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post #6781 of 8259
COACH2369 - As someone who bought the T12's and never heard JTR speakers prior to spending nearly $4k on a used set of LCR, I can tell you with 100% confidence that I do not regret my purchase AT ALL!

I was initially looking at the same Klipsch setup you mentioned - RC-64ii and RF-7ii setup, and I went and demo'd a setup locally. I thought they sounded really good, although a bit bright. I was on the verge of purchasing them and decided to do a bit more research before I went and made a big purchase. I then listened to B&W setups in the same price range, as well as other brands. I was then on the verge or purchasing some B&W speakers just liking the sound better than the Klipsch speakers, but again, I decided to just wait it out and do some more research.

Then I started hearing about JTR.

I was literally looking to demo some for over a month and could not find them. I was interested in the T8's to purchase initially because they were in my price range. I then did more and more research and found out about the T12's and those were out of my range. The more and more research I did I figured that JTR would most likely be my purchase, however it was tough to spend this kind of money without demo'ing anything. But based off opinion on here as well as hearing the JTR Captirvator subs (which I have 2 of now), it gave me more confidence that if the subs lived up to the hype I heard, I'm sure the speakers will too.

And then were was a deal for T12's I came across. I basically could get 3 used T12's for the same price as T8's new. So I said F' it and got the T12's.

And I can tell you that I am SSSSOOOOOO happy with the purchase. People are blown away by my setup and tell me it sounds better than a movie theater, and I agree. And this is only with a 3.2 setup - I don't have my surrounds yet!

I do plan to get either the T8's or Slanted 8's for my surrounds, kind of depends if a deal comes along or not if I get the T8's. I don't think I will spend that much money brand new for surrounds.

And as I'm sure some of the guys in this thread can tell you, once I got my speakers, I have not been around the boards NEARLY as much as I was prior. And it's simply because I've been enjoying the speakers and don't have anymore questions or research to do, which in a way kind of sucks too! It was fun coming here and learning and discussing the speakers.

But one thing is for sure - my 2 surround speakers will be 100% JTR speakers, I can guarantee you that, and whatever I get will be without hearing them first. I know they will sound awesome.

I can tell you that the T12's, IMO, are NOTICEABLY better than the RF7 and RC64 setup that I heard. Granted, they are also a much more expensive speaker, so it is to be expected. And keep in mind I liked the Klipsch a lot too, so it isn't that the Klipsch sound bad or anything, it is just that the T12's are that much better IMO.

So if you are only holding out because you want to hear them first, don't let that hold you back too much. These speakers are amazing.
post #6782 of 8259
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Originally Posted by purbeast View Post

COACH2369 - As someone who bought the T12's and never heard JTR speakers prior to spending nearly $4k on a used set of LCR, I can tell you with 100% confidence that I do not regret my purchase AT ALL!

I was initially looking at the same Klipsch setup you mentioned - RC-64ii and RF-7ii setup, and I went and demo'd a setup locally. I thought they sounded really good, although a bit bright. I was on the verge of purchasing them and decided to do a bit more research before I went and made a big purchase. I then listened to B&W setups in the same price range, as well as other brands. I was then on the verge or purchasing some B&W speakers just liking the sound better than the Klipsch speakers, but again, I decided to just wait it out and do some more research.

Then I started hearing about JTR.

I was literally looking to demo some for over a month and could not find them. I was interested in the T8's to purchase initially because they were in my price range. I then did more and more research and found out about the T12's and those were out of my range. The more and more research I did I figured that JTR would most likely be my purchase, however it was tough to spend this kind of money without demo'ing anything. But based off opinion on here as well as hearing the JTR Captirvator subs (which I have 2 of now), it gave me more confidence that if the subs lived up to the hype I heard, I'm sure the speakers will too.

And then were was a deal for T12's I came across. I basically could get 3 used T12's for the same price as T8's new. So I said F' it and got the T12's.

