Official JTR speaker thread - Page 256

Those in-wall mounted T8's look great Frohlich (in that they are invisible )


I used wood french cleats on my old T8's and use the keyhole mounts Jeff pre-installed for the S8's and the new T8-LP's. For the wood french cleat I used fairly large (#12) brass wood screws and chose a length that would not penetrate all the way through the speaker wall. This is a shear force situation so I wasn't worried about screws pulling out of the 13 ply baltic birch that Jeff uses for the cabinets.

Good idea to keep the wife happy Jedi ...

Yes, your surrounds look awesome. It turns out that I can only do that on one side. I have a built in bookshelf with nothing behind it that I can cut the back out of and put the T8 on a shelf angled down at 45 degrees 3" from the ceiling.

The rest will have to be in the room somehow.

I just asked Jeff to put keyhole mounts in the T8 that he is making to match my others. Hopefully it is not too late to add them, then I can add a bracket to get them to 45 degrees without cutting into the cabinets or worrying about the screws pulling out of the wood.

I have a very large living room and mounting my surrounds on the wall is not an option for me. So my question is can the slanted 8s be mounted on the ceiling and still sound good?

As the old magic 8-ball would say "Outlook good" "Signs point to yes".
Seriously though, the slanted 8 are great speakers so there should be no reason why they wouldn't work for you.

Thanks jbrown15

My height speakers are Slanted 8's and they are mounted on the ceiling. As best I can tell they do sound good (not a lot of content coming from height speakers ). Having used one as the center channel recently I can say that they are a remarkable speaker for their size.

Thanks RMK!

My slant 8's aren't mounted on the ceiling but they are butted up against it. I think they sound great mounted high and angled down. The sound is different than a standard home theater but I think it sounds more like a commercial movie theater with the sound coming from that high of an angle. I have plenty of room to mount them where I want but I have no intention of lowering them.

Room and surrounds looks great.

Yeah, that is a pretty awesome room.

Heya Frolich... what's the dimension of your room? Width/length?

I am rounding a tad but it is 19 feet from projector screen to behind the HT chairs and 14 feet wide. THere are an additional 9 feet from the back of the chairs (bar area) to the wall on the other side of the bar were the steps come down into the basement.

I love you setup Frohlich, with that much room did you ever think about going with an AT screen when you were building your room?

I did not until after I completed the room This was my first projector and didn't even think through that option when I had my contractor in to finish the basement. I am very happy with my 110 inch screen but like anything else...bigger is better It might a future upgrade but I would have to think very carefully how to lay everything out and frame the screen out. Part of the fun of this addiction...there is always more things to do/buy/change/upgrade

I would actually say that over 60% of my basement is unused right now (you might be able to see it in some of the pictures) and am trying to think of what to do with that space. Pool table...darts...foosball..etc.. We have a full bath and huge walkin cedar closet but not much else on that half of the basement. The kids mainly use it to get a running start into a couple of huge bean bags we bought and have sleepovers with their friends. Guess that will have to do for now.
Edited by Frohlich - 3/14/13 at 11:31am

Yeah I'm in the same boat as you. I went with just a stand screen and the speakers and subs out in the open. But now with just ordering my 228hts I'm going to retro fit my current screen with XD material from SeymourAV and build a stage with a false wall. Should be a fun little project, and I'm looking forward to having the sound come threw the screen instead of from under the screen.

I'm just going to retro fit the 16:9 screen I have right now but maybe next year upgrade to a constant height screen and get an anamorphic lens to use with my RS45 projector. I'd love to have a 10' wide screen!

Not only is having them on the ceiling not a bad thing, but you will actually get a little boost in the low-end by having them corner loaded as RMK has pointed out previously!!!

Brady, you are running two pairs of side surrounds or are those closest to the camera wides angled the same as the side surrounds. If they actually ARE wides, how do you like the sound from them? If I ever did wides, with my very narrow room, I would more than likely have to do them this way is why I ask

My wife completely balked at the T8's out in the open once I took one from behind the screen to show her. She even refused Frolich's solution (which I still think is awesome by the way) so I will have to take it a step further. Unfortunately it will involve a contractor and probably another $500-$1000.

There is a storage area behind the bookshelves, I will put the speakers in there and cut a hole in the back of the bookshelves and cover it with white grill cloth.



On the other side I will have to cut through the wall and make pockets for them like Frolich's. I found some GOM that should pretty closely match the green of the walls to cover them. I will have to relocate the light switch for the closet and possibly modify the doorway.



The side surrounds will be reasonably placed but the rear surrounds will be on the side walls in the back of the room. This should not matter that much from the main listening position, but will mess with my OCD.

The upside, is that since no speakers will be visible in the room, the surprise for guests when the sound trailer starts up at the beginning of a movie will be even greater.

Then my wife can start decorating the room, which should involve mostly fake plants.

Oh man, I just ordered my 228HT's from Jeff, I'll be counting the days till I move the old JBL E80's out and the 228HTs in!!!

That is a very good question and I'm anxious to hear what Brady is doing with those. I'm guessing dual side surrounds as they are (based upon the Audyssey and Dolby recommended placement) too wide for heights and too high for wides ...
Edited by RMK! - 3/15/13 at 8:20am

That is what I thought as well. Side surrounds for each row. That must be difficult to level match and calibrate.

Good decision! Now comes the hard part.

Just ordered 228HT LCR, 8-lp sides, slant rears for 7.1 setup. Replacing B&W fronts, mix of other brand sides and rears. It was either get more B&W for sides and rears, or go JTR, this is 100% home theater use. Now I need to sell my B&W 804's & HTM4 center if anyone knows someone with interest!

Re-doing room, replacing fixed screen with false wall AT screen, columns along room sides to hide the 8's, etc...thanks to all here that gave me info, looking forward to the change!

That will be an awesome sound system Mark, congrats . Sorry if I missed it but what sub(s) are you using?

No kidding. I sold and shipped my t8's a couple of weeks ago and have been using the TV's speakers ever since. Even worse, my basement STILL won't be finished when the 228's arrive, so it will be an even longer wait. I'm going through some serious JTR withdrawal right now.

You decided what you are going to end up doing with your Slanted 8's?

I also placed my 228HT LCR order last week. Will need about a month
Well, next month, I will have an all JTR system. 228 LCR, Slanted-8 for 4 Surround, and OS as subwoofer.
can't wait!!

JL Audio Fathom 112, going to keep it for now.

I wish I had the room to make either S8's or Slanted 8's to work for my rear surrounds. But I think I'll have to stay with my Axiom QS8s

Do you already have an OS?

Nice sub, I had quad Fathoms at one point during my "If I throw a lot of money at it, it's bound to be good" phase. That isn't necessarily a slam on the Fathom (I liked the subs) but it instead relates to a price/performance epiphany that I had a few years back...