Originally Posted by PogueSquadron
I hear your dilemma. The motion blur was what put me away from LCD's in the first place. My friends would try to tell me it's not that bad, but my friends also play quite different games than I do. I'm also an illustrator, so I notice visual things more easily than they do.
For the games I play, the blur would drive me crazy. It's not so bad in a 60fps shooter or something, where I really don't have any time to focus on blur, but even then, I'll notice that things come into focus when the action dies down. If I want to play something like Rayman or DKCR or even something like FF6 on the SNES...forget about it.
I think I'll be happy with the S60's input lag, though I do want to make sure. I want to at least compare it to my monitor, which I'm pretty sure is pushing 2-2.5 frames of lag. If my TV is significantly worse than my monitor, then I think I won't be worried at all.
And yeah...I think I'm just going to have to avoid CRTs entirely because it would just drive me absolutely insane. Or at least, just remember to play older games on the CRT, with newer games on the plasma. I'm usually okay if I play a game on a big screen exclusively, but lately, I feel like my TV just isn't cutting it.
Edit: Trying to test my current TV compared to my monitor. I think I finally got it right, because apparently my LCD's default res is 1360x768, not 1366x768 (which causes some weird problems). My monitor was consistently about 24-28ms ahead of the TV, so that may explain why the TV feels so sluggish. If my monitor is about 2 frames of lag as I've read, then I guess my TV is around 3.5 frames of lag (somewhere around 50ms+.
I've made up my mind, and i'm just going to get the 55" S60(for Wii U & Bluray)at the end of July. I was playing around with my 2012 panny X5 the other day and aside from being brighter, i was suprised at how amazing the color gamut was Vs my s30's....
The X5 produced super rich, vibrant, saturated and vivid colors(With the color gamut set to HD and color mgmt OFF, via component with the Wii in 480p) that felt like they were going to leap right off the screen, not to mention the color gamut is a lot
wider as well.... i then shifted back to my S30....VERY disapointing, the picture was just dull, dimmer, the colors look de-saturated, didn't have the oomph or intensity and flat out paled in comparison(The S30's colors do seem to look better on the PS3 when using an HDMI cable though)...With the X5 when playing the Wii through component(with color gamut set to HD, again 'SD' bumps up the lag by quite a bit) with video noise controls and color mgmt set to off, the controls felt a little over 2 frames(S30 using HDMI)....Makes sense i guess, since the UT50 and ST50 were in the 40-47ms range. But now somebody is saying that the U50 is 27ms, and the U54 is 23ms, which i find hard to believe but who am i to say. i haven't gone hands on with either.Yet somebody was actually complaining in another thread that the U50 felt sluggish compared to his CRT....Which would make sense as the X5 isn't even 23-27ms. i don't trust those figures.
But yeah, i think we just have to give in and realise that panny plasmas aren't going to get any lower than 32ms(HDMI). Like you said, leaping back to your CRT is a bad idea, for now get used to playing on your 3+ frame TV, so that when you finally DO make the purchase and test out your s60 you'll get a large noticable drop in lag . Just don't go back to your CRT(unless it's for retro gaming) and start doing comparisons!
Before i let my junky little S30 go, i'll be sure to do some of my own comparisons 'by feel' if there's any noticable lag with the S60 with HDMI & Component. But this won't be for another month, until then I'm going to watch movies and play Wii(+ Wii VC and retro NES+SNES) on my Sony 27" wega trinitron CRT SDTV hehe.Edited by WaveBoy - 6/21/13 at 7:57pm