And I can tell you that I am SSSSOOOOOO happy with the purchase. People are blown away by my setup and tell me it sounds better than a movie theater, and I agree. And this is only with a 3.2 setup - I don't have my surrounds yet!

I do plan to get either the T8's or Slanted 8's for my surrounds, kind of depends if a deal comes along or not if I get the T8's. I don't think I will spend that much money brand new for surrounds.

And as I'm sure some of the guys in this thread can tell you, once I got my speakers, I have not been around the boards NEARLY as much as I was prior. And it's simply because I've been enjoying the speakers and don't have anymore questions or research to do, which in a way kind of sucks too! It was fun coming here and learning and discussing the speakers.

But one thing is for sure - my 2 surround speakers will be 100% JTR speakers, I can guarantee you that, and whatever I get will be without hearing them first. I know they will sound awesome.

I can tell you that the T12's, IMO, are NOTICEABLY better than the RF7 and RC64 setup that I heard. Granted, they are also a much more expensive speaker, so it is to be expected. And keep in mind I liked the Klipsch a lot too, so it isn't that the Klipsch sound bad or anything, it is just that the T12's are that much better IMO.

So if you are only holding out because you want to hear them first, don't let that hold you back too much. These speakers are amazing.

That sounds like something that should be posted on Jeff’s website…

Thank you for the detailed review and process you went through to get where you are now. I have been emailing and talking quite a bit with Jeff, other forum members and a few people I respect when it comes to audio.

One of my good buddies said, based on the tech specs, that he feels that the T8’s and T12’s will make a noticeable difference in my system. Then he said that the Noesis are the real deal and be a HUGE upgrade over my Klipsch system, giving me the dynamics I am in search of in a HT speaker….that had me grinning. :-D He did think that for the money I would be spending on the Noesis, a demo of at least the T8’s wouldn’t be a bad idea. This way I can get a good idea of how the speakers sound.

I am waiting to hear back from Jeff on a potential demo in my backyard. He found somebody close by that has some speakers and is in the process of getting in touch with the customer.

My goal is to make a decision within the next few days on what I will be doing. I am thinking about subs as well, but this will be a gradual process before everything is done.
post #6783 of 8259
Have a question for you guys regarding amps. I have a smaller room, 11 ft wide footer the first 8 ft, then opens up to 14 ft. it's about 28 ft long and 7 ft high. After reading the latest GTG thread where only the 4311CI (my current receiver) was used, I'm starting to question whether or not I actually need an amp or is it just a waste of money. I currently have a parasound a52, but I could always use the money if I were to sell it, especially sine I haven't bought the TV yet. Any thoughts? Thanks.

BTW, I have t8's for my LCR and S8's for my front heights.
post #6784 of 8259
Four years ago when my first wave of upgrade bug got to me I was shopping B&W and Klipsch and really wanted to take my system to another level. I listened to a lot of speakers and really loved the silky smooth sound of the 800 series B&W's but I knew they didn't have the output I was looking for. The JTR thread pushed me in this direction and I also bought my Triple 12LF's without ever hearing them. I've been really happy with them and do feel that a Neosis upgrade is in my future. A local GTG in April will be my deciding factor is I want to make the jump to the Neosis or not. Hell, if the right deal came along I'd probably upgrade before the GTG and without hearing the Neosis!
post #6785 of 8259
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Originally Posted by hogues View Post

Have a question for you guys regarding amps. I have a smaller room, 11 ft wide footer the first 8 ft, then opens up to 14 ft. it's about 28 ft long and 7 ft high. After reading the latest GTG thread where only the 4311CI (my current receiver) was used, I'm starting to question whether or not I actually need an amp or is it just a waste of money. I currently have a parasound a52, but I could always use the money if I were to sell it, especially sine I haven't bought the TV yet. Any thoughts? Thanks.

BTW, I have t8's for my LCR and S8's for my front heights.

