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post #6691 of 18370
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Originally Posted by carp View Post

Neither, those are the pro versions. Here are the residential versions.

http://jtrspeakers.com/home-audio/noesis-212ht/




Great setup!
Sorry, but I just have to nitpick on the white power socket cover.. I think you need some black one to make this perfect!! smile.gif

I love those stand. did you make it yourself??
post #6692 of 18370
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

I'm pretty sure you, Nuance and Craig John will all be crying in your beer on Sat night ... tongue.gif
We'll see.
post #6693 of 18370
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Originally Posted by fight4yu View Post

Great setup!
Sorry, but I just have to nitpick on the white power socket cover.. I think you need some black one to make this perfect!! smile.gif

I love those stand. did you make it yourself??

No, those are JTR stands.

Ha, yeah I hear that a lot about the sockets. smile.gif

A few weeks ago I put some 244 bass trap panels I wasn't using to good use. My motivation was just so I wouldn't hear how I needed to take care of the sockets, but I do find I like the all black a lot better.






Here is a shot with a folding chair to get an idea of how large (IMO a good thing) these speakers are for those of you that haven't seen them in person.


post #6694 of 18370
need to get rid of a few jtr speakers, pick them up from me in staten island, ny this weekend- sat/sunday only, i have these listed in the classifieds for significantly more. priced to move..

$1800 for 3x JTR Quintuple 2010 model with 2011 upgrades (crossover/compression driver)

$800 for 2x JTR Triple 8 2010 models!

daughter is zooming around everywhere in her walker, and i got the feeling that leaving these standing in my living room will not be safe for much longer.
post #6695 of 18370
Man, I wish the T8's were shippable. They would be perfect for my surrounds.

If I pay to have them packed would you consider shipping them?
post #6696 of 18370
I'm interested in the quintuple 8s. you'll see a pm.
post #6697 of 18370
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Originally Posted by jbrown15 View Post

I know that this is probably comparing apples to oranges but would anyone have any insight at how some JTR Triple 12's or Triple 8ht's as LCRs would compare to a set of Ascend Acoustics Sierra towers with the new matching centre channel speaker? I'm looking to upgrade the front sound stage in my theater room. The Triple 12s would be at the top of my budget, and if I was going to go with the Sierras I would most likely go with the RAAL ribbon tweeter upgrade. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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I'm pretty sure the Sierra towers are a step up over Axion towers at least from what I've read.


Yep, and with a response down to 45hz anechoic, the sierra tower is no slouch, but if you are watching more movies than dedicated listening, I would suggest the JTR's every day of the week.
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Originally Posted by COACH2369 View Post

I got a chuckle out of that too...

Somebody in one of the forums made a comment about the Noesis about how they made their system achieve the "mini Imax" theater feel they were searching for.... I am hoping for the same effect, but I realize that I might not get there 100% by just adding the Noesis. It might include an upgrade of my subs at some point but for now, I am very happy with dual VTF-15'S..

Be prepared, as the JTR's will more than likely outgun those subs...but they will also outgun your ears pretty easily too...
post #6698 of 18370
Does anybody know what the crossover frequency used by Jeff is between the Woofer and Horn in the Noesis?
post #6699 of 18370
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Originally Posted by beastaudio View Post


Yep, and with a response down to 45hz anechoic, the sierra tower is no slouch, but if you are watching more movies than dedicated listening, I would suggest the JTR's every day of the week.
Be prepared, as the JTR's will more than likely outgun those subs...but they will also outgun your ears pretty easily too...

I am worried about that too.... Problem is, I can't upgrade both right now. If I do three Noesis, then it will be awhile before I can switch out my subs. Plus I am limited on space....but would love to fit a S2 in my FRONT3.JPG 22k .JPG file room.

Tried to add a picture to show the front of my room...not sure if it worked :confused:though.
post #6700 of 18370
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Originally Posted by COACH2369 View Post

I am worried about that too.... Problem is, I can't upgrade both right now. If I do three Noesis, then it will be awhile before I can switch out my subs. Plus I am limited on space....but would love to fit a S2 in my FRONT3.JPG 22k .JPG file room.

Tried to add a picture to show the front of my room...not sure if it worked :confused:though.

That's a pretty small space for Noesis LCR's. If that is what you have to work with I'd consider T8LP's instead of Noesis. You may also want to consider some room treatments cause from the photo you have a lot of reflective surfaces.

The dual 15's will be fine as long as you don't hear something more capable like the S2 or OS. There's always DIY if you get a hankering for more bass on the cheap (I can't believe I just said that tongue.gif).
post #6701 of 18370
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

That's a pretty small space for Noesis LCR's. If that is what you have to work with I'd consider T8LP's instead of Noesis. You may also want to consider some room treatments cause from the photo you have a lot of reflective surfaces.

