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post #61 of 762
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Originally Posted by napindc View Post

well I just set mine up last night and it's working great so far for the PS3 with gaming and blu-rays. I have the HDMI audio set as Linear PCM for the PS3, but when I press select while watching blu-ray's, it says it's Dolby Digital but not Dolby TrueHD... Anyone know if there is any specific setting that needs to be changed to set it to Dolby TrueHD?

I also set it up for my cable TV through component audio cables, but I can barely hear the sound until I crank it up to 45 or 50. By then the speakers start to make a loud buzzing sound as the volume is much higher than it should be. Anyone know why it's doing this? I have the intellivolume thing set to default, and the PS3 is loud when the receiver is at 35.

do you have the new PS3 Slim? If not it should just say multichannel audio on your receiver.
post #62 of 762
Finally! A remote that controls all my equipment.

Seriously, even "Universal" remotes always had a problem with something. The Onkyo remote handles everything.
post