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post #61 of 1183
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Originally Posted by hdblu View Post

Please, Let people think for them selfs if they hear a difference with DIGITAL let them have there fun but please do not go around telling people you are not hearing a difference GET A LIFE

Now get back on topic

Sorry, Scott was right. I'm not trying to start an argument, but Sott was trying to educate. He was not saying that one can "hear a difference with DIGITAL," but he was saying you can't hear digital, and its true. All digital signals are converted to analog so you can hear the sound or some sound. No sense in getting mad.
post #62 of 1183
How good is the "HD Reality Enhancer" feature? Does it work well for all movies? I've seen it in action before and liked the effect, but is it a feature that gets old after viewing for awhile? It almost seems like a gimmick that seems really cool at first, but could get old.

I'd like to hear from any Sony owners who have, or still do use the HD Reality Enhancer feature.
post #63 of 1183
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Originally Posted by Robertoy View Post

http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english...05/157531/?P=1

Roberto

The Creas processor is essentially a Marvell Qdeo LSI. See ClearlyQdeo site where they discuss its incorporation in the S5000ES model
post #64 of 1183
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Originally Posted by gbaby View Post

Sorry, Scott was right. I'm not trying to start an argument, but Sott was trying to educate. He was not saying that one can "hear a difference with DIGITAL," but he was saying you can't hear digital, and its true. All digital signals are converted to analog so you can hear the sound or some sound. No sense in getting mad.

I understand now Sorry
post #65 of 1183
Sony Style has this player listed as "back ordered". Has any one gotten this player? If so post your impressions.
post #66 of 1183
Sonys website is now saying that this player is now in stock. Looking forward to a review soon as I am strongly considering this player and moving the s550 to the bedroom.
post #67 of 1183
Yes, I've narrowed it down to three options for replacing my venerable BDP-S1.

The afore mentioned BDP-S1000ES, the Pioneer Elite BDP-23FD or just go whole-hog and grab the BDP-CX7000ES 400-Disc Changer. I'm leaning against the BDP-S1000ES because I hate IR flashers ruining the clean look of the front faceplate, and the RS232 functionality on the BDP-23FD is appealing.
post #68 of 1183
I can't believe there are not any reviews about this player yet. Does any one actually have one?
post #69 of 1183
I can't believe there are not any owners yet. Maybe I should get this one off the ground and get a review done...
post #70 of 1183
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

I can't believe there are not any owners yet. Maybe I should get this one off the ground and get a review done...

Please do!
post #71 of 1183
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Originally Posted by mookie b View Post

Please do!

I'm on it...
post #72 of 1183
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

I'm on it...

Thank god for you man. I hate buying products in the dark.
post #73 of 1183
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Originally Posted by nc View Post

The Creas processor is essentially a Marvell Qdeo LSI. See ClearlyQdeo site where they discuss its incorporation in the S5000ES model

Or Sony replaces proprietary Sony CREAS by Marvell Qdeo 88DE2710?...(the same solution used in Pioneer Elite BDP-09FD...)
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com//S...hure_FINAL.pdf
http://www.clearlyqdeo.com/products-with-qdeo.aspx

Roberto
post #74 of 1183
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Originally Posted by Robertoy View Post

Or Sony replaces proprietary Sony CREAS by Marvell Qdeo 88DE2710?...(the same solution used in Pioneer Elite BDP-09FD...)
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com//S...hure_FINAL.pdf
http://www.clearlyqdeo.com/products-with-qdeo.aspx

Roberto

Is that not a good thing?
post #75 of 1183
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

Is that not a good thing?

Sony CREAS > Marvell Qdeo

It seems that was a good exchange...

