Originally Posted by GetGray
I've got mixed feelings on this. The more I think about it the less I like it unless I misunderstood. If the material is going to be a mix (1.78, and "scope"), then I'd rather have some extra decision to get it going on the front end. I'd ust prefer the menu "fit" in either scenario. That is, make the menu so the buttons aren't obscured when in scope mode.
I may have misunderstood the intention as I admit to just skimming the suggestion (sorry). That said, if you are going to segregate the material below the aspect selections between "Scope" and 1.78:1 then I can see the utility of having the selection. For me the switch takes 1 second so not a big deal, but for a "zoomer"... different perspective. But in this case, you need representative subject material (e.g subwoofer demo) in 2.3x:1 and 1.78:1. You end up with double work, sort of 2 DVD's in one.
Let me try to clarify. First, all of the clips can be selected individually which would meet your desire to "have some extra decision to get it going on the front end".
The content will not intentionally be segregated by aspect ratio. However, most of the Blu-Ray movie content in the LFE and Surround categories by default will be 2.3x:1. This isn't a problem for folks who are 1.78:1 because when they currently play a 2.3x:1 Blu-Ray (or any other scope formatted SD flick) they just get the horizontal black bars. Nothing new for them here.
In a nutshell there would be:
- Two menu aspect ratios: the initial selection at load takes you into either a scope or 16:9 formatted menu system
- A single HD version of each of the content clips: both menus systems point at the same content
Originally Posted by oman321
As I understand it would be similar to selecting a theatrical version of a movie or an unrated version for example. You typically would select this just before the movies goes to menus. Same idea, select if you want 16:9 or 2:35, then the menu on out will be set to the proper AR.
The material won't be segregated for vertical stretch you'll simply get some clipping top and bottom. Zoomers are the ones that would suffer I believe.
Yes - this poses a problem for zoomers when they decide to pull up a 1.78:1 clip (assuming they start out zoomed and select the scope menu). However, the category menus (links to HD version)
contain an indication of the aspect ratio for each clip. If you have a memory function it will be easier to toggle. If you are manually making adjustments (manual sled and/or PJ w/o zoom or AR memory) you are probably already used to "the process".
Steve is on top of all this (and is scope if you didn't already know). One of the intial goals for this disc was to be "portable" and serve a variety of uses. So unless that goal is removed I think this setup might just work.
We want everyone's feedback before a decision is made. So please chime in with your thoughts.
P.S. We have talked about "2.3x:1 only" discs in a future series - perhaps a "CinemaScope" series. That is certainly a way off right now.