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post #6961 of 8265
Go with 12, thats way to short to bother with 10 gauge.
post #6962 of 8265
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Originally Posted by Gorilla83 View Post

Beast - you need to take a road trip to NYC to grab those t8s in the classifieds. They are cheap!!

Yeah man I just don't have time to drive up there right now unfortunately. But damn it is a great price, even though they are the 2010 models. Wonder how much has changed in them.
post #6963 of 8265
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Originally Posted by COACH2369 View Post

Well, I finally had the opportunity to listen to a set of JTR speakers. A fellow forum member welcomed me into his home yesterday for a lunch hour demo. He has the following in his room:
3 – T12’s, 2010 models, no updates
2 – Slanted 8’s
1 – BIGGGGG Oribit Shifter

First impressions were…. They look much bigger in person, yet I like the way they look. The speakers are well built and boy do they weigh a ton!!

The OS resembles something out of a commercial A/C installation and I can only imagine how fun it was lugging that thing up the steps to the bonus room.

We listened to several scenes of some blu-rays, all movies I hadn’t seen before, and they sounded amazing. Great dynamics and plenty of bass….

Since I wanted to hear something I would be familiar with, we put in “The Dark Knight” and listened to chapter 20 or 21, where they go under ground and get ambushed by the Joker…..This is where I could tell how special these speakers are how big of an improvement they are over my Klipsch setup.

He had the CD’s on the Left and Right speaker located at the top and didn’t have the speakers on a stand. It seems like that put them at the perfect listening position for at least the first row of seats….Oh well for my second row. HaHa

After yesterday, it is quite obvious why this thread is so active. These speakers were everything they were advertised to be. It was shocking to me how much better they sounded than my Klipsch RF-7II/RC-64II setup. I do realize that they could sound different in my room, but I can’t imagine they would sound worse. If anything, they could sound a bit better.

I am sold and will be owning some VERY soon… ;-D

That's great coach, I'm happy the long drive for a demo was worthwhile. The compression driver and crossover in the T12's you heard have been upgraded and the newer models play a bit cleaner. That said, I doubt the differences could be heard in a DB test. Your fresh ears experience is very similar to mine when I first heard the T12's and I wasted no time in buying them. I have never regretted that decision. cool.gif

Note, I let you slide on the derogatory comments regarding my beautiful Orbit Shifter's... OK, well maybe they are a little homely but they can make beautiful music and blur your vision to the point where you can't see them anyway. Definitely meant to be heard, not seen tongue.gif

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Originally Posted by purbeast View Post

Well that is what I'm debating. I was originally going to get the T8's for my mains. But I saw a deal for T12's that was about the cost of T8's new, so I went for those instead, and I'm sure they are overkill lol.

So I'm kind of in the same boat now - looking for used T8's if I can find them for the same price as new Slanted 8's. My room is odd in that the surrounds are going to be offset a bit. The left one is going to be significantly further away from the listening area than the right one, and I'm just wondering how the Slanted 8's would hold up in that situation.

I'm sure T8's would be overkill for my area, but like you, I like overkill smile.gif

My room is asymmetrical and the left surround is 12" from the Center LP as opposed to the right surround being 8'. When these speakers are level matched the distance delta is not noticeable.

I have had the Slanted 8's and the Triple 8's as surrounds and for multi-channel music the Triple 8's did sound like a better match to the Triple 12 and Noesis LCR's, If you do a lot of MC music the Triple 8-LP's are IMHO the best choice but for movie surround effects either the single or slanted 8's are also excellent,
Edited by RMK! - 1/23/13 at 8:41am
post #6964 of 8265
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Originally Posted by purbeast View Post

What were your impressions of those SLanted 8's as the surrounds? How far away from the listening position were they?

The reason I'm asking is because I have T12's as my front 3 and am not 100% set on surrounds yet. Would like to hear what you think about them as far as surrounds go

And yes, I blind-purchased my speakers and they were all that and then some! They exceeded my expectations. I was initially going to buy that exact Klipsch setup you have and demo'd a setup as well. I'm very glad I did not rush into the purchase and waited to do more research, and ended up with these smile.gif


The Slanted 8’s did very well as surround speakers. I don’t know how I would compare them to what I currently have, Klipsch RS-52II’s and RB-61II’s, because he was only running 5.1 and I have 7.1. They were directly on the side of where we were sitting and only about 6 feet away at the most.

IMO, I feel like my current surrounds will do just fine for the time being. Eventually, I will upgrade to all JTR’s for surrounds because I like to have all the same speaker….but that is me.
post #6965 of 8265
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Originally Posted by carp View Post

Glad to hear you liked them coach. Are you going to go with the triple 12's?

