Originally Posted by Archaea
I think cowboys might have been more impressed with the 228ht than the caps? That's just backwards to me!
Originally Posted by carp
Does Cowboys have a suspended wood floor and a sub? That could be why.
Or, are you saying he liked both but liked the 228's better?
First of all, let me say thanks to Archeae for spending all of his evening time demoing/talking about subs/speakers/measuring equipment, etc... I was very impressed with his whole system. I came mainly for the Caps demo but since he got his new 228's, that was a big plus. Like Carp said, I was more surprised/impressed with the 228's than the Caps. I guest knowing the Caps are the beast of subs, I expected so walking in his room. The 228 on the other hand, I have not heard or even read about them and it caught me by surprise how well it did for both movie and music. They throw a big sound stage with excellent image and not bright at all (just right). I was just expecting great dynamic from them being 98dbs speakers but they are more than just dynamic. His front soundstage was very full with both music and movie. They sound like his whole front wall was producing music with vocal being pin point at the center and we were listening to some musics with just 2 channel stereo. Of course the duals Caps complimented the 228's well for the low notes. Up to last night, I have only heard how well the Caps perform from all the GTGs. Now I know why- they are truly a beast of subs. I had Archeae running one Cap to compare with dual. Let me put it this way, I have not heard dual subs set up before but only heard about folks here always recommend dual or even more, I am now starting to save money for a second Rythmik FV15HP. I was able to localize the bass with one sub and not with dual. His whole room was just filling with deep loud bass as they seem to come from everywhere in his room. We were listening at reference level with 6dbs hot on subs (I believe) and his left side wall were shaking- not just shaking, it actually moved when I had my hand on that wall- feel like a quarter of an inch excursion from his wall. I did hear a booming sound from the Caps during one of the scene (don't remember which one as we demoed lots of heavy bass scenes). Archeae heard it too and we were trying to see if the they came from the driver and it didn't seem to be. Not sure what it was but definitely some boomy bad sound.
The 228's are not quite sexy as compared to some of other high end brands within the same price range like B&W, Vienna Acoustic, or JM Lab but performance wise, the 228's sound better especially with movie playing at reference level. If it can pass the WAF for $1k each, the 228's all the way.
Carp, be on the look out on my PM as I am heading your way the week of 5/20 (if you are willing to show of course) to audition your bad *ss system with eight 18"s and the 212's.