beautiful girl, drinkin some nice red, and a Ish-ton of new subs. Life is good smile.gif

Did she start drinking before or after you brought all those drivers into the house? smile.gif Pretty cool that your wife is on board with this. I am able to do what ever I want. Do not even have to inform my wife what I am doing, but I will have to admit, I would hesitate at bringing in as many subs as you did. smile.gif
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post #6592 of 8432
1/8/13 at 6:40am
I don't inform my wife either, of course I will hear about it later. Better to ask for forgiveness than permission! I don't blame her because I change frequently. I am actually thinking of trying these out and change my whole speaker setup again. All that work for no change would be dumb though.
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post #6593 of 8432
1/8/13 at 7:26am
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Originally Posted by countryWV View Post

I like that picture better. Is she the one that picked out that tablecloth? smile.gif
Those will definately make for a great bass system how are you going to do it 4 dual opposed?
What amp or amps will you be using?
Chris

Yep ,four D.O. boxes, 4 speakers per channel of one of the LG14k's

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I actually didn't mean it that way either Brandon.biggrin.gif

Actually, I got exactly what you were going for, and am well aware of the concept, you guys didn't really jar me, haha.



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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

Did she start drinking before or after you brought all those drivers into the house? smile.gif Pretty cool that your wife is on board with this. I am able to do what ever I want. Do not even have to inform my wife what I am doing, but I will have to admit, I would hesitate at bringing in as many subs as you did. smile.gif

Haha, well she was in the car all day with me and all 8 boxes so I would say after she knew. She is a keeper for sure biggrin.gif I got this thing down see, we drive down to SI to pick up all 8 drivers, and then go look at a new puppy all at the same time! It worked flawlessly.
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post #6594 of 8432
1/8/13 at 8:45am
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Originally Posted by beastaudio View Post

Yep ,four D.O. boxes, 4 speakers per channel of one of the LG14k's

Wow, a $7K amp. So much for DIY being more economical ...

J/K Beast tongue.gifwink.gif
Edited by RMK! - 1/8/13 at 11:04am
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post #6595 of 8432
1/8/13 at 11:08am
Here is an interesting review by one of the Iowa GTG attendees on the SALK/ JTR blind test:
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So, this was a really fun experience for me. Good to meet you all and thanks to dlbeck for hosting.

I have a much different perspective than most of you guys (I think) - I'm really "new" to the whole high end speaker game for starters (I have a Polk Monitor setup which is about 1/10th the cost of these speakers and in a much worse space). My background is also a lot different I suspect - in high school I was performing as part of a good classical orchestra frequently and I currently volunteer at a small concert venue doing stage lighting to shows. Both these make one have to focus less on individual parts of music and more on the music as the whole. I literally cannot focus on individual parts of music (like instruments) or I cannot do my job of lighting effectively. I have to simply feel the music in its entirety. I don't know how to explain this, maybe this makes no sense

Even if this makes no sense, I think this combination leads me to have an interesting perspective when listening to speakers.

Annnnnnnnnyways.

Music
I very much preferred the JTR Noesis speakers for music (even though I felt the bass-y frequencies were too weak on quite a few songs). I think a couple people commented on this already - but when I closed my eyes listening to quite a few of the songs, it was easy to feel as though there was a live stage in front of us. They also felt as though there was literally no problem playing any volume. Going from soft to loud in songs felt... effortless.

The Salks felt much more precise and articulate to me. I'm not really sure how to explain this. Perhaps if you were to imagine taking a panoramic photo and using "sharpen" - except just slightly overdoing it? In my mind, the "sharpen" level I want out of music I listen to is lower than what the Salks were? Maybe that makes no sense... Overall bass felt much better (in particular on Angel). Individual components seemed to sound better on the Salks though (I really enjoyed the acoustic guitar parts, and the cello at the end of one song was amazingly beautiful). I also felt the Salks gave me a feeling of fatigue when listening to them - they did not feel as effortless as the JTRs. Female vocals were much more piercing - but I thought Amazing Grace was less impressive in spite of this.

Movies
This comparison was interesting. I again preferred the JTR Noesis speakers (not quite as strongly as I did for music, but a lot more preference between them than the others there). While taking notes, I had to concentrate to even take notes on watching the scenes with them - I'd not seen most of these scenes before and even watching the second time through I felt so much more... pulled into the movie than I did with the Salks (which were first on movies). This caused me to not even remember in some senses I was taking notes. I literally felt as if I was there in a way I did not feel with the Salks. I'm not sure why this was the case, but, I suspect the preciseness I described above is the root cause of this. I didn't think it was so hard to determine which set of speakers matched from music/movies (though, I had no clue which was which...) after a few scenes on the JTRs.

Overall
So I've never done anything like this before. I've never taken notes on speakers nor consistently even heard high end speakers. I just somewhat wrote what things came to my mind when listening/watching.

It's really interesting to me the majority of my notes on the JTRs were related to the whole experience of listening while the comments I made on the Salks were much more frequently related to individual components of the experience (like how guitar sounds, etc). On the movies side, the only comment I made on specifics for the JTRs was in reference to a line in Book of Eli I didn't recall hearing on the Salks (the "Can you shoot a gun?" line in the house and a few others I didn't write down) - everything else was the overall experience while many more of the comments on the Salks were on individual things. I didn't realize this until reviewing my mess of notes just now, either.
Edited by enderland - Yesterday at 10:42 am
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post #6596 of 8432
1/8/13 at 11:36am
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

Here is an interesting review by one of the Iowa GTG attendees on the SALK/ JTR blind test:

Wow.. i like the comments. Very personal, yet revealing.
Makes me wonder if I should go with Noesis then... Ah.. struggle!!!
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post #6597 of 8432
1/8/13 at 11:47am
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Originally Posted by fight4yu View Post

Wow.. i like the comments. Very personal, yet revealing.
Makes me wonder if I should go with Noesis then... Ah.. struggle!!!

You are only 90 minutes away from a demo ... smile.gif
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post #6598 of 8432
1/8/13 at 12:24pm
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

Wow, a $7K amp. So much for DIY being more economical ...
J/K Beast tongue.gifwink.gif

It was actually a clone produced in China, <$1,000
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post #6599 of 8432
1/8/13 at 12:33pm
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Originally Posted by beastaudio View Post

It was actually a clone produced in China, <$1,000

Really looking forward to your impressions once you get to listening. If your experience is anything like mine (which is should as they are almost identical setups) I think you will be very happy. biggrin.gif
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1/8/13 at 12:46pm
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

You are only 90 minutes away from a demo ... smile.gif

I wish I was 90 minutes away from a demo.. cool.gif
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