That still hasn't been decided yet. I am weighing a few options right now...it is all about the $$$ and Co-CFO in the house:rolleyes:..
post #6966 of 8265
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Originally Posted by COACH2369 View Post

That still hasn't been decided yet. I am weighing a few options right now...it is all about the $$$ and Co-CFO in the house:rolleyes:..

I am glad you liked the demo Coach...I had a feeling you would smile.gif
post #6967 of 8265
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Originally Posted by purbeast View Post

Yeah man I just don't have time to drive up there right now unfortunately. But damn it is a great price, even though they are the 2010 models. Wonder how much has changed in them.

For surround use I'm sure the 2010 version is far more than adequate. I know the compression drivers and crossover have been upgraded since.

Dude, for 400 a speaker it's worth paying a buddy 150 for so to take the day and go pick them up. smile.gif
post #6968 of 8265
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Originally Posted by Gorilla83 View Post

For surround use I'm sure the 2010 version is far more than adequate. I know the compression drivers and crossover have been upgraded since.

Dude, for 400 a speaker it's worth paying a buddy 150 for so to take the day and go pick them up. smile.gif

I agree with this viewpoint. I would focus 80% of my attention/resources on the front 3 channels matching sonically and a high quality subwoofer. The surround speakers aren’t as important from a sonic match standpoint and whether you grab 09 vs 10 vs 11 versions of the speakers, I wouldn’t sweat it too much.
post #6969 of 8265
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Originally Posted by Gorilla83 View Post

For surround use I'm sure the 2010 version is far more than adequate. I know the compression drivers and crossover have been upgraded since.

Dude, for 400 a speaker it's worth paying a buddy 150 for so to take the day and go pick them up. smile.gif

Well ... you want to make $150? lol.

Yea I mean I'd pay him to ship them he just does not want to do that either. But it would cost probably close to $150 in gas/tolls going to pick them up as well.
post #6970 of 8265
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Originally Posted by purbeast View Post

Just wanted to quote myself since I just ran Audyssey...

After running it, as well as making a few adjustments such as crossover for the LCR speakers, and making adjustments to the LCR and sub levels, I'm glad to say that I'm back in business!

It's just incredible how much of a difference Audyssey can make. It literally made my system go from sounding like a wimpy weak system to sounding better than a damn movie theater.

It is also incredible how exactly opposite of that Audyssey can do as well in some rooms! haha.
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Originally Posted by purbeast View Post

Well ... you want to make $150? lol.

Yea I mean I'd pay him to ship them he just does not want to do that either. But it would cost probably close to $150 in gas/tolls going to pick them up as well.

Man, it would probably be March before I had time to make another day trip, haha. If I had the time or need, I probably would have bought them myself by now.

Glad to hear you got your system back up to spec. cool.gif
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TBH if i wasent building my own speakers i would have purchased those T8s when they first poped up smile.gif
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Hey guys, just found out about JTR speakers yesterday. I am building a dedicated home theater room, 23'L x 15'W x 9'H. AT screen 3' out from the back wall. My sub will be 4 of Gorrilla's 18" dual opposed design. I have one cabinet built smile.gif . I am liking what I have been reading about these speakers. I am currently running Ascend Acoustics 340's in my current room. Once the new house is done with the new room new speakers are a must. I was thinking Triple 12's or 8's for the front and slanted 8's for the surrounds. I live in West Michigan and would love to demo some of these speakers. Does anyone live in the area?
Aaron
post #6974 of 8265
JTR is in Wisconsin. you might not be that far and can just go there directly.

assuming you have a boat. forgot about that lake wink.gif
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Originally Posted by Diesel 48 View Post

Hey guys, just found out about JTR speakers yesterday. I am building a dedicated home theater room, 23'L x 15'W x 9'H. AT screen 3' out from the back wall. My sub will be 4 of Gorrilla's 18" dual opposed design. I have one cabinet built smile.gif . I am liking what I have been reading about these speakers. I am currently running Ascend Acoustics 340's in my current room. Once the new house is done with the new room new speakers are a must. I was thinking Triple 12's or 8's for the front and slanted 8's for the surrounds. I live in West Michigan and would love to demo some of these speakers. Does anyone live in the area?
Aaron

I had the 340SE's long ago. Great little speaker actually smile.gif I used them several times in between different speakers in my theater, that is, until I got my T-12's smile.gif After that I realized the upper-echelon of speakers and sold the SE's immediately to a friend. The difference between what you have now and what the JTR's are capable of, isn't even fair. IF you are close enough to visit JTR personally, it will be even less fair (on more than one level, lol)
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Originally Posted by Diesel 48 View Post

