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post #211 of 1183
Got the wi-fi working. That's one nice feature. Also, can't explain it, but Mad Men Season 2 looks absolutely amazing on this machine. The colours really pop, and there's quite some depth to the picture I haven't seen before. Is it the new Sony, or just one great transfer? I dunno, but so far the S760 is a nice upgrade.
post #212 of 1183
So, I've been playing around the the HD Reality Enhancer on my S760 this weekend using various blu-ray titles and Digital Video Essentials(Blu-ray). I'd have to say that this feature is very impressive. The image is produces on my Panasonic projector is sharper than anything I've seen before, yet there doesn't appear to be any added noise or artifacts. Colour, too, seems to have more pop than my previous player produced. As far as the various noise reduction filters--there's 4 in total--they opperate just like any DNR filter out there. Yes, they reduce noise and film grain, but with a loss to sharpness--I tend to leave those off.

This player is producing a great picture far better than anything I've seen before. It's a real shame that it isn't selling better as lack of forum activity seems to indicate. Here in Canada we seem to have it good with the S760 selling at a decent price. To bad Sony USA got greedy by adding an ES sticker and charging $200 more for what is an awesome mid-level machine.
post #213 of 1183
HD RH of sony is for upconversion of SD DVD not blu ray ASAIK.
post #214 of 1183
Well, it works well with my blu-ray's. I can pause a scene and bring up the RH screen. Moving up the scale from 0 to 3 improves the sharpness and detail of the image without adding artifacts. It's a very obvious improvement on my 118" screen.
post #215 of 1183
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Originally Posted by SirJohnFalstaff View Post

So, I've been playing around the the HD Reality Enhancer on my S760 this weekend using various blu-ray titles and Digital Video Essentials(Blu-ray). I'd have to say that this feature is very impressive. The image is produces on my Panasonic projector is sharper than anything I've seen before, yet there doesn't appear to be any added noise or artifacts. Colour, too, seems to have more pop than my previous player produced. As far as the various noise reduction filters--there's 4 in total--they opperate just like any DNR filter out there. Yes, they reduce noise and film grain, but with a loss to sharpness--I tend to leave those off.

This player is producing a great picture far better than anything I've seen before. It's a real shame that it isn't selling better as lack of forum activity seems to indicate. Here in Canada we seem to have it good with the S760 selling at a decent price. To bad Sony USA got greedy by adding an ES sticker and charging $200 more for what is an awesome mid-level machine.

Hi there so the 760 is a 1000ES player I was looking at one today but did not buy it because I was think it is not a 1000ES player, I might buy one now thinks. and also does the 760 use Marvell chip in. Thanks
post #216 of 1183
The S760 is the model number for the S1000ES in Canada, Australia, and Europe. S1000ES is the US designation. Everything I can find seems to state that they use all the same chips and components.
post #217 of 1183
SirJohn:

sounds like you generally approve of the 760

How does it handle colour gradations? Like a light blue to a dark blue sky and such?
post #218 of 1183
Thus far quite well. I've been looking for gradiations, but haven't seen any. It's supposed to have some sort of feature that greatly reduces them. If somone has some titles they'd like me to look at, please let me know.
post #219 of 1183
Quote:
Originally Posted by SirJohnFalstaff View Post

The S760 is the model number for the S1000ES in Canada, Australia, and Europe. S1000ES is the US designation. Everything I can find seems to state that they use all the same chips and components.

Thanks am thinking of buying one for my region B stuff
post #220 of 1183
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Originally Posted by SirJohnFalstaff View Post

Thus far quite well. I've been looking for gradiations, but haven't seen any. It's supposed to have some sort of feature that greatly reduces them. If somone has some titles they'd like me to look at, please let me know.

Sir John, Now after playing around with the 760, how does this unit measure up compared to BD30. I am interested only in Blu ray AQ and PQ. Do you see a diffference. I am confused between Pioneer 320 and 760.
post #221 of 1183
Sound-wise, I can't hear any real difference between the BD30 and the S760, but then I'm bitstreaming to a Denon AVR-3808CI. Picture-wise, the Sony beats the Panasonic hands down. It's also is way more responsive. I'm really happy with my upgrade.
post #222 of 1183
New firmware update posted.

http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/swu...d=4950&os_id=7

Improves the sound quality of the 7.1 channel virtual headphone output.
Improves compatibility to enhance interactivity with some BD-ROMs.
post #223 of 1183
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Originally Posted by SirJohnFalstaff View Post

Sound-wise, I can't hear any real difference between the BD30 and the S760, but then I'm bitstreaming to a Denon AVR-3808CI. Picture-wise, the Sony beats the Panasonic hands down. It's also is way more responsive. I'm really happy with my upgrade.

