New Sony ES Player BDP-S1000ES - Page 35

Try explicitly turning off deep color. Does that help?

Hi Folks:
I bought "A Walk in the Clouds" yesterday and my S1000ES won't play the Blu Ray disk. I get a cryptic messages saying "Disk Unrecognizable." Has anyone who bought this movie experienced this problem? Interestingly, my LG BH200 dual format player plays the movie... go figure!

Lightly spray the DVD with Windex. Wipe dry with soft cloth or tissue from the Center to the outside edge! Do not go in circles! Make sure no particles left on the surface. Now retry. Sometimes a very thin film of oil gets on the disk making it unreadable. Why one player will and another won't, one player could have a stronger laser than the other.
I assume you have the latest FW upgrade?

p5browne:
Thanks for responding. Yes, both my high definition players have the latest FW upgrade. I will clean the Blu Ray disc and see if the problem goes away.

Did the cleaning help?

A new firmware update has been released for this player by Sony. However, we do not know if it contains the cinavia rootkit in it yet, so I suggest you think carefully before installing it. My player is functioning perfectly, and I do not feel compelled to have another layer of copy prevention software operating in the player.

Sony has a major firmware update for many of his BD players. Normally the latest firmware version is the best and can not be reversed once updated. I had playback problems with a SD dvd and the problem is solved with this new firmware version. If you buy an original BD you do not have to worry about the copy protections on the disc. The Cinavia Encryption watermark is in the audio stream of the original BD and only people who make back-ups of a BD could experience problems as mentioned above.

Update 011; I'm pretty sure mine is 008, but it's not broke, so why would I fix it? And who on Earth gives a rip about BD-Live?

http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/swu...mdl=BDPS1000ES

Filename : UPDATA_11X011.ZIP
Version : 011
Last Modified : 02/10/2011
Size : 48.09 MB

What does this do?

This utility upgrades the Blu-ray Disc player firmware to version 011, and provides the following benefits:

Improvements over firmware version 008:

* Improves BD-ROM playability.

Benefits provided by previous upgrades and included in version 011

* Improves compatibility to enhance interactivity with some BD-ROMs.
* Adds support for using an external USB hard drive for BD-Live functions.
Note: Sony recommends using the Western Digital My Passport Essential 320GB portable hard drive (model WDME3200) for BD-Live functions.
o Use of this hard drive with the Blu-ray Disc player is intended only for BD-Live functions.
o Sony cannot guarantee that other external USB hard drives will support the BD-Live functions.

BD-Live Notes

* BD-Live allows you to enjoy additional content and services while playing a BD-Live capable disc.
* For optimal performance, we recommend that you use a Broadband Internet connection to access BD-Live content and services.
* BD-Live content and services require an external USB storage device for local storage.

I agree with most folks that I could care less about BD-Live, however I would be careful about dismissing firmware releases just because of what a manufacturer says it adds. I image that this firmware release, like most all firmware releases, include bug fixes that may, or may not, be known to the public. There is just no way of telling what has been fixed that you don't know is broken; yet. Nothing unusual about this, manufacturers almost never ever say what specifically has been fixed in a product. Personally, I have never passed-up a firmware release and have never had an issue because of taking one.

My player works perfectly--there's no amount of salesmanship that can convince me to mess with it (and risk non-perfection or worse, bricking).

This board is full of stories about crappy mfr "updates", updates which changed (or worse, reduced) player functionality, and bad update attempts which resulted in bricked players. If I ever find a disc that won't play, I might then update (but only after confirming with someone ELSE that the update allowed that particular disc to play).

Just installed 011 firmware & it works great.

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The issues that i reported a few posts back about flickering with certain parts of the video image (particulary on FBI warning screen) are all gone with the new firmware update.

This still is a great player for those who absolutely want the best picture from blu-ray and dont care about low-fi streaming.

Great news for you and anyone with this problem!

Just curious; did you report this problem to Sony? If not, I wonder if someone else did, or if Sony found it internally.

No i never did contact sony. I suspect the problem was with the firmware being faulty, and 0 and 1 must have gotten crossed somewhere

I havent had a chance to test many discs, but put in Aliens BD disc which had the problem all throughout the movie. Inception only showed the problem at the menu screen and FBI warning screen, thats also now resolved.

FYI i have my player paired with a Sony 46 XBR8, and the picture is the closest i have seen to a pioneer kuro, being nearly identical.

I spoke to soon, the problem did not go away and seems very random now, occuring or not occuring on the same disc, so I assume its related to something else in the player.

You said you tried another cable, but yours sure sounds like a "connection" problem. Are you certain the HDMI cable is fully seated at the back of your TV?