Hey guys, just found out about JTR speakers yesterday. I am building a dedicated home theater room, 23'L x 15'W x 9'H. AT screen 3' out from the back wall. My sub will be 4 of Gorrilla's 18" dual opposed design. I have one cabinet built smile.gif . I am liking what I have been reading about these speakers. I am currently running Ascend Acoustics 340's in my current room. Once the new house is done with the new room new speakers are a must. I was thinking Triple 12's or 8's for the front and slanted 8's for the surrounds. I live in West Michigan and would love to demo some of these speakers. Does anyone live in the area?
Aaron

You could call Jeff at JTR and tell him where you live and he might be able to locate a JTR owner in your area. He did that for another forum member recently.
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Originally Posted by beastaudio View Post

I had the 340SE's long ago. Great little speaker actually smile.gif I used them several times in between different speakers in my theater, that is, until I got my T-12's smile.gif After that I realized the upper-echelon of speakers and sold the SE's immediately to a friend. The difference between what you have now and what the JTR's are capable of, isn't even fair. IF you are close enough to visit JTR personally, it will be even less fair (on more than one level, lol)

My 340SE"s really are not a bad speaker. Especially for the price. They sounded even better when I installed my 8801 a month ago. Sound stage is really good. Just want something more for my dedicated room.
post #6978 of 8265
OK guys, total newb question here about my system and hooking up multiple amps to my Onkyo PRSC886. Figured you guys would be quick to answer. Anyway, I am moving more in the direction of getting 4 more CHT 18.1 subs and another Crest CC 4000 amp. My question is how do I hook up a second Crest amo when my Onyko has 1 XLR out for the sub (pretty sure it has rya out too). Is there an XLR splitter I need? So many of you are using lots of subs and amps so I know this can be done. Also just beginning to see the PITA it will be to run the sub speaker wire and then wire the subs together to get a 4ohm load. I hate sucking at this technical stuff and having no DIY skills!!!
post #6979 of 8265
Yes, you can get an XLR Y cable. Just Google it. Or if you want something faster I'm sure radio Shack or best buy would have a RCA Y cable is stock. You might be able to pick up the XLR at Guitar Center or a music store.
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+1 to Stitch. Just get a Y xlr cable from Ebay or where ever and you're done.
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Originally Posted by Gorilla83 View Post

Man, it would probably be March before I had time to make another day trip, haha. If I had the time or need, I probably would have bought them myself by now.

Glad to hear you got your system back up to spec. cool.gif

I am the guy who bought his Quintuple LCRs (they are upgraded with 2011 compression drivers). They sound amazing and are very HEAVY smile.gif

If I knew you guys were interested in his T8s I would have gladly picked them up for you in the same trip. But I can't go there again anytime soon.

Try persuading him to deliver them to my home for a little bit more than his asking price? My zip code is 08852.

I could hold them in my garage and bring them with me in March, or you could pick them up sooner and also listen to Quintuples and a S2.
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Originally Posted by logicators View Post

I am the guy who bought his Quintuple LCRs (they are upgraded with 2011 compression drivers). They sound amazing and are very HEAVY smile.gif

If I knew you guys were interested in his T8s I would have gladly picked them up for you in the same trip. But I can't go there again anytime soon.

Try persuading him to deliver them to my home for a little bit more than his asking price? My zip code is 08852.

I could hold them in my garage and bring them with me in March, or you could pick them up sooner and also listen to Quintuples and a S2.

glad you liked them! i never heard back from you, but i would assume anyone with jtr speakers would have nothing but praise for them regardless. fyi its upgraded compression drivers and completely new crossovers from jeff. So its practically 2011 models, not sure if there were any 2012 changes to the speaker, and now quintuples are special order only.
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Originally Posted by ufokillerz View Post

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Originally Posted by logicators View Post

I am the guy who bought his Quintuple LCRs (they are upgraded with 2011 compression drivers). They sound amazing and are very HEAVY smile.gif

If I knew you guys were interested in his T8s I would have gladly picked them up for you in the same trip. But I can't go there again anytime soon.

Try persuading him to deliver them to my home for a little bit more than his asking price? My zip code is 08852.

I could hold them in my garage and bring them with me in March, or you could pick them up sooner and also listen to Quintuples and a S2.

glad you liked them! i never heard back from you, but i would assume anyone with jtr speakers would have nothing but praise for them regardless. fyi its upgraded compression drivers and completely new crossovers from jeff. So its practically 2011 models, not sure if there were any 2012 changes to the speaker, and now quintuples are special order only.

I was too busy listening to them smile.gif

They are excellent speakers but my Deftech BP2000TLs are no slouch either. Quintuples seem to excel in the "clarity" department and reproduce music like no other speaker I have ever heard, but 2000TLs create a huge soundstage and fill the room which is amazing for movies.

