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post #6841 of 8433
1/18/13 at 6:15am
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Originally Posted by carp View Post

I know what you mean, I have 8 18" drivers that are supposed to be delivered tomorrow.
Eight 18 in subs!!!! Your going to need to update your earthquake insurance,are you building a IB system or are they going to be in sub enclosures?
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post #6842 of 8433
1/18/13 at 6:18am
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Originally Posted by dholmes54 View Post

Eight 18 in subs!!!! Your going to need to update your earthquake insurance,are you building a IB system or are they going to be in sub enclosures?

I'm going to go with 8 separate boxes for maximum flexibility with placement. IB is not an option for my room.

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post #6843 of 8433
1/18/13 at 6:22am
Wow,I know where to go if I need a kidney stone busted!!! Im sure its going to be great.
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post #6844 of 8433
1/18/13 at 6:33am
It really seems like there are a lot of us upgrading speakers and subs lately. Got my 2 CHT 18.2 subs a week ago and love them. Looking to add 4 more 18.1's as soon as my Caps sell. That'll give me the JTR Triple 12LF for LCR, B&W DM603s rears and a total of 8 18" drivers for subs. After adding the additional 4 subs I really think the upgrading will be done.
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post #6845 of 8433
1/18/13 at 6:33am
OH MY.... That is some serious bass...
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post #6846 of 8433
1/18/13 at 7:03am
I just talked to Jeff and my second S2 will ship next Friday (he was waiting on drivers from BMS). Still pales in comparison to what I am seeing from Carp eek.gifeek.gifsmile.gif
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post #6847 of 8433
1/18/13 at 7:46am
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Originally Posted by Frohlich View Post

I just talked to Jeff and my second S2 will ship next Friday (he was waiting on drivers from BMS). Still pales in comparison to what I am seeing from Carp eek.gifeek.gifsmile.gif

Maybe, maybe not ... for some bass is an addiction, the more they have, the more they need.
I think some folks here need an intervention ... wink.gif
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post #6848 of 8433
1/18/13 at 7:58am
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Originally Posted by Frohlich View Post

I just talked to Jeff and my second S2 will ship next Friday (he was waiting on drivers from BMS). Still pales in comparison to what I am seeing from Carp eek.gifeek.gifsmile.gif

I am doing the same too biggrin.gif haha

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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

Maybe, maybe not ... for some bass is an addiction, the more they have, the more they need.
I think some folks here need an intervention ... wink.gif

Oh stop it....First step is to admit you have a problem, which I don't lol
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post #6849 of 8433
1/18/13 at 8:05am
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

Maybe, maybe not ... for some bass is an addiction, the more they have, the more they need.
I think some folks here need an intervention ... wink.gif

50% of the reason I was getting a second S2 was the fill the visual hole in my set-up (as you can see from the picture below). The other 50% was because I can smile.gif

One S2 has plenty of bass for my listening habbits. Part of it was to smooth out the frequency response. Problem of course is now I need a Marantz AV8801 with xt32...my current Marantz AV7005 only has XT. It never ends smile.gif


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post #6850 of 8433
1/18/13 at 8:10am
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I am doing the same too biggrin.gif haha

I know you are..I saw your subwoofer porn...remember tongue.gif
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post #6851 of 8433
1/18/13 at 8:42am
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Originally Posted by Frohlich View Post

I just talked to Jeff and my second S2 will ship next Friday (he was waiting on drivers from BMS). Still pales in comparison to what I am seeing from Carp eek.gifeek.gifsmile.gif

Actually, we will have similar output. We tested a dual opposed 18" dayton sub (the dayton drivers are tested to be almost exactly like mine) and the output was just a touch more than my Submersive. 2 Submersives have the same output as 1 Cap Sealed 2. So, it would take 4 of my drivers to have a bit more output than 1 of your S2's.

So, 8 SI drivers equals a bit more than 2 Cap S2's.