My room is 20x27 and I have that same receiver powering 3 T12's, and I can get my LCR speakers to levels that I can't tolerate very easily without even pushing the speakers or AVR. My LCR are all set at -6.0db on my AVR, and around a volume of 2db it is nearly unbearable to listen to.

I don't have any surrounds hooked up right now though, so it is only powering 3 speakers. And this is without an amp.
post #6786 of 8259
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Originally Posted by hogues View Post

Have a question for you guys regarding amps. I have a smaller room, 11 ft wide footer the first 8 ft, then opens up to 14 ft. it's about 28 ft long and 7 ft high. After reading the latest GTG thread where only the 4311CI (my current receiver) was used, I'm starting to question whether or not I actually need an amp or is it just a waste of money. I currently have a parasound a52, but I could always use the money if I were to sell it, especially sine I haven't bought the TV yet. Any thoughts? Thanks.

BTW, I have t8's for my LCR and S8's for my front heights.
Try it without the amp for a month. If its not missed then its not needed. If you can tell a difference keep it.
This truly is a situation where you need to be the judge.
I like high power amps (1000wpc) or no amps at all.
Chris
post #6787 of 8259
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Originally Posted by purbeast View Post

My room is 20x27 and I have that same receiver powering 3 T12's, and I can get my LCR speakers to levels that I can't tolerate very easily without even pushing the speakers or AVR. My LCR are all set at -6.0db on my AVR, and around a volume of 2db it is nearly unbearable to listen to.

I don't have any surrounds hooked up right now though, so it is only powering 3 speakers. And this is without an amp.

I think you are correct however ... tongue.gif

That Art of Flight Bluray and the Deadmau 5 Alaska scene is like crack (not that I've tried crack wink.gif). Every time I play it for someone I end up pushing the MV up to +10 or more and just let that clean soul penetrating sound wash over me. Then, backing down to +2 or reference seems like a normal comfortable volume eek.gif.

But if I can be serious for a moment, I'm not sure that any AVR could provide the power necessary to do that ... Humm, maybe that's not such a bad thing ... smile.gif
post #6788 of 8259
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

I think you are correct however ... tongue.gif

That Art of Flight Bluray and the Deadmau 5 Alaska scene is like crack (not that I've tried crack wink.gif). Every time I play it for someone I end up pushing the MV up to +10 or more and just let that clean soul penetrating sound wash over me. Then, backing down to +2 or reference seems like a normal comfortable volume eek.gif.

But if I can be serious for a moment, I'm not sure that any AVR could provide the power necessary to do that ... Humm, maybe that's not such a bad thing ... smile.gif

Holy!!!!!! At -8 it sounds clean but like the walls are about to fall down at my house on Art of Flight. +10....YIKES!!!! My favorite demo blu ray for sure but those levels are insane for my inferior, and apparantly quite feminine, ear drums smile.gif
post #6789 of 8259
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Originally Posted by hogues View Post

Have a question for you guys regarding amps. I have a smaller room, 11 ft wide footer the first 8 ft, then opens up to 14 ft. it's about 28 ft long and 7 ft high. After reading the latest GTG thread where only the 4311CI (my current receiver) was used, I'm starting to question whether or not I actually need an amp or is it just a waste of money. I currently have a parasound a52, but I could always use the money if I were to sell it, especially sine I haven't bought the TV yet. Any thoughts? Thanks.

BTW, I have t8's for my LCR and S8's for my front heights.