The dual 15's will be fine as long as you don't hear something more capable like the S2 or OS. There's always DIY if you get a hankering for more bass on the cheap (I can't believe I just said that tongue.gif).

I agree that space seems tight from that picture for three Noesis, sub and equipment. Hard to tell from just one picture though. Perhaps you could move any sub you use away from under the screen to free up room (perhaps the left side wall)?
post #6702 of 18370
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Originally Posted by COACH2369 View Post

Does anybody know what the crossover frequency used by Jeff is between the Woofer and Horn in the Noesis?

The BMS coaxial CD is good down to 400hz but I am not positive if Jeff uses it that low.
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There's always DIY if you get a hankering for more bass on the cheap (I can't believe I just said that ).

And he is starting to see the light.... haha:cool:
post #6703 of 18370
The center channel is sitting on that cabinet and that is all it is there to do. All my equipment is in the back of the room in a rack.

My front row is about 8.5 feet from the screen...and the speakers are about 10 inches away from the wall.

So the Noesis might be "overkill" for that space?


I will say that the specs on my RF-7's are basically the same as the Noesis...so they will fit just fine.
post #6704 of 18370
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Originally Posted by beastaudio View Post

The BMS coaxial CD is good down to 400hz but I am not positive if Jeff uses it that low.
And he is starting to see the light.... haha:cool:

BMS says 300-22Khz.. Jeffs FR spec says 400-22Khz so that's a good guess.

Yeah, you guys are wearing me down ... tongue.gif
post #6705 of 18370
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Originally Posted by COACH2369 View Post

The center channel is sitting on that cabinet and that is all it is there to do. All my equipment is in the back of the room in a rack.

My front row is about 8.5 feet from the screen...and the speakers are about 10 inches away from the wall.

So the Noesis might be "overkill" for that space?


I will say that the specs on my RF-7's are basically the same as the Noesis...so they will fit just fine.

Hey, you did said you wanted speakers to last a long time (love them looong time wink.gif) so with that in mind, get the Noesis smile.gif. To get the very best out of them (or any speaker for that matter) you will need some EQ and or acoustic treatments. Most of the guys here have done some, to a lot of both in their HT's myself included. It does make a difference. cool.gif
post #6706 of 18370
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Originally Posted by COACH2369 View Post

Does anybody know what the crossover frequency used by Jeff is between the Woofer and Horn in the Noesis?

I know the horn is loaded down to 400hz and it says this on the JTR website.
post #6707 of 18370
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Originally Posted by carp View Post

No, those are JTR stands.

Ha, yeah I hear that a lot about the sockets. smile.gif

A few weeks ago I put some 244 bass trap panels I wasn't using to good use. My motivation was just so I wouldn't hear how I needed to take care of the sockets, but I do find I like the all black a lot better.






Here is a shot with a folding chair to get an idea of how large (IMO a good thing) these speakers are for those of you that haven't seen them in person.



I can't believe people are giving you a hard time about the white outlets and ignoring the elephant in the room, the white ceiling and nearly white floor. smile.gif Throw a dark rug in front of that screen and darken the ceiling and you will be amazed at the improvement of your image. You have stepped up your audio and your video is feeling left out. smile.gif

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Nice speakers by the way. Big upgrade over what you had and what you had were pretty good speakers.
Edited by AV Science Sales 5 - 1/11/13 at 10:13am
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post #6708 of 18370
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

Hey, you did said you wanted speakers to last a long time (love them looong time wink.gif) so with that in mind, get the Noesis smile.gif. To get the very best out of them (or any speaker for that matter) you will need some EQ and or acoustic treatments. Most of the guys here have done some, to a lot of both in their HT's myself included. It does make a difference. cool.gif

My thought process was, the bigger the better....that is why I looked at the Noesis or T12's from the beginning. The last thing I wanted to have happen is to go to all the trouble of upgrading and not get the "WOW" factor I am looking for if I went with the 8's..

Looks like having a demo of the Noesis done at my home isn't going to happen. I am looking forward to hearing the T12's and T8's in a few weeks, as that will be my only option of listening to JTR speakers before purchasing them.

Room treatments are on my list to get done soon. Any recommendations on where to look?
post #6709 of 18370
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Originally Posted by COACH2369 View Post

My thought process was, the bigger the better....that is why I looked at the Noesis or T12's from the beginning. The last thing I wanted to have happen is to go to all the trouble of upgrading and not get the "WOW" factor I am looking for if I went with the 8's..

Looks like having a demo of the Noesis done at my home isn't going to happen. I am looking forward to hearing the T12's and T8's in a few weeks, as that will be my only option of listening to JTR speakers before purchasing them.

Room treatments are on my list to get done soon. Any recommendations on where to look?