If you are bitstreaming then you will not hear a difference because the converters are in the AVR
post #224 of 1183
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Originally Posted by hifi59 View Post

New firmware update posted.

http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/swu...d=4950&os_id=7

Improves the sound quality of the 7.1 channel virtual headphone output.
Improves compatibility to enhance interactivity with some BD-ROMs.

Yeah. The same firmware is up on the Canadian site for the S760--yet another sign that these are the same machine.

Once I connect to the internet, I imagine the player will update without the need to download and burn to a CD, right?
post #225 of 1183
Is the S1000ES a better blu-ray player than the Pioneer BDP-320?
post #226 of 1183
Im still puzzled if i should get a S760 or a Denon 2010. As i do bitstream the audio, i do not care for the BurrBrowns of the Denon. Projector used is a JVC HD350.

Main reason for getting the Sony is the reviews about PQ. But i do like the much better build quality of the Denon.

Here in Germany the Denon 2010 is 600,- EUROS and the Sony is just 449,- Euros.

So that makes 900USD for the Denon or 675USD for the Sony, including 19% VAT. I would rather get the Sony just to show Denon that i don't wanna be ripped of by greedy sales department.

Any thoughts or recommendations ?
post #227 of 1183
I too was seriously considering the Denon 2010CI, but after some serious thought I choose the Sony. It has several more features the Denon does not, and as for the build quality, yes the Denon is superior, but that doesn't mean it'll last longer. My wife also mentioned that this wasn't going to be my last blu-ray player. Profile 3.0 is just around the corner, and so I'll probably be upgrading again in a year or two. I'll happily pay more for a Denon player that is a full profile machine, but that's not now. But I must say I'm really loving the picture quality the S760 is giving me. This machine has changed my mind about Sony.
post #228 of 1183
Couldn't resist. Just ordered a S760 5 minutes ago.
post #229 of 1183
The firmware update via Wi-Fi went off without a hitch. Took about 10 minutes to complete--4 minutes for the download, 6 minutes for update. That's quite an improvement from having to burn the thing to CD before updating.
post #230 of 1183
Thanks to everyone in this thread I'm now seriously considering the S760 as my first (and hopefully last) Blu-ray player. The main contender is an LG390, and it is $100 CAD cheaper. I ruled out the Pioneer 320 because of its slow loading times and 2-3 second layer change delay. That is one issue thats a dealbreaker for me. I haven't heard anybody mention it in this thread, so I just want to know if anyone has noticed a delay (any more than a tenth of a second) while watching dual layer DVDs?

My other questions are about CD Audio. I want to use this as my primary CD player as well. I am not an audiophile but I do have a Marantz receiver and Grado headphones and I like to hear a lot of detail in my music. Is it better to use analog or digital out for 2ch audio? I am assuming that if I put in an audio CD that I won't need to turn on my television, and you can just use it like a regular CD player, is this correct? Lastly, I notice there is a headphone jack on the front panel of the 760/1000ES. Is there any point to using this instead of the headphone jack on my receiver?

Thanks again for everyone in this thread and the helpful info about these players. Cheers!
post #231 of 1183
Another question about the 760/1000ES that I haven't found in this thread:

Will it play SD DVDs at 24 fps?

Found one review which says it can (can't post URLs yet but it was on gadgetguy dot com dot au) but I haven't found anything else out there referring to this capability. I even downloaded the manual from sony.ca and it sounds like 1080/24p output is only available on BD-ROM. Not a dealbreaker by any means, but it would be a very nice option to have.
post #232 of 1183
1000ES should have higher quality components - especially capacitors, compared to S760.

it would be good if somebody could post some pics.... close-ups of chip part numbers / labels, power supply section, transport mechanism...

