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post #7111 of 8249
2/1/13 at 4:38pm
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Originally Posted by Frohlich View Post

Well, my second S2 arrived this morning and my wall of sound is complete...for now..that is my story and I am sticking to it smile.gif





WOW, this set up must blow your cap backwards Frohlich! I'd be worried about my room falling apart with a set up like that!
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post #7112 of 8249
2/1/13 at 4:41pm
Haha wow Frohlich that system looks REALLY damn aggressive and badass!
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post #7113 of 8249
2/1/13 at 5:41pm
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Originally Posted by Frohlich View Post

Well, my second S2 arrived this morning and my wall of sound is complete...for now..that is my story and I am sticking to it smile.gif





Now for the female's point of view....Looks so much better with the speaker grill covers on, and nice vacuum job on the carpet, looks professionally done. wink.gif Enjoy!
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post #7114 of 8249
2/1/13 at 6:59pm
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Originally Posted by Kathy View Post

Now for the female's point of view....Looks so much better with the speaker grill covers on, and nice vacuum job on the carpet, looks professionally done. wink.gif Enjoy!

I usually do keep them on. Just take the off for macho effect...you know how us guys are smile.gif

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Originally Posted by COACH2369 View Post

Always leave the door open for more.... That is the way I roll.

I hear ya. I do have a knack for impulse purchases. Though as we talked about earlier, golf season is coming and usually my HT addiction subsides and doesn't come back until golf season ends.

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Originally Posted by fight4yu View Post

Wonderful setup!! Just the look of it is amazing!!
The center is a T8, BTW?

Yes that is triple 8 as my center. Looks small in the midst of the other speakers but it is not small at all...75lbs I think.

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Originally Posted by SeaNile View Post

Our systems really are set up alike. I'm really happy with everything so far. I'm sure you are as well.

YEah, I noticed that when you posted previous pictures. Guess we have good taste biggrin.gif
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post #7115 of 8249
2/1/13 at 9:25pm
I'm a grills off kind guy wink.gif Stealth is for suckers, I want people to go "WTF is that???" hehehe
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post #7116 of 8249
2/1/13 at 9:34pm
My CHT SS 18.2's don't have a grill option. I'd like to have matching grills for everything.
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post #7117 of 8249
2/1/13 at 10:07pm
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Originally Posted by N8DOGG View Post

I'm a grills off kind guy wink.gif Stealth is for suckers, I want people to go "WTF is that???" hehehe
At my house the WTF? comes during the the sound promo as the movie is starting. Since they can't see the JTR's they are really surprised by what comes out of the screen.
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post #7118 of 8249
2/2/13 at 2:35pm
Got my speaker stands all finished up. Here are some pics.





These are 2 door stoppers that I got from HD today that are pretty heavy duty. They had a shiny silver around the edge of em and since I have a bunch of Duratex left over, I put 2 textured coats on them. I put them under the center channel speaker before I painted them and you could see the silver bright so I just painted them.


And here is the finished product after they are all in place and hooked up.







Still need to run Audyssey though, which I'll be doing tonight at some point.
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post #7119 of 8249
2/2/13 at 2:52pm
Those stands turned out fantastic Drew! Especially the center. Really professional and quite an improvement over my version. I think you just inspired me to upgrade mine.
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post #7120 of 8249
2/2/13 at 4:00pm
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Originally Posted by purbeast View Post

Got my speaker stands all finished up. Here are some pics.





These are 2 door stoppers that I got from HD today that are pretty heavy duty. They had a shiny silver around the edge of em and since I have a bunch of Duratex left over, I put 2 textured coats on them. I put them under the center channel speaker before I painted them and you could see the silver bright so I just painted them.


And here is the finished product after they are all in place and hooked up.







Still need to run Audyssey though, which I'll be doing tonight at some point.

Those look good, nice job!

I was thinking of making some stands a while back and thought it would be nice to build them like you did but to make them 1.5" wider and deeper and put a piece of 3/4" quarter round around the top so that the stands were a little bigger and give them a slightly wider stance. It would also function as an inset for the speakers themselves and hold them in position in case things get too raucous ... tongue.gifbiggrin.gif
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post #7121 of 8249
2/2/13 at 4:34pm
Thanks guys. You know RMK I was actually thinking about making them 1" wider on each side initially, but then said screw that! I like the flush look for sure. And those speakers are so heavy they aren't going ANYWHERE.

I ran Audyssey and wow, it sounds incredible now. I can tell an immediate difference. It's mainly with how much LOUDER it sounds now that the tweeters are ear level or directed at ear level for the center. I had to turn things down a good 5-7db less than I was listening to previously. It sounds so crystal clear though!