Contact Jeff. There is an HT12 owner in Knoxville. I have met him. I think there is an HT12 owner in Nashville also.
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post #6710 of 18370
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

I can't believe people are giving you a hard time about the white outlets and ignoring the elephant in the room, the white ceiling and nearly white floor. smile.gif Throw a dark rug in front of that screen and darken the ceiling and you will be amazed at the improvement of your image. You have stepped up your audio and your video is feeling left out. smile.gif

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Nice speakers by the way. Big upgrade over what you had and what you had were pretty good speakers.

Ha, no I hear that all the time too. I actually like my bright room - not saying I prefer it to the dark rooms I've been in but it's not enough of a difference right now to get me to paint the ceiling. We use our basement a lot, not just for movies and I like the fact that it's not a dark room. Someday I might do it, but I'm so much more into audio than I am video anyway so it's not a priority.
post #6711 of 18370
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

Contact Jeff. There is an HT12 owner in Knoxville. I have met him. I think there is an HT12 owner in Nashville also.

What do you mean by HT12?

I asked Jeff about anybody in this area with Noesis, but I guess I should have asked about his other speakers.

Thanks.
post #6712 of 18370
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Originally Posted by COACH2369 View Post

What do you mean by HT12?

I asked Jeff about anybody in this area with Noesis, but I guess I should have asked about his other speakers.

Thanks.
T12 - HT.
The Noesis has only been out for about 60 days so there just isn't that many owners yet.
I am sure that will change over the next year.
Chris
post #6713 of 18370
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Originally Posted by countryWV View Post


T12 - HT.
The Noesis has only been out for about 60 days so there just isn't that many owners yet.
I am sure that will change over the next year.
Chris[/quote

Duh, that makes sense and I should have realized that is what it meant...

Only 60 days... WOW. I thought these had been out longer.
post #6714 of 18370
I still have 3 2010 Triple 8s with newest xover and CDs that I'll make someone a hella good deal on. cool.gif
post #6715 of 18370
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Originally Posted by carp View Post

Ha, no I hear that all the time too. I actually like my bright room - not saying I prefer it to the dark rooms I've been in but it's not enough of a difference right now to get me to paint the ceiling. We use our basement a lot, not just for movies and I like the fact that it's not a dark room. Someday I might do it, but I'm so much more into audio than I am video anyway so it's not a priority.
I bought some black stretch velvet to cover the 12' x 6' area in front of my screen. I was hoping to have it ready for the Omaha Home Theater Tour, but didn't have time. I still haven't used it yet. I'm going to install grommets in the corners and use some eyehooks. That way I can black out the ceiling for movies, but have it white when used as a living room.
post #6716 of 18370
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I bought some black stretch velvet to cover the 12' x 6' area in front of my screen. I was hoping to have it ready for the Omaha Home Theater Tour, but didn't have time. I still haven't used it yet. I'm going to install grommets in the corners and use some eyehooks. That way I can black out the ceiling for movies, but have it white when used as a living room.

Great idea DD, thanks for the tip! I may have to try that. Do you think you can get it to stretch without sagging in the middle? Or are you planning to support with additional grommets/hooks in the middle?
post #6717 of 18370
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Originally Posted by carp View Post

Ha, no I hear that all the time too. I actually like my bright room - not saying I prefer it to the dark rooms I've been in but it's not enough of a difference right now to get me to paint the ceiling. We use our basement a lot, not just for movies and I like the fact that it's not a dark room. Someday I might do it, but I'm so much more into audio than I am video anyway so it's not a priority.
I think your white ceiling is a nice contrast and really makes your room pop without over doing it.
Keep it just like it is.
Chris
post #6718 of 18370
I am thinking about getting some more prostar (the self adhesive black felt stuff that I have on my masking panels) to put above the screen. On dark scenes the black bars show up above the screen on the wall and a little bit on the ceiling and on that beam. In non dark scenes you don't see them at all, but I'm to the point where it's bugging me a little bit.
post #6719 of 18370
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Originally Posted by Gorilla83 View Post

Great idea DD, thanks for the tip! I may have to try that. Do you think you can get it to stretch without sagging in the middle? Or are you planning to support with additional grommets/hooks in the middle?
I'm concerned most with keeping it tight against my screen housing. If it doesn't stretch tight with just corner grommets, then I'll have extra grommets along that edge.
post #6720 of 18370
Blacking out the ceiling, walls and floor out from the screen is one of the best improvements you can make to video quality. I bought some remote controlled curtain tracks off ebay and installed them along the walls in my old room. When I wanted to watch, I hit the remote and black velvet curtains went down the length of the room. I had a dark oriental rug so didn't mess with the floor but covered the ceiling in black velvet. You don't need to do the whole room, just 6' out from the screen or so. Your picture will absolutely pop. Without the black velvet treatments, I find the picture way too washed out.
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