The reason why I went this route was the price. I paid 1400 dollars shipped for all 8 drivers. If I could have afforded it I would have just bought 2 more Submersives and had quads, instead I'm selling the Submersives to fund this project. I already sold one, and if I like what I hear with the first couple SI subs I'll sell the other Submersive.
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post #6852 of 8433
1/18/13 at 8:42am
After reading and looking at the subs you guys have my 2 svs subs with duel 12 in drivers seams like babies,but my room is only 11.5 x 23 x 8 ft
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post #6853 of 8433
1/18/13 at 9:02am
The upgrades are never done it seems.



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post #6854 of 8433
1/18/13 at 9:47am
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Originally Posted by carp View Post

Actually, we will have similar output. We tested a dual opposed 18" dayton sub (the dayton drivers are tested to be almost exactly like mine) and the output was just a touch more than my Submersive. 2 Submersives have the same output as 1 Cap Sealed 2. So, it would take 4 of my drivers to have a bit more output than 1 of your S2's.

So, 8 SI drivers equals a bit more than 2 Cap S2's.

The reason why I went this route was the price. I paid 1400 dollars shipped for all 8 drivers. If I could have afforded it I would have just bought 2 more Submersives and had quads, instead I'm selling the Submersives to fund this project. I already sold one, and if I like what I hear with the first couple SI subs I'll sell the other Submersive.

2 SI drivers have more output than a single LMS 5400 which should have more output than a cap sealed driver. So yeah, your 8 subs would have more output than dual Cap2's. How much is guessing but I will say maybe 2-3 dBs at 10hz.
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post #6855 of 8433
1/18/13 at 9:51am
I have a Noesis question. To current owners, I know they get get great reviews. I am honestly 99% HT and gaming. I do listening to music but not all that critically or for long durations. So if the Noesis is a nice step up from the T12s for music...is the jump nearly as big for movies? It is been my experience from past speakers I have owned, that for two channel music, the speaker differences were pretty significant but for HT comparisons, those same speakers sounded a lot closer to each other. Do you agree that is the case with the Noesis?
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post #6856 of 8433
1/18/13 at 10:05am
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Originally Posted by Frohlich View Post

I have a Noesis question. To current owners, I know they get get great reviews. I am honestly 99% HT and gaming. I do listening to music but not all that critically or for long durations. So if the Noesis is a nice step up from the T12s for music...is the jump nearly as big for movies? It is been my experience from past speakers I have owned, that for two channel music, the speaker differences were pretty significant but for HT comparisons, those same speakers sounded a lot closer to each other. Do you agree that is the case with the Noesis?

Great question....I am wondering the same thing myself. Is the difference in the sound going to be worth the price difference.. If the price difference was much less, then I wouldn't be questioning it that much.. I am 100% movies myself.
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post #6857 of 8433
1/18/13 at 10:09am
I have older Triple 12LF's for LCR and my only desire to upgrade is due to music and concert DVD's. These speakers are incredible when watching TV, movies, etc. If I were only movies, gaming and TV the move to Noesis wouldn't be tempting at all.
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post #6858 of 8433
1/18/13 at 10:38am
I haven't heard the t12's, only the t8's but yes the difference is significant between the 888's and the Noesis on movies/tv.

The very first time I hooked up the Noesis (loaner pair) in my room I used one of them as the center channel to see how it did with voices. The Sunday night football preview was on and immediately when I hooked up the Noesis the sound was so good, and it was just Al Michaels talking for gods sake - truly, it was obvious how great these speakers sound just from watching tv. Voices just sound... real, like they are in the room. Very cool.

Like I said though, I have no experience with the t12's.
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post #6859 of 8433
1/18/13 at 10:42am
I have the 2009 triple 12s & been wanting the noesis cant afford them,wonder if I could get one and use it for center ch,would it sound bad with the older 12s for L-R?
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post #6860 of 8433
1/18/13 at 10:55am
I guess the obvious answer is if a speaker sounds better ... it sounds better for all material. Critical music listening is not something I do much of but the Noesis sound as good or better than anything I have heard with music.

I know the Triple 12's very well and had I never caught the Noesis bug, I'd be living happily with and loving the Triple12's. Does that help? wink.gif
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post #6861 of 8433
1/18/13 at 10:58am
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

I guess the obvious answer is if a speaker sounds better ... it sounds better for all material. Critical music listening is not something I do much of but the Noesis sound as good or better than anything I have heard with music.