Boky
post #233 of 1183
Dont know which player i should buy. My options are the Sony 5000ES or the 1000ES which cost here in Germany half the price of the 5000ES. i have read the review above but dont understand. The 1000ES is the 5000ES lite but the 1000ES have the better picture quallity? My preferences are good analog Sound and picture Quality on a JVC HD350 Projector.

Which one is the better buy in the moment?
Thanx
post #234 of 1183
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Originally Posted by Gatterwatz View Post

Dont know which player i should buy. My options are the Sony 5000ES or the 1000ES which cost here in Germany half the price of the 5000ES. i have read the review above but dont understand. The 1000ES is the 5000ES lite but the 1000ES have the better picture quallity? My preferences are good analog Sound and picture Quality on a JVC HD350 Projector.

Which one is the better buy in the moment?
Thanx

I own a S5000ES and love it. AQ and PQ are fantastic in my opinion.
post #235 of 1183
Hello,

Does any one know how much better this player is compared to the 550. I am using the analog outs - does this player have better dacs or output stage?
And image wise is it better?

Thanks
post #236 of 1183
As far as I can see this is a bdp-s360/3* with an es sticker and a price tag to match.
I couldn't find anywhere any internal pics so I assume the internals (chips) are exactly the same (nec?).

My criteria:
I want a player that is as fast as possible and offers unprocessed video/audio via hdmi.

A quick look at the manual I see the "es" player in "addition" to the s360 has:
1) wifi n
2) dlna
3) better remote with eject button
4) usb on front
5) headphone
6) 7.1 analogue outputs
7) better case
8) super bit mapping
9) hd reality enhancer

Now since the chips are the same what benefit does the "es" player have as far as my criteria goes. All I see in the above list are a bunch of useless stuff.

Two items that even the "es" player doesn't have are:
1) direct video output mode (old sony players had this)
2) hd motion adaptive deinterlacing (I have a couple of 1080i videos/demos/concerts)

What am I missing? Video/audio formats are exactly the same. Is the speed by some magical way faster?
I want to order the "es" player but if I'm paying for a sticker just tell me so, so I can spend my money better elsewhere.

*bdp-s363 has the same remote as bdp-s360 but backlit (extra button), there are no other differences
post #237 of 1183
Quote:
Originally Posted by 720p View Post

As far as I can see this is a bdp-s360/3* with an es sticker and a price tag to match.
I couldn't find anywhere any internal pics so I assume the internals (chips) are exactly the same (nec?).

My criteria:
I want a player that is as fast as possible and offers unprocessed video/audio via hdmi.

A quick look at the manual I see the "es" player in "addition" to the s360 has:
1) wifi n
2) dlna
3) better remote with eject button
4) usb on front
5) headphone
6) 7.1 analogue outputs
7) better case
8) super bit mapping
9) hd reality enhancer

Now since the chips are the same what benefit does the "es" player have as far as my criteria goes. All I see in the above list are a bunch of useless stuff.

Two items that even the "es" player doesn't have are:
1) direct video output mode (old sony players had this)
2) hd motion adaptive deinterlacing (I have a couple of 1080i videos/demos/concerts)

What am I missing? Video/audio formats are exactly the same. Is the speed by some magical way faster?
I want to order the "es" player but if I'm paying for a sticker just tell me so, so I can spend my money better elsewhere.

*bdp-s363 has the same remote as bdp-s360 but backlit (extra button), there are no other differences

here's my take on the 1000es:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post17456588
post #238 of 1183
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

here's my take on the 1000es:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post17456588

winston too bad you didn't review the BDP-S360, as far as I can see it's exactly the same player for $150 instead of $700. I liked your review.
post #239 of 1183
I had no idea that this was being marketed as an ES-Series player in the USA, but it makes sense. I just finished reviewing the European BDP-S760 and was very pleased:

http://www.avforums.com/reviews/Sony...er-Review.html
post #240 of 1183
Can any S1000ES or 760 owner confirm if either model supports a "source direct" mode i.e. automatically selects player output res/freq to match the native source material on the DVD/Blu-ray disc ?

I can't see any reference in the manual that indicates it can (only Auto res relates to using display EDID) but some other posts in the "Synthetic tests thread" appear to suggest it can. If it can what is the specific setting to enable source direct mode ?

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