That is about the same size as my room, and I listen at about 12 feet so it is easy to calculate how much wattage I technically need. Those pushing 1000 watts like headroom, and a lot of it. The T8's are good on the receiver unless you are running as RMK suggested at +10dB and in multi-channel stereo. remember it only takes 4 watts to get those T8's to reference at 3 feet. About 64 to get to reference at your seat at 12ft away.
post #6790 of 8259
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Originally Posted by Frohlich View Post

Holy!!!!!! At -8 it sounds clean but like the walls are about to fall down at my house on Art of Flight. +10....YIKES!!!! My favorite demo blu ray for sure but those levels are insane for my inferior, and apparantly quite feminine, ear drums smile.gif

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Originally Posted by beastaudio View Post

That is about the same size as my room, and I listen at about 12 feet so it is easy to calculate how much wattage I technically need. Those pushing 1000 watts like headroom, and a lot of it. The T8's are good on the receiver unless you are running as RMK suggested at +10dB and in multi-channel stereo. remember it only takes 4 watts to get those T8's to reference at 3 feet. About 64 to get to reference at your seat at 12ft away.

Did I suggest +10 eek.giftongue.gif

I am coming off as some kind of SLP junkie (perhaps deservedly so tongue.gif) but my "normal" movie listening is -10 to -12 (I think Dolby True HD is a little hotter) and with most recorded music it is more like -18. It is only occasionally that I venture into the SLP stratosphere.

I've got to make a point to get to the audiologist this year for a checkup. smile.gif
post #6791 of 8259
After reading these past several posts, I wonder if JTR has a sponsorship deal with MiracleEar or another hearing aid company...

I have heard that demo on some Cat 12's and it was quite the experience..eek.gif.
post #6792 of 8259
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

I think you are correct however ... tongue.gif

That Art of Flight Bluray and the Deadmau 5 Alaska scene is like crack (not that I've tried crack wink.gif). Every time I play it for someone I end up pushing the MV up to +10 or more and just let that clean soul penetrating sound wash over me. Then, backing down to +2 or reference seems like a normal comfortable volume eek.gif.

But if I can be serious for a moment, I'm not sure that any AVR could provide the power necessary to do that ... Humm, maybe that's not such a bad thing ... smile.gif

The last time I had the KC group over we (and by that i mean me biggrin.gif) got a little out of control with the volume control. We ran a few scenes to +12 with the subs running hot (dual submersives and a dual opposed Dayton 18" DIY monster running at the same time).

The Noesis had no problems at those levels being powered by a receiver.

Same kind of thing at the Iowa gtg, we watched open range and the art of flight at 10 over reference for short periods, and that is a huge room, and there was no hint of distortion at all.

It's like there is no limit with these speakers, that's what I'm searching for with subs too. Before people think I'm insane and will go deaf, I usually listen to music at 80-85 db's and movies at 12 under most of the time. I want the headroom for those rare times that I want to let loose.
post #6793 of 8259
I love the music and especially the concert dvd's really loud. I'm still trying to duplicate that concert feel of a well balanced sound, not too bright and not muddy but rather a nice smooth sound across all frequencies.

Any system can get loud but that is usually associated with fatigue. I want that clean sound that you hear with your ears but feel with your body.
post #6794 of 8259
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Originally Posted by carp View Post

The last time I had the KC group over we (and by that i mean me biggrin.gif) got a little out of control with the volume control. We ran a few scenes to +12 with the subs running hot (dual submersives and a dual opposed Dayton 18" DIY monster running at the same time).

The Noesis had no problems at those levels being powered by a receiver.

Same kind of thing at the Iowa gtg, we watched open range and the art of flight at 10 over reference for short periods, and that is a huge room, and there was no hint of distortion at all.

It's like there is no limit with these speakers, that's what I'm searching for with subs too. Before people think I'm insane and will go deaf, I usually listen to music at 80-85 db's and movies at 12 under most of the time. I want the headroom for those rare times that I want to let loose.