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Originally Posted by Ultimate AV Mag View Post

Sony BDP-S5000ES Blu-ray Player

By Kris Deering • August, 2009

Sony also included some noise-reduction features and detail-enhancement modes. I used a variety of test material to see how effective these enhancements were. The noise-reduction filters did a fair job with tests, but they weren’t quite up to the level I’ve seen from the higher-end video-processing solutions from Silicon Optix or Marvell. The BDP-S5000ES features high-quality upconversion and deinterlacing for DVD playback, with little to no ringing. However, the detail-enhancement feature did add some slight ringing to the image. While I would recommend leaving it off for good sources, it did a decent job of sharpening up overly soft titles.



I was disappointed by the BDP-S5000ES’ video-processing performance with our standard tests. High-end models from Denon and Pioneer Elite incorporate state-of-the-art processing, and even low-priced designs from Panasonic and other manufacturers offer excellent performance and pass our HD video-processing tests. Hopefully, this is something that Sony will address with future ES models. The video performance here is comparable to standard Sony Blu-ray players that are available for less.

Conclusion
I’m a bit on the fence when it comes to Sony’s new flagship design. The build quality is impeccable, and the player does a superb job with DVD and Blu-ray playback at 1080p/24. With full interactivity and advanced audio covered, this is a player that will serve the consumer’s basic needs for a long time. And the step-up CD playback performance over analog is commendable. However, at this price point, I think consumers should expect more cutting-edge features like high-end HD video processing and wireless connectivity.

http://www.ultimateavmag.com/hddiscp...er/index1.html

Roberto
post #76 of 1183
Thread Starter 
Never seen a good review on Sony players from this site.probably because they don't advertise on his site.Pioneer,Denon lways get great reviews.Also I thought the 5000 es was using some sort of Marvel processing.
post #77 of 1183
The review posted above is for the 5000 model. This thread is supposed to be about the 1000.
post #78 of 1183
I think it is about time I post my review....
post #79 of 1183
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Originally Posted by benrub View Post

The review posted above is for the 5000 model. This thread is supposed to be about the 1000.

I think that was just to show the comparison chips that the S5000ES had verus the 09FD and now the 1000ES...
post #80 of 1183
I remember not to long ago reviewing the S5000ES. I was very impressed with the overall picture quality. It reminded my family of a PS3 with its GUI. And since we still use a PS3 as our utility player to this day, the 1000ES is very easy for everyone to operate. So what best describes the 1000ES? That's simple. A 5000ES Lite. Seems like I have been using the lite term a lot lately. The 1000ES is no exception. It weighs a ton less, but to be perfectly frank, that is the main difference. The 1000ES is even better in pic Q (mainly due to it having a Marvell chip like the 09FD) and loads very fast. Sure many will complain about its msrp (699.00) but wat does it do to justify it? Read on...

Features... Sony has really made an impact on me with its Super Bit Mapping and HD Reality Enhancer. I was a big fan of these features on the 5000ES but even more so now. Super Bit Mapping smooths out background shadow and color gradients and HD Reality Enhancer sharpens moving edges to create the finest video output available from Sony. And yes, that includes the 5000ES. I hate to admit it but I am getting an excellent image that is as good as the Denon DVD-A1 and Pioneer 09FD (my current champs). This little player (weighs just 6.6 pounds) has to be the lightest player I ever touched with this good an image!

Other features...Here is another good one. Wi-Fi which connects to the net very easily. Speaking of the net, It also includes 4GB external memory for BD-Live. I did not have any trouble with any of the Disney titles I played with. You can also do Photo Streaming to. I have to also report that the 1000ES has a "quick start" mode which allows you to put a disc in very quickly. I am a huge fan of being able to put a disc in within seconds!

