Official JTR speaker thread - Page 222

very true. there is quite a lot of discussion about Neosis freq range here and on the IA meet thread. I think driver selection (cost), size, ported/sealed and sensitivity requirements to keep up with the rest of the speaker are all factors to be considered. I remember looking at the pro versions in the past they were almost always higher rated for higher F3 point vs their HT counterpart. probably to get higher ultimate SPL, plus the pro subs are for music so they go higher in freq for XO and sign off sooner on the low end too. Sorry if all of this is way too obvious but I wasn't sure b/c much discussion about why they don't go lower or how you would make them go lower. I think the JTR HT stuff has hit the sweet spot with quality build, sensitvity, sound quality and versatility.

I just emailed Jeff about the T8-LP
Someone mentioned i can text him as well? Can someone PM with the info?

Thanks!

He must be pretty busy because I have emailed, called and text him with zero response back. Hopefully I will hear from him tomorrow.

All great points and clearly not obvious to all ... thanks

Contacting Jeff is a PITA as he is usually in his shop building or out at the cabinet shop programming new CNC concepts ...

He actually isn't very good at marketing and that's a good thing for those who buy from him cause if he was a better marketeer, he be selling his products for a lot more ...

Ahh... and here I am thinking I was the only one he's ignoring.. hehe... well, so long as I am getting my speakers, all's good...

When I ordered my Noesis Jeff told me that the week before he worked 9 am to 12 pm for 4 days straight. That's a good sign for business, but I hope he doesn't burn himself out.

Haha, make that 12 am.

LOL, 3 hours of work sounds pretty good to me. 15 hours.... not so much.

I must be lucky, as he reply back to me tonight. I am likely to place an order soon... Excited!!

I would hate to have him burn out!! I have my eyes set on the Noesis for a dedicated room build. All these people raving about em...gotta hear this for myself

Jeff responded to my email last night as well.... Now I have to decide when to pull the trigger. Probably will still wait until I hear a demo.

Although I'm sure those hours were a little rugged, it's not really work when you love what you do. He is actually very fortunate and he knows it.

I have to say my NAD M25 amp use to get pretty darn hot after a few hours of driving my Thiel speakers in my old set-up. It barely breaks a sweat now with the high sensitivity JTR speakers. I watched Dredd (great flick for you bass heads out there...actually a way better movie then I was expecting overall) and touched the NAD amp afterwards and it was warm at best.

That is a good thing to hear. I have a Sunfire TGA7401 and it runs very cool with Klipsch setup. Hoping for the same with the JTR speakers.

I am looking forward to Dredd myself.

You got that right. My job sucks so bad (not so much the job but dealing with people) that I spend it dreaming about building speakers. What makes things worse is I have to remember to be thankful that I have a job.
Being thankful for something I do not like is just the way life is.
Chris

Chris, you can always try doing what you like part time. Like building speakers and sell them. Then once your 'hobby business' takes off, you can then quit your day job.

I love my family and enjoy my hobbies (HT, golf, Buckeye Football). I work to live...not live to work. I have it pretty good so no room for complaints on my side but like everyone else, I put in a lot of hours to get ahead in life.

I appreciate the optimism I really do. I am locked into the family business so too many people that I love are depending on me not to take my own path which I am cool with. Hopefully one day my job title will be "boss".
On the flipside I have all the space and tools needed to build while working but unless the speaker market calls for someone with half ass skills making half ass speakers I will be better keeping the day job.
I am under the impression that most do not enjoy thier work but for the ones that do Awesome b/c that is the Dream.
Chris

I have been very lucky in the fact that my hobby (selling fitness equipment, not speakers) is becoming lucrative enough that I will eventually be able to quit my day job, which is not really a bad job either.

Here is hoping that as you move up the ladder, you get to do more of what you like and less of what you don't at work.

Although it may not seem like it at times, this is still the land of opportunities. Just ask an immigrant if life in the good old USA is better....

I have been with the same company for over 30 years. Pretty unusual out here in Silicon Valley (headhunters called me a tree hugger ). The Outliers book (good read BTW) describes the magic number of 10,000 hours of dedicated practice to get really good at something. I past that number many years ago.

The point is, carefully pick what you want to do and then dedicate yourself to becoming really good at it. That is it's own reward ...