Good to know, anyone want to buy some perfectly good W4S amps? wink.gif

Re the high SPL, it may be a over used and lousy analogy but having the these speakers is like owning a great handling very fast car. Every once in a while you just have to let er rip. Overdoing it leads to hearling loss and moving violations ... tongue.gif
post #6795 of 8259
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

Good to know, anyone want to buy some perfectly good W4S amps? wink.gif

Re the high SPL, it may be a over used and lousy analogy but having the these speakers is like owning a great handling very fast car. Every once in a while you just have to let er rip. Overdoing it leads to hearling loss and moving violations ... tongue.gif
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Time for another upgrade?wink.gif
post #6796 of 8259
Saw this concert 14x and it was amazing. Loudest. clearest sound I have ever heard. This is my inspiration for my HT system. This show in Raleigh was significantly louder than the other venues. Although just a quick recording with my iPhone, notice everything shaking from the volume and the bass. AWESOME!

post #6797 of 8259
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Originally Posted by hogues View Post

Have a question for you guys regarding amps. I have a smaller room, 11 ft wide footer the first 8 ft, then opens up to 14 ft. it's about 28 ft long and 7 ft high. After reading the latest GTG thread where only the 4311CI (my current receiver) was used, I'm starting to question whether or not I actually need an amp or is it just a waste of money. I currently have a parasound a52, but I could always use the money if I were to sell it, especially sine I haven't bought the TV yet. Any thoughts? Thanks.

BTW, I have t8's for my LCR and S8's for my front heights.

Hi. my room is a bit smaller than you (about 23x12), but it opened up to the living room... I am leaning towards the T8-LP, as then I can hang those on the wall and make the family room looks nicer. Having said that, if this is not going to be the performance I need, then I could go with a T12-LP and make it is a stand.. So, how is the T8 LCR treat you? Any urge to feel like you need T12 or Neosis??
post #6798 of 8259
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Originally Posted by fight4yu View Post

Hi. my room is a bit smaller than you (about 23x12), but it opened up to the living room... I am leaning towards the T8-LP, as then I can hang those on the wall and make the family room looks nicer. Having said that, if this is not going to be the performance I need, then I could go with a T12-LP and make it is a stand.. So, how is the T8 LCR treat you? Any urge to feel like you need T12 or Neosis??

The room that I was talking about isn't finished yet. I do, however, have t8-lp's in my current living room. They are totally out of place right now and the whole setup just looks awful (obviously I'm single). I hooked them up to make sure they worked since they were used, but I just couldn't take them down, I liked them so much. I have no doubt that they will fit perfectly in my room. I haven't heard the Neosis, so I can't comment on them since they are a different beast, but I can't imagine that I would need the T12's, the T8's sound so good to me now. I wish that I could help you a bit more but my basement looks like it will be a while yet, so I can't say for sure if the T8-LP's are enough, but I think that they will be perfect. Once I have everything set up, I'll be sure to post back.

P.S. Thanks everyone for the help. I think that I'm going wait to sell and see how it sounds after everything is set up, unless some unforeseen expense jumps up. Obviously, any more feedback is greatly appreciated.
post #6799 of 8259
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Originally Posted by hogues View Post

The room that I was talking about isn't finished yet. I do, however, have t8-lp's in my current living room. They are totally out of place right now and the whole setup just looks awful (obviously I'm single). I hooked them up to make sure they worked since they were used, but I just couldn't take them down, I liked them so much. I have no doubt that they will fit perfectly in my room. I haven't heard the Neosis, so I can't comment on them since they are a different beast, but I can't imagine that I would need the T12's, the T8's sound so good to me now. I wish that I could help you a bit more but my basement looks like it will be a while yet, so I can't say for sure if the T8-LP's are enough, but I think that they will be perfect. Once I have everything set up, I'll be sure to post back.

P.S. Thanks everyone for the help. I think that I'm going wait to sell and see how it sounds after everything is set up, unless some unforeseen expense jumps up. Obviously, any more feedback is greatly appreciated.

I see. thanks for your input though! Good luck to your new room. I have no other room in my house (maybe another 10+ years when my kids moved out smile.gif), so I need to stick with my living room...Having a Neosis there does not pass WAF...
post #6800 of 8259
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Originally Posted by fight4yu View Post

I see. thanks for your input though! Good luck to your new room. I have no other room in my house (maybe another 10+ years when my kids moved out smile.gif), so I need to stick with my living room...Having a Neosis there does not pass WAF...