I know the Triple 12's very well and had I never caught the Noesis bug, I'd be living happily with and loving the Triple12's. Does that help? wink.gif

NO!!! rolleyes.gifwink.gifsmile.gif

Truth is I have only had the T12s for a little over a month and love them....but like any good addicted AVS member I am always looking at "whats next". Good news (for my wallet) is golf season starts soon which is my other addiction and I usually lay off the HT purchases and save those for winter time.
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post #6862 of 8433
1/18/13 at 11:06am
Going back and forth between the T8'S/T12's or the Noesis has been quite exhausting for sure. I have a T12 demo tomorrow, which should either help tremendously or increase the challenge of picking which model to go with...

Maybe I won't like the sound at all and stick with my Klipsch speakers.rolleyes.gif..
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post #6863 of 8433
1/18/13 at 11:06am
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Originally Posted by Frohlich View Post

NO!!! rolleyes.gifwink.gifsmile.gif

Truth is I have only had the T12s for a little over a month and love them....but like any good addicted AVS member I am always looking at "whats next". Good news (for my wallet) is golf season starts soon which is my other addiction and I usually lay off the HT purchases and save those for winter time.

Ain't that the truth! Golf and boating season is around the corner for me.
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post #6864 of 8433
1/18/13 at 11:12am
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Originally Posted by SeaNile View Post

Ain't that the truth! Golf and boating season is around the corner for me.

Ok, are we the same person eek.gifsmile.gif

Seems our rooms look similar, we have a similar JTR speaker line-up and we have the same hobbies. I already planned two golf trips for this year. One in the Spring to Tennesse and one in August up to Michigan.
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post #6865 of 8433
1/18/13 at 11:19am
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Originally Posted by Frohlich View Post

Ok, are we the same person eek.gifsmile.gif

Seems our rooms look similar, we have a similar JTR speaker line-up and we have the same hobbies. I already planned two golf trips for this year. One in the Spring to Tennesse and one in August up to Michigan.

What part of Tennessee?

Lots of good golf down here... I grew up on a golf course(Western Hills Country Club) and I have found the golf in the Knoxville area to be excellent and MUCH cheaper than up in Ohio..
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post #6866 of 8433
1/18/13 at 11:50am
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Originally Posted by COACH2369 View Post

What part of Tennessee?

Lots of good golf down here... I grew up on a golf course(Western Hills Country Club) and I have found the golf in the Knoxville area to be excellent and MUCH cheaper than up in Ohio..

The Michigan trip is booked. We are heading to Augusta, Michigan to play Yarrow and The Gull Lake courses. 36 holes a day for 4 days...gets tiring but its also a blast. The Tennesse trip will likely be to Crossville with some buddies from work but we haven't officially booked that trip yet. Looking at playing Stonehenge and Bear Trace as well as some others. Likely be three days worth of golf.
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post #6867 of 8433
1/18/13 at 11:53am
Crossville... Golf capital of Tennessee. I am out there all the time for work and have played there one time..

The last golf trip I took we did 27 holes a day for four days.... Great time!
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post #6868 of 8433
1/18/13 at 12:33pm
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Originally Posted by dholmes54 View Post

After reading and looking at the subs you guys have my 2 svs subs with duel 12 in drivers seams like babies,but my room is only 11.5 x 23 x 8 ft

My room is about the same, just love bass.

Enough talk about golf, you guys are making me antsy...
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post #6869 of 8433
1/18/13 at 12:35pm
Seems there is some commonalty here. You guys should make a run out to the Monterey Peninsula and we can meet up for a few expensive rounds at some of the best courses in the world.

I used to play a lot (played in College) but now it's business golf only. Muscle memory is fading due to lack of playing let alone practice but I can still get it done on occasion. wink.gif

Oh, and just to rub it in although this isn't Florida, it's always golf season here in California ...
Edited by RMK! - 1/18/13 at 12:41pm
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post #6870 of 8433
1/18/13 at 12:39pm
Sounds like we could do an all JTR golf outing eek.gifsmile.gif
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