I've mistakenly thought an HDMI was fully inserted when it was not. I also have a switcher which introduces very random glitching in the picture (so I pulled it-out of my setup). I wonder if you can also try to make a Component connection and see if the problems go away.

Came across one of these for next to nothing and curious if it is still considered near the top of the heap regarding IQ. I also have a Panasonic BD35, Samsung C6900, PS3 and blu equipped htpc but have not done any direct comparisons as of yet.

Thanks,
Jason

It does a fairly nice job of upscaling DVD's, though to be honest my Pioneer 320 does a significantly better job of upscaling DVD's vs. the 1000ES.

Ah, thanks for the info.

I was more interested in Blu playback utilizing the extra image features as I hardly ever watch dvd's any more. Guess I'll have to hook it up and do some A-B.

Jason

I'll share with you my experience. This past fall I decided to buy a back-up player for my Oppo 83 which occasionally would not play certain titles. I chanced upon an open-box 1000ES and the end result was that the Oppo is now the back-up for the Sony! I would also add that the Sony has played every disc I've thrown at it. In terms of the super-mapping / enhancement adjustments, I have used them moderately and discovered that they present to MY eyes a better blu-ray picture than the Oppo. In what sense? More ''pop'', more depth, deeper color. Its not night-and-day but its there and appreciated by me. I give a slight edge to the Oppo for standard DVD up-version. Again, as they say time and time again on this forum, ''YMMV'' (or something like that!)

I was wondering what your super-mapping / enhancement setting are ?

I have PS3, Pioneer 320 and the Sony S1000ES and Sony S570. In terms of Blu-ray playback PQ @1080p/24p, I doubt you will see any difference between players even if you look hard. I have returned the Oppo 83, because I could not justify the full MSRP for just Blu-ray playback as it is no better than the others. My favorite and primary player is the Pioneer 320 mainly because it has more tweaking feature and let's me save different settings for each of my two projectors. FIY, these players are used in my main HT room which consists of a Marantz VP15s1 and Panasoinc AE4000 paired with Da-lite HP 115" 2.35 and 106" HDTV screens.

It is. Both Blu-ray and DVD performance are outstanding, even astonishing at times.

The only quibbles I have with mine are the load time and the butt-ugly screen it displays until a disc retracts into the tray (says something about "BD-ROM data..").

This kind of comments from owners of S1000ES makes me wonder if I have my setup wrong or is it because don't have other top-tier players to compare it with ? What I have found out after trying out 9 blu-ray players is that PQ is the same among all top-tier players. What are your picture settings Laserfan?

I am still getting occasional distortion in the image, that is completely random, and is usual present on the main menu screens/FBI warnings.. I still dont know what its from.

But my settings are irrelevant to your (or anyone else's) BDP-S1000ES because we don't have the same displays (or screens), and even if we did have the same displays they're all somewhat different as the factory output is never the same.

Dunno what to tell you if as you say "all players look alike". No offense, but there IS also the question of whether one has a "trained eye" to various images moving-or-not. I'm not as good at this as some people I know (who are video professionals) i.e. they can see variations that I cannot, sometimes even when they point these out to me.

The original question I was responding to was "is this player near the top of the heap" and IMO it is indeed, regardless of how little some of us paid for it!

When I say picture settings, I mean in your video setting on the S1000ES as I was curious as to what features you enabled and to what value they are set on the Sony. As for the trained eye and video professionals comment, I don't have to tell you that many, including those who work at the studios who master the discs you and I see, use and consider the PS3 as a reference and a lot of folks here will tell you the Oppo has a better picture quality. It has been discussed elsewhere on this forum that there is NO difference in picture quality when you output 1080p/24p from a blu-ray disc whether you have PS3, Sony, Pioneer, Panasonc Oppo or any modern top tier player. What differentiate Blu-ray players nowadays is feature and speed. I don't take any offense by your comment, BTW. I still say , most if not all, top tier players, have identical PQ when outputting 1080p from a blu ray disc. SD DVD is another matter.

Thanks for the input everyone, for what I paid I may well have the record $ spent so it was a steal anyway but I guess I was wondering (more than anything) on which display to utilize it based upon IQ. Based upon the responses here I'll be trying it on my 120" front projection system vs the smaller hdtv's .

Thanks again, much appreciated!
Jason

I didn't mention bluray, since most of the bluray players are about the same as far as PQ on a BD.
I haven't played much with the settings though, so sorry I can't help there.

The 1000ES does play most every disc I've thrown at it, even scratched rentals.

So how much is a steal??? I picked up a new in the box for 99 at best buy.

I will second that! And my eyes can see a differance.