Thanks, I'll need the luck. This is what happens when you have a retaliative doing the work for you. It's a lot cheaper, but when another job comes up, that takes priority understandably. I just didn't think that it would take this long. I can see the Neosis not passing the WAF. Frankly, the T8-LP's are big and heavy as well. Try to see them in person before you buy. That being said, I have them set up in my living room in a less than ideal position and they sound fantastic. I highly recommend them!
post #6801 of 8259
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Originally Posted by fight4yu View Post

Hi. my room is a bit smaller than you (about 23x12), but it opened up to the living room... I am leaning towards the T8-LP, as then I can hang those on the wall and make the family room looks nicer. Having said that, if this is not going to be the performance I need, then I could go with a T12-LP and make it is a stand.. So, how is the T8 LCR treat you? Any urge to feel like you need T12 or Neosis??

My room is not quite as big as yours, 15x14. I have vented T8s. The only thing that makes me want to upgrade is reading the rave reviews about the Noesis. From a sound quality and output standpoint, I am still blown away by the T8's. When used with my S2, i get the wall of sound feeling you get at an IMAX with absolutely no distortion. Remember, that people use these to fill gymnasiums with sound. Unless you have a huge room, the T8-LP will be all you ever need to make it sound better than a movie theater. Not having experienced the T12's or Noesis, I can't be sure how much better they are, but I can say you will be very satisfied with the T8-LP's. I believe the output is similar between the vented and LP versions. Since the T8's will work for you size wise, I would buy them and not worry about how much better the 12's or Noesis might be.

There has been talk on this forum about the T8's and music, and you could come away with the impression that the T8's are somehow sub par with respect to music. We need to remember that these are amazing speakers for music and any negative comments are only in comparison to other JTR products and other very high end speakers. I love these speakers for music. They never fail to put a smile on my face.
post #6802 of 8259
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Originally Posted by hogues View Post

Have a question for you guys regarding amps. I have a smaller room, 11 ft wide footer the first 8 ft, then opens up to 14 ft. it's about 28 ft long and 7 ft high. After reading the latest GTG thread where only the 4311CI (my current receiver) was used, I'm starting to question whether or not I actually need an amp or is it just a waste of money. I currently have a parasound a52, but I could always use the money if I were to sell it, especially sine I haven't bought the TV yet. Any thoughts? Thanks.

BTW, I have t8's for my LCR and S8's for my front heights.

The 4311 will have plenty of power to drive the Noesis. As you and Carp pointed out during the Iowa GTG, during the entire "play-time" we were watching Open Range & the Art of Flight at ear bleeding levels (+5 to +10) with the 4311 driving them. Archaea has a YouTube video where he shows driving to reference with a little 20 watt amp as well.
post #6803 of 8259
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Originally Posted by fight4yu View Post

I see. thanks for your input though! Good luck to your new room. I have no other room in my house (maybe another 10+ years when my kids moved out smile.gif), so I need to stick with my living room...Having a Neosis there does not pass WAF...

Don't you own an Orbit Shifter?
post #6804 of 8259
Yes,
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Originally Posted by lbrown105 View Post

Don't you own an Orbit Shifter?
Yes, I do own an OS. I put it behind my couch and act as a table (my wife put a table runner and some decoration/flowers on top smile.gif, so it sort of work out that way. Other than that, whenever people coming over, she will quiz them on what it is and say I am crazy smile.gif Although whenever I play a movie (Flight on Phoenix), they are all amazed...I also have 4 Slanted8 as surround, so I am just lacking the LCR.
OK, I am sold again on T8-LP smile.gif I think you guys should stop talking about Neosis for a few days so I can make my decision. smile.gif
BTW, I should have the tweeter at my ear level, is this correct? I assume then I will need to ask Jeff to put it at the bottom. Right?
post #6805 of 8259
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Originally Posted by fight4yu View Post