I guess I need bipolar Quintuples or bipolar Noesis smile.gif

I have listed 2000TLs for sale but I am having a hard time letting them go. If I had space I would have kept them as surrounds.
Edited by logicators - 1/23/13 at 7:38pm
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So I just put together a center channel stand today that I built from a 2x6 and a piece of plywood cut to the dimensions of the T12's.







Not 100% sure how I'm going to finish it yet. I may possibly order some duratex and smooth it out and finish it with it, and then use the rest for some side speaker stands. I'm also going to put some door stoppers under the T12 to angle it up once I'm finished with the finish of it.

Pretty simple to build and cheap!
post #6985 of 8265
Why not using black carpet instead? Cheap'n easy to mount with either glue or staples, though...
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Originally Posted by Avliner View Post

Why not using black carpet instead? Cheap'n easy to mount with either glue or staples, though...

I was thinking that as well. I'm not set yet on what I want to do. I was thinking speaker grill cloth as well.

The one thing I'm not sure how to do though is attach the material around all 5 faces of the stand without it looking like crap at edges. Anyone have a guide on how to attach cloth/carpet like that and to make it look like there are no "edges/ends" to the cloth?
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Originally Posted by purbeast View Post

I was thinking that as well. I'm not set yet on what I want to do. I was thinking speaker grill cloth as well.

The one thing I'm not sure how to do though is attach the material around all 5 faces of the stand without it looking like crap at edges. Anyone have a guide on how to attach cloth/carpet like that and to make it look like there are no "edges/ends" to the cloth?

Speaker cloth will show the color of the wood behind it if not painted black, FYI.

If you're going to wrap in something, you would want the edges/seams to be directed in an area you would not normally see - in this case it would be the bottom of the enclosure. Duratex is a pretty easy option too and it would match the finish of the T12s. Just do some sanding of the boards and edges, fill in gaps as needed, and then go to town.
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Originally Posted by Gorilla83 View Post

Speaker cloth will show the color of the wood behind it if not painted black, FYI.

If you're going to wrap in something, you would want the edges/seams to be directed in an area you would not normally see - in this case it would be the bottom of the enclosure. Duratex is a pretty easy option too and it would match the finish of the T12s. Just do some sanding of the boards and edges, fill in gaps as needed, and then go to town.

Yeah I am not sure yet what I'm going to do. Part of me wants to go the Duratex route, and if I make my other 2 speaker stands I can use it on that.

But at the same time, I do like the black carpet look as well.

Anyone have any specific types of carpet they like? The reviews from the jet black one at parts express is pretty mediocore.

EDIT:

Was just looking and they have the trial Duratex thing for $20 shipped. I may snag that and see how it goes. Says it's enough for a couple 18x12x12 boxes, so it should be enough for my stand. The full gallon is nearly $70 after shipping. This stand is 40x14x6 (and no bottom) so one of those should be enough for at least this stand. Decisions decisions decisions...
Edited by purbeast - 1/24/13 at 6:59am
post #6989 of 8265
i've gotten six 4CF boxes out of a gallon of duratex and still have some left!!! I'd suggest adding some water to thin it out a bit it, it makes the finish smoother and look nicer than just straight duratex. I've used it for the last 4 or 5 years. The spray stuff looks the best but is not as durable since it's much thinner. Just use a smooth foam roller and it will look just like the JTR speakers do.
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Originally Posted by N8DOGG View Post

i've gotten six 4CF boxes out of a gallon of duratex and still have some left!!! I'd suggest adding some water to thin it out a bit it, it makes the finish smoother and look nicer than just straight duratex. I've used it for the last 4 or 5 years. The spray stuff looks the best but is not as durable since it's much thinner. Just use a smooth foam roller and it will look just like the JTR speakers do.

Yeah I went by 2 fabric stores today (Joann and G Street) and neither had carpet type speaker cover, so I think I may order a gallon of Duratex, use that for my center stand, and then if I can think of a way to build a L/R stand, use it for that. If I can't think of a way to build a L/R stand, I will just get the trial Duratex and use that for my center.

Anyone have any suggestions how to build a 16 - 18 inch high speaker stand for T12's? I have 0 woodworking skills so it would have to be cuts from the people at HD. The center one I built was just a 10' 2x6 that they cut into the lengths I needed, and a 1/2" thick piece of plywood cut to the size I needed. I just put it all together.

But they don't make 2x16's lol. I was thinking about using 2 2x10's though, and stacking them, but I don't know how to connect 2 pieces of that stacked.

Any suggestions?
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