Now, back to JTR speaker talk?

Yep, it will be the same Coach. These JTR's at 101dB sensitivity for the T-12's mean they can operate at reference off a measly 4 watts at one meter, so assume about 32 watts at your LP.


I absolutely love my job, and it is the family business (basically). I too hope that one day you will have put in your time working hard that you will find a spot in the biz where you don't dread coming into work each day...That is not a good existence for anyone.

I agree wholeheartedly the USA is the land of opportunities. I am proud to be American and loyal to the end.
We also get great deals on all JTR equipment shipped straight to the front door.
Just think what out of continent or overseas JTR customers have to pay with the shipping and the rough treatment that comes with
out of country shipping.
Chris

Coach,
If you're still planning on coming up to Cincinnati in a couple weeks to check out Frolich's setup, you're welcome to listen to my system as well. I'm just outside of Cincy in northern KY. I have 3 - 2011 Triple 8's for my LCR's and a Submersive HP sub. Shoot me a PM if you want to set something up.

That sounds great because I am also considering those as a possiblity. Plus I have been dying to hear the Submersive sub.

I am a part time triathlete / ironman, and I can definitely attest to the 10,000 hours. For instance, to be the best in any sports, you need to put in a minimum of 10,000 hours, for all the capillaries to grow so you can have a higher VO2Max, etc.


Go get building.. haha

I believe that if you like what you do (in this case building speakers), you'll eventually become very good at it... and putting in the hours to get there would be just like indulging in your hobby (not work).

CoolGeek
Thanks for the motivation. I am really looking forward to waching/reading Beast 's and Carp's Dual opposed 18" subwoofer builds. I even read over on the DIY threads that thier will be precut flat packs available. Once I see how they do it I am in. I plan on building the boxes first just to make sure I can put something together that that looks "Handmade and Not Homemade." That should be hardest part and take the most time. If that turns out good then the rest will fall in line.
The LG clone amp that has been discussed and is being used with this subwoofer design, would it work well on the T12's and the Noesis? Since I have not seen it mentioned I am curious to what to expect if I used it.
I have been researching putting the parts together to build a speaker like the Noesis but what I find is that Jeff still has the best price. Same goes with the Cap S2. That amp cost $1300. alone. put that together with 2 high quality 18" drivers and once again it shows me just what an incredible price Jeff has on his products. He can do it better and cheaper (less $$$) than I can. Better is expected but for less money is surprising.
Thanks
Chris

I only mentioned it because I did the same after I graduated. I was hired by Motorola right out of college (Iowa State U). But while I was working there, I worked part time on my own business and within 13 months, I was totally on my own (the business took off). I have never looked back.

There are many parents in my country that forces their kids to study what they 'think' is economically good for them, but without realizing that if their kids don't like what they do, they'll never excel in life. Case in point, thousands of graduates in computer science today can't do the slightest bit of programming (they studied it because it's the IN thing, not because they have the aptitude or love of computer science, which is after all a very tough subject). You can replace 'computer science' with other 'subjects' that parents push onto their kids...

Anyways, I digress.

As for speakers, just trust that if you love doing it, you'll find a way to make it... even if you don't make a dime out of it, it'll still be satisfying. May I suggest something? Don't try to emulate JTR. JTR has found their 'niche'. That's why Jeff is so successful. He worked on something for a long time, and people took notice... and he make it his own... and he has a following. Now, you will also find your own 'niche'... it could be any 'other' kind of speakers. Maybe a more expensive line? Maybe a cheaper one? Maybe budget, but sounds astounding??? Maybe it's the design? Maybe it's colorful and women like it? But you'll get there... In the end, if you love it, you'll be successful.. that's my core belief system.

I need one 2010 12ht flat black to go with my others if anyone has one laying around. I have a coated 2009 8ht i need to sell. pm me on either. thanks!

I posted this last week but wanted to throw it out here again for anybody that might have missed it....

Does anybody have a JTR setup, preferably the Noesis, that lives within 3-5 hours of Knoxville Tennessee? I am getting close to pulling the trigger on a set, but wanted to get a demo before I did. Right now, I have some two very gracious forum members who have offered to let me demo their systems that I plan on doing in the next couple of weeks. Those systems are built around the T12's and T8's..

Thanks again.