Yes,
Yes, I do own an OS. I put it behind my couch and act as a table (my wife put a table runner and some decoration/flowers on top smile.gif, so it sort of work out that way. Other than that, whenever people coming over, she will quiz them on what it is and say I am crazy smile.gif Although whenever I play a movie (Flight on Phoenix), they are all amazed...I also have 4 Slanted8 as surround, so I am just lacking the LCR.
OK, I am sold again on T8-LP smile.gif I think you guys should stop talking about Neosis for a few days so I can make my decision. smile.gif
BTW, I should have the tweeter at my ear level, is this correct? I assume then I will need to ask Jeff to put it at the bottom. Right?

Yes, you want the tweeter at ear level. At least with the 2010 version it was pretty easy to switch coaxial driver from the middle to the end of the speaker, you can ask him to put it there or switch it yourself, if you ever change your room configuration you can switch it back.
post #6806 of 8259
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Originally Posted by gillfcb View Post

I am now on a mission to see if either the JTR or Chase Home Theater speakers are the best solution for my setup. I keep reading how equally matched L/R/C is important. If so, then the JTR12HTs are out because my center channel opening is only 25 5/8" w x 9 5/8" h x 17" d. I do not want to set a center channel on a stand, nor do I have a place to put it vertically.1.gif
With that dimension, the only one that will fit is T8-lp... In fact it fit almost perfectly (25 4/8 w x 9 5/8 h x 7 1/2)!!
post #6807 of 8259
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Originally Posted by fight4yu View Post

Yes,
Yes, I do own an OS. I put it behind my couch and act as a table (my wife put a table runner and some decoration/flowers on top smile.gif, so it sort of work out that way. Other than that, whenever people coming over, she will quiz them on what it is and say I am crazy smile.gif Although whenever I play a movie (Flight on Phoenix), they are all amazed...I also have 4 Slanted8 as surround, so I am just lacking the LCR.
OK, I am sold again on T8-LP smile.gif I think you guys should stop talking about Neosis for a few days so I can make my decision. smile.gif
BTW, I should have the tweeter at my ear level, is this correct? I assume then I will need to ask Jeff to put it at the bottom. Right?

I too am getting an Orbit Shifter... do you have problems identifying the bass location by putting it directly behind you? What frequency did you cross? Did you think 1 OS was enough?
post #6808 of 8259
Does any body have or know someone in the Atlanta GA with a set of jtr?
post #6809 of 8259
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Originally Posted by dlbeck View Post

The 4311 will have plenty of power to drive the Noesis. As you and Carp pointed out during the Iowa GTG, during the entire "play-time" we were watching Open Range & the Art of Flight at ear bleeding levels (+5 to +10) with the 4311 driving them. Archaea has a YouTube video where he shows driving to reference with a little 20 watt amp as well.

Thanks. It looks more and more like I'll go amp-less and save some money.
post #6810 of 8259
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Originally Posted by fight4yu View Post

Yes,
Yes, I do own an OS. I put it behind my couch and act as a table (my wife put a table runner and some decoration/flowers on top smile.gif, so it sort of work out that way. Other than that, whenever people coming over, she will quiz them on what it is and say I am crazy smile.gif Although whenever I play a movie (Flight on Phoenix), they are all amazed...I also have 4 Slanted8 as surround, so I am just lacking the LCR.
OK, I am sold again on T8-LP smile.gif I think you guys should stop talking about Neosis for a few days so I can make my decision. smile.gif
BTW, I should have the tweeter at my ear level, is this correct? I assume then I will need to ask Jeff to put it at the bottom. Right?

It would be awesome if you could stack another OS on top of that one with the port at head height when seated on the couch. Then add a lab gruppen 14k amp for all the sats including your new neosis front stage. eek.gif Actually the T8lp's would be a great addition. I used to run that speaker for center channel and it will pound out extreme detail clarity and spl to compliment your OS.
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