Real-Time viewing... I started with Supernatural Season 4. Dean's 67 Impala looked so clear you could almost see your own reflection in it! I then went to Roadhouse which looked the best I have seen to date. I could have sworn there was smoke (scene when Dalton is first telling like it is) coming out of the screen. It looked that good. On to the Skynet T2 movie. Yes, it played! And it looked terrific. I spent a lot of time with Gladiator and Braveheart. Both titles made me very happy I upgraded from my SD dvds. Notice the details in the pics below. And yes, we watched Hannah Montana. The colors were deep and rich with plenty of depth but also natural. The Sony S1000ES allows for YCbCr 4:4:4 with 12 bit upconverted color. The results were as good as I seen to date. Going 1080p/24 into my Sony VW200 PJ yielded excellent results. You get picture adjustments (including a complex but effective Gamma slider) as well as Sony's own picture settings. I left it in Standard (even though there is a theater, brighter room and memory selection) for the most part. I did do some tweaking but the Standard picture setting was very accurate... As for SD dvds, I was very impressed with the improvement over the 5000ES. The upconversion is nearly as good as the higher end models and most will be more than satisfied. Kudos goes to Sony for making progress.

Audio... I won't spend much time on it. I mainly bitstreamed but the 1000ES does have 7.1 analog outs with speaker settings. The brief time I did spend testing it out yielded pretty good results. Though I will say that is the only area the 1000ES falls behind the big boys (DVD-A1, 09FD to name a few). If you plan to use HDMI then there is nothing to worry about.

Remote (pic below)... The most important parts light up nicely. I especially like the way the bottom feels. It won't slip out of your hand! Hitting Display (pic below) shows the resolution, sound mode, disc type, Mpbs count and of course the spot in the movie. There is also a really cool scene search button. I was also successful when using an IR emitter without making it messy. You can easily slide it in from the side and it won't intrude.

Final thoughts... So where do we go from here? Honestly, your guess is as good as mine. We have truly reached the pinnacle of picture quality and the 1000ES proves it. Sony has outdone themselves as well as many others. If your main concern is picture quality and plan to bitstream then you cannot do any better than the 1000ES. Sony claims it was made for movie lovers by movie makers. Within seconds of first turning it on you can see that is not far fetched. I now have some tough choices of my own to make. Yes, it is that good! And as the 1000ES says when you tur it off, See You...

I have always been a firm believer that build quality meant something. The 1000ES is the first player I have come across where it doesn't.
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On Screen Display Pics...
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post #82 of 1183
Braveheart
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post #83 of 1183
Hannah or I mean Miley...
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post #84 of 1183
Thanks JoeRod!

I've been checking for weeks waiting for some feedback....sounds like a winner.

Sonystyle and Amazon the only places to get it???
post #85 of 1183
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

As for SD dvds, I was very impressed with the improvement over the 5000ES.

This appears strange as the BDP-S1000ES doesn't feature Precision Cinema HD Upscale which is included with the BDP-S5000ES.
post #86 of 1183
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

This appears strange as the BDP-S1000ES doesn't feature Precision Cinema HD Upscale which is included with the BDP-S5000ES.

Precision Cinema Upscale or not it is doing something the 5000ES doesn't. I am working on finding out exactly what that is... Not that there is a night or day difference. I am able to tweak the picture for a more satisfactory look. And not that I plan to watch many SD dvds.
post #87 of 1183
I notice you have the 1000ES player number 1 does this player out proformas your 09 player, Also great review as always, and is that a New VP you are testing that is in your rank.
post #88 of 1183
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Originally Posted by hdblu View Post

I notice you have the 1000ES player number 1 does this player out proformas your 09 player, Also great review as always, and is that a New VP you are testing that is in your rank.

Good catch. Actually it is at the top of the list because it is the last player I have reviewed.
post #89 of 1183
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Originally Posted by mookie b View Post

Thanks JoeRod!

I've been checking for weeks waiting for some feedback....sounds like a winner.

Sonystyle and Amazon the only places to get it???

Your welcome. At the moment it is hard to find...
post #90 of 1183
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

This appears strange as the BDP-S1000ES doesn't feature Precision Cinema HD Upscale which is included with the BDP-S5000ES.

According to Sony's web site it does. http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...52921665945151
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