Question about speaker placement for you guys. Right now, all the speakers are pretty much aimed directly at the main listening position. I tested out sitting in the outter seats in my setup, and it definitely does not sound as good in those seats, primarily because the speakers aren't really aimed there at all. Would it be better to aim them a little "straighter" so they are aiming more towards the outer seats? But if I do that, will I lose that awesome sound I'm hearing right now at the main position?

I guess I could always just play around with it and run Audyssey a few different times lol.
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post #7122 of 8249
2/2/13 at 6:35pm
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Originally Posted by purbeast View Post

Thanks guys. You know RMK I was actually thinking about making them 1" wider on each side initially, but then said screw that! I like the flush look for sure. And those speakers are so heavy they aren't going ANYWHERE.

I ran Audyssey and wow, it sounds incredible now. I can tell an immediate difference. It's mainly with how much LOUDER it sounds now that the tweeters are ear level or directed at ear level for the center. I had to turn things down a good 5-7db less than I was listening to previously. It sounds so crystal clear though!

Question about speaker placement for you guys. Right now, all the speakers are pretty much aimed directly at the main listening position. I tested out sitting in the outter seats in my setup, and it definitely does not sound as good in those seats, primarily because the speakers aren't really aimed there at all. Would it be better to aim them a little "straighter" so they are aiming more towards the outer seats? But if I do that, will I lose that awesome sound I'm hearing right now at the main position?

I guess I could always just play around with it and run Audyssey a few different times lol.

Yup, that's the way to do it. I had my T12's aimed just outside of my center love seat chairs and the sound in all 4 front row seats was/is excellent. Side reflections had a negative effect on the outside seats and that is why I treated my side walls but my ceiling is also treated. It is not an exact science...smile.gif
Edited by RMK! - 2/2/13 at 7:59pm
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post #7123 of 8249
2/2/13 at 6:39pm
Cool I will give it a go tomorrow at some point, possibly tonight, so that the sound isn't quite so focused in the central area.
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post #7124 of 8249
2/2/13 at 6:42pm
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Originally Posted by purbeast View Post

Got my speaker stands all finished up. Here are some pics.





These are 2 door stoppers that I got from HD today that are pretty heavy duty. They had a shiny silver around the edge of em and since I have a bunch of Duratex left over, I put 2 textured coats on them. I put them under the center channel speaker before I painted them and you could see the silver bright so I just painted them.


And here is the finished product after they are all in place and hooked up.







Still need to run Audyssey though, which I'll be doing tonight at some point.
That really worked out well. Happy listening.
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post #7125 of 8249
2/3/13 at 4:46am
Purbeast, great looking set-up and fantastic job with the stands. Well done!!!
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post #7126 of 8249
2/3/13 at 5:29am
Stands look great purbeast! smile.gif

Now that you've built the tool collection, ready to construct something else now? biggrin.gif
Edited by Gorilla83 - 2/3/13 at 6:11am
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post #7127 of 8249
2/3/13 at 6:02am
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Originally Posted by purbeast View Post

Cool I will give it a go tomorrow at some point, possibly tonight, so that the sound isn't quite so focused in the central area.

I have the stands that I ordered from Jeff directly and I can say you did do a great job, they look the same. For speaker positioning you can also try out greater toe in so that each speaker is facing the opposite side outer seats.
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post #7128 of 8249
2/3/13 at 8:03am
I did a lot of playing around with toe-in, I always have with any pair of speakers I've ever owned. For the first time I have settled on toeing in further that just pointing the speakers right at me. I'm pointing the Noesis so that each one is aimed a little over a foot to the left or right of me, so the right speaker would be hitting my head directly if I moved my head a little over a foot to the left.

The biggest benefit is a wider sweet spot. When I move my head back and forth the vocals are still anchored in the middle for 2 channel music. When I had the speakers aimed right at me if I moved my head much it affected the sweet spot much more.
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post #7129 of 8249
2/3/13 at 8:23am
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Originally Posted by carp View Post

I did a lot of playing around with toe-in, I always have with any pair of speakers I've ever owned. For the first time I have settled on toeing in further that just pointing the speakers right at me. I'm pointing the Noesis so that each one is aimed a little over a foot to the left or right of me, so the right speaker would be hitting my head directly if I moved my head a little over a foot to the left.

The biggest benefit is a wider sweet spot. When I move my head back and forth the vocals are still anchored in the middle for 2 channel music. When I had the speakers aimed right at me if I moved my head much it affected the sweet spot much more.

