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Originally Posted by jbrown15 View Post

When you guys mention the Noesis speakers are you talking about the 3TX or 2AX? Those are the only two I see on the JTR website.

Neither, those are the pro versions. Here are the residential versions.

http://jtrspeakers.com/home-audio/noesis-212ht/



post #6692 of 8265
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Originally Posted by countryWV View Post

I do have to say the T12's are the sh-t. Listening to them makes me feel like I am talking to a girl thats completely out of my league.smile.gif
Chris

So "the Sh-t" is a good thing ? tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by carp View Post

Haha, I got a chuckle out of this because that's a great way to describe how I feel with the Noesis. I still can't believe I own these speakers!! biggrin.gif
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I know what you mean. I was talking to Jeff the other day and he said business has been a little slow. With speakers like these at the prices he is asking it is just crazy that he isn't swamped with orders.

Only goes to prove the old marketing axiom:
Give me a C level product and an A level marketing plan and I'll give you a winner every time.
Sad, but true ...
post #6693 of 8265
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Originally Posted by carp View Post

Haha, I got a chuckle out of this because that's a great way to describe how I feel with the Noesis. I still can't believe I own these speakers!! biggrin.gif


BTW, I did not want to imply that ANY of the discussed speakers compare to my lowly Chiefs haha.... ugh, it's really not funny, I found myself watching and rooting for the godda*n Broncos this year because of Payton Manning and because there is no reason to root against the Broncos liike I usually do since the Chiefs are so horrible.

won't gloat but that is why Nuance and I are so happy. Go Pack.. This is going to get me in a lot of trouble here on AVS I know it, but hey I'm used to it my wife is a Bears fan!!
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Originally Posted by lbrown105 View Post

won't gloat but that is why Nuance and I are so happy. Go Pack.. This is going to get me in a lot of trouble here on AVS I know it, but hey I'm used to it my wife is a Bears fan!!

I'm pretty sure you, Nuance and Craig John will all be crying in your beer on Sat night ... tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

I'm pretty sure you, Nuance and Craig John will all be crying in your beer on Sat night ... tongue.gif

Ohhh sh*t I knew I started it now!
post #6696 of 8265
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Originally Posted by lbrown105 View Post

Ohhh sh*t I knew I started it now!

Yeah ... next up, religion and politics! tongue.gif
post #6697 of 8265
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

So "the Sh-t" is a good thing ? tongue.gif
I know what you mean. I was talking to Jeff the other day and he said business has been a little slow. With speakers like these at the prices he is asking it is just crazy that he isn't swamped with orders.

Only goes to prove the old marketing axiom:
Give me a C level product and an A level marketing plan and I'll give you a winner every time.
Sad, but true ...

Product/Marketing is what I do for a living. I could help out Jeff if it is something he is open to. I agree that there is no marketing that I have seen for JTR and living off word of mouth is great but will never get you maximum results financially....which may not even be what Jeff is after. The problem with growth is it brings on a whole new set of headaches that Jeff might not be interested in. Could be 100% happy exactly the way it is.
post #6698 of 8265
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Originally Posted by carp View Post

Neither, those are the pro versions. Here are the residential versions.

http://jtrspeakers.com/home-audio/noesis-212ht/




I'm going to take a wild guess that these cost more then Triple 12s? Which would put they over my budget.
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Originally Posted by jbrown15 View Post

I'm going to take a wild guess that these cost more then Triple 12s? Which would put they over my budget.

Yes, the Noesis retail is on the website (believe it is $2199 from memory) and costs more than the T12s..
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

I'm pretty sure you, Nuance and Craig John will all be crying in your beer on Sat night ... tongue.gif
I'm down with San Fran too. Randy Moss is on that team and he is a local hero. He just needs a Super Bowl Ring to complete his hall of fame career.wink.gif
Bad attitude or not he smells just like my T12's b/c he is the sh**. biggrin.gif
Chris
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Originally Posted by Frohlich View Post

Product/Marketing is what I do for a living. I could help out Jeff if it is something he is open to. I agree that there is no marketing that I have seen for JTR and living off word of mouth is great but will never get you maximum results financially....which may not even be what Jeff is after. The problem with growth is it brings on a whole new set of headaches that Jeff might not be interested in. Could be 100% happy exactly the way it is.

I've seen Mark Seaton post before that growing too fast can be just as dangerous as not growing fast enough. That's why he keeps his website the way it is and doesn't do much marketing other than word of mouth. Could be the same deal with Jeff.
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Originally Posted by carp View Post

I've seen Mark Seaton post before that growing too fast can be just as dangerous as not growing fast enough. That's why he keeps his website the way it is and doesn't do much marketing other than word of mouth. Could be the same deal with Jeff.
Your right. A big problem is the steady availability of parts. It is very common to be waiting months on certain parts for both subs and speakers. Till the supply remains constant it will be word of mouth thats why this forum is so helpful.
Chris
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Originally Posted by carp View Post

Neither, those are the pro versions. Here are the residential versions.

http://jtrspeakers.com/home-audio/noesis-212ht/




Great setup!
Sorry, but I just have to nitpick on the white power socket cover.. I think you need some black one to make this perfect!! smile.gif

I love those stand. did you make it yourself??
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

I'm pretty sure you, Nuance and Craig John will all be crying in your beer on Sat night ... tongue.gif
We'll see.
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Originally Posted by fight4yu View Post

Great setup!
Sorry, but I just have to nitpick on the white power socket cover.. I think you need some black one to make this perfect!! smile.gif

I love those stand. did you make it yourself??

No, those are JTR stands.

Ha, yeah I hear that a lot about the sockets. smile.gif

A few weeks ago I put some 244 bass trap panels I wasn't using to good use. My motivation was just so I wouldn't hear how I needed to take care of the sockets, but I do find I like the all black a lot better.






Here is a shot with a folding chair to get an idea of how large (IMO a good thing) these speakers are for those of you that haven't seen them in person.


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need to get rid of a few jtr speakers, pick them up from me in staten island, ny this weekend- sat/sunday only, i have these listed in the classifieds for significantly more. priced to move..

$1800 for 3x JTR Quintuple 2010 model with 2011 upgrades (crossover/compression driver)

$800 for 2x JTR Triple 8 2010 models!

daughter is zooming around everywhere in her walker, and i got the feeling that leaving these standing in my living room will not be safe for much longer.
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Man, I wish the T8's were shippable. They would be perfect for my surrounds.

If I pay to have them packed would you consider shipping them?
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I'm interested in the quintuple 8s. you'll see a pm.
post #6709 of 8265
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Originally Posted by jbrown15 View Post

I know that this is probably comparing apples to oranges but would anyone have any insight at how some JTR Triple 12's or Triple 8ht's as LCRs would compare to a set of Ascend Acoustics Sierra towers with the new matching centre channel speaker? I'm looking to upgrade the front sound stage in my theater room. The Triple 12s would be at the top of my budget, and if I was going to go with the Sierras I would most likely go with the RAAL ribbon tweeter upgrade. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Originally Posted by jbrown15 View Post

I'm pretty sure the Sierra towers are a step up over Axion towers at least from what I've read.


Yep, and with a response down to 45hz anechoic, the sierra tower is no slouch, but if you are watching more movies than dedicated listening, I would suggest the JTR's every day of the week.
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Originally Posted by COACH2369 View Post

I got a chuckle out of that too...

Somebody in one of the forums made a comment about the Noesis about how they made their system achieve the "mini Imax" theater feel they were searching for.... I am hoping for the same effect, but I realize that I might not get there 100% by just adding the Noesis. It might include an upgrade of my subs at some point but for now, I am very happy with dual VTF-15'S..

Be prepared, as the JTR's will more than likely outgun those subs...but they will also outgun your ears pretty easily too...
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Does anybody know what the crossover frequency used by Jeff is between the Woofer and Horn in the Noesis?
post #6711 of 8265
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Originally Posted by beastaudio View Post


Yep, and with a response down to 45hz anechoic, the sierra tower is no slouch, but if you are watching more movies than dedicated listening, I would suggest the JTR's every day of the week.
Be prepared, as the JTR's will more than likely outgun those subs...but they will also outgun your ears pretty easily too...

I am worried about that too.... Problem is, I can't upgrade both right now. If I do three Noesis, then it will be awhile before I can switch out my subs. Plus I am limited on space....but would love to fit a S2 in my FRONT3.JPG 22k .JPG file room.

Tried to add a picture to show the front of my room...not sure if it worked :confused:though.
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Originally Posted by COACH2369 View Post

I am worried about that too.... Problem is, I can't upgrade both right now. If I do three Noesis, then it will be awhile before I can switch out my subs. Plus I am limited on space....but would love to fit a S2 in my FRONT3.JPG 22k .JPG file room.

Tried to add a picture to show the front of my room...not sure if it worked :confused:though.

That's a pretty small space for Noesis LCR's. If that is what you have to work with I'd consider T8LP's instead of Noesis. You may also want to consider some room treatments cause from the photo you have a lot of reflective surfaces.

The dual 15's will be fine as long as you don't hear something more capable like the S2 or OS. There's always DIY if you get a hankering for more bass on the cheap (I can't believe I just said that tongue.gif).
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

That's a pretty small space for Noesis LCR's. If that is what you have to work with I'd consider T8LP's instead of Noesis. You may also want to consider some room treatments cause from the photo you have a lot of reflective surfaces.

The dual 15's will be fine as long as you don't hear something more capable like the S2 or OS. There's always DIY if you get a hankering for more bass on the cheap (I can't believe I just said that tongue.gif).

I agree that space seems tight from that picture for three Noesis, sub and equipment. Hard to tell from just one picture though. Perhaps you could move any sub you use away from under the screen to free up room (perhaps the left side wall)?
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Originally Posted by COACH2369 View Post

Does anybody know what the crossover frequency used by Jeff is between the Woofer and Horn in the Noesis?

The BMS coaxial CD is good down to 400hz but I am not positive if Jeff uses it that low.
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There's always DIY if you get a hankering for more bass on the cheap (I can't believe I just said that ).

And he is starting to see the light.... haha:cool:
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The center channel is sitting on that cabinet and that is all it is there to do. All my equipment is in the back of the room in a rack.

My front row is about 8.5 feet from the screen...and the speakers are about 10 inches away from the wall.

So the Noesis might be "overkill" for that space?


I will say that the specs on my RF-7's are basically the same as the Noesis...so they will fit just fine.
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Originally Posted by beastaudio View Post

The BMS coaxial CD is good down to 400hz but I am not positive if Jeff uses it that low.
And he is starting to see the light.... haha:cool:

BMS says 300-22Khz.. Jeffs FR spec says 400-22Khz so that's a good guess.

Yeah, you guys are wearing me down ... tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by COACH2369 View Post

The center channel is sitting on that cabinet and that is all it is there to do. All my equipment is in the back of the room in a rack.

My front row is about 8.5 feet from the screen...and the speakers are about 10 inches away from the wall.

So the Noesis might be "overkill" for that space?


I will say that the specs on my RF-7's are basically the same as the Noesis...so they will fit just fine.

Hey, you did said you wanted speakers to last a long time (love them looong time wink.gif) so with that in mind, get the Noesis smile.gif. To get the very best out of them (or any speaker for that matter) you will need some EQ and or acoustic treatments. Most of the guys here have done some, to a lot of both in their HT's myself included. It does make a difference. cool.gif
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Originally Posted by COACH2369 View Post

Does anybody know what the crossover frequency used by Jeff is between the Woofer and Horn in the Noesis?

I know the horn is loaded down to 400hz and it says this on the JTR website.
post #6719 of 8265
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Originally Posted by carp View Post

No, those are JTR stands.

Ha, yeah I hear that a lot about the sockets. smile.gif

A few weeks ago I put some 244 bass trap panels I wasn't using to good use. My motivation was just so I wouldn't hear how I needed to take care of the sockets, but I do find I like the all black a lot better.






Here is a shot with a folding chair to get an idea of how large (IMO a good thing) these speakers are for those of you that haven't seen them in person.



I can't believe people are giving you a hard time about the white outlets and ignoring the elephant in the room, the white ceiling and nearly white floor. smile.gif Throw a dark rug in front of that screen and darken the ceiling and you will be amazed at the improvement of your image. You have stepped up your audio and your video is feeling left out. smile.gif

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Nice speakers by the way. Big upgrade over what you had and what you had were pretty good speakers.
Edited by AV Science Sales 5 - 1/11/13 at 10:13am
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post #6720 of 8265
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

Hey, you did said you wanted speakers to last a long time (love them looong time wink.gif) so with that in mind, get the Noesis smile.gif. To get the very best out of them (or any speaker for that matter) you will need some EQ and or acoustic treatments. Most of the guys here have done some, to a lot of both in their HT's myself included. It does make a difference. cool.gif

My thought process was, the bigger the better....that is why I looked at the Noesis or T12's from the beginning. The last thing I wanted to have happen is to go to all the trouble of upgrading and not get the "WOW" factor I am looking for if I went with the 8's..

Looks like having a demo of the Noesis done at my home isn't going to happen. I am looking forward to hearing the T12's and T8's in a few weeks, as that will be my only option of listening to JTR speakers before purchasing them.

Room treatments are on my list to get done soon. Any recommendations on where to look?
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