I think this might be OK for your setup but you have Noesis. I have found with T12's that slight toe-in is best. Even with Noesis, having the mains behind an AT screen and using increased toe-in may have a negative effect. For overall HT sound with a wide (ish) front row, I prefer less toe-in.
Horses for courses I guess.smile.gif
Edited by RMK! - 2/3/13 at 8:36am
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post #7130 of 8249
2/3/13 at 9:05am
I would agree with RMK!. The toeing in works great for 2 channel but with multichannel systems they need to be in an arc(best possible approach) going across the stage. I know most can't do this but with movies you have many speakers and many seats to cover. I have turned into a measurements freak so I just make sure everything is measuring at every seat the way I want it and that usually sounds best to me. I basically setup speakers, listened, and found out what I liked. I then measured to see why I liked then and just make sure everything I listen to has that same response to begin with. Of course I tried different responses but I have settled on a certiam one and stick to it. Turns out I am like the majority of people, house curve on the low end and slightly rolled off at the top. -6 dBs at 20khz or so.

BTW guys, all your setups look great!
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post #7131 of 8249
2/3/13 at 9:46am
I also don't toe-in a ton. Mine would be about pointed at the seat next to me. In my case, it's what sounds best.
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post #7132 of 8249
2/3/13 at 11:11am
So, who else is hosting a superbowl bash? I've already "called" in sick tomorrow. Good times await. smile.gif
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post #7133 of 8249
2/3/13 at 11:43am
I'm hosting -- wife is furiously dusting everything - i'm like just relax - people don't care they are coming for the projector and audio experience, family and food. A little dust isn't going to turn them away. cool.gif


The side affect is of course that the house is as clean as it's been in a LONG time!
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post #7134 of 8249
2/3/13 at 11:49am
I feel a little bit bad but we bailed on going to a party. It was in the works for about 2+ weeks but just couldn't go...They have the self proclaimed "worlds smallest and oldest TV" so from the get go I didn't want to go. We usually host every party and go overboard but just needed a break from hosting this one. Not to mention we are significantly out numbered in the kid dept. If we would have hosted today it would have been 8 adults and 14 kids with the oldest being 13 and youngest being 3. Those numbers do not add up to a pleasurable viewing experience. I feel like a dick but oh well....

Seriously with an 80" in the family room and 135" in the HT why would i want to go elsewhere???
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post #7135 of 8249
2/3/13 at 12:20pm
We are hosting our first SB party in the new house. The T12's will make their debut tonight, even though they haven't been calibrated yet.
Edited by COACH2369 - 2/4/13 at 2:38am
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post #7136 of 8249
2/3/13 at 12:38pm
Hah yea we're having people over for the superbowl as well. Been cleaning all morning but got hooked on the caps/penguins game in my basement, then flipped through channels and got stuck watching Iron Man for a bit on FX.

But basement is spotless right now!
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post #7137 of 8249
2/3/13 at 8:54pm
I feel a little let down. I've got all this expensive gear and the sound quality of the superbowl - including the halftime show tonight was pathetic. Last year's black eyed peas seemed to be mic'ced way better. This was anemic.

game was at least good!
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post #7138 of 8249
2/3/13 at 8:57pm
yeah. it was pretty weak. the game was really good though so there's that.
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post #7139 of 8249
2/4/13 at 6:08am
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Originally Posted by coolgeek View Post

Ok, I have gone about reading more about amps... Apparently, the ICE-Power designs may not be the best in sound quality as they sacrifice sound quality for efficiencies as opposed to class A/B... but A/B are not as efficient and may run hot and are heavier..

Anyways, just for comparison's sake, the emotiva sounds like a great competitor and may actually sound better:

http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/reference-series/products/xpr5

It'll drive clean 600 watts into 5 channels as opposed to the same priced D-Sonic that gives only 250 watts into 3 channels.

with about the same price tag of $1600... although the emotiva is a bit more heavier...

This would be great for my 5.1 JTR setup...

I can use my Onkyo 3010/3009 (note sure which to get yet) as my pre/pro, and then use the Emotiva to drive my LCR (noesis), and surrounds (S8). SInce cash is getting out of hand, I might add 4 SHO-10s for front heights and center surrounds to be driven by my onkyo...

Emotiva is crap eek.gif
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post #7140 of 8249
2/4/13 at 6:53am
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Originally Posted by Archaea View Post

I feel a little let down. I've got all this expensive gear and the sound quality of the superbowl - including the halftime show tonight was pathetic. Last year's black eyed peas seemed to be mic'ced way better. This was anemic.

game was at least good!

CBS has always had crappy sound. The Sunday night NBC game always looks and sounds much better. Way better use of surrounds on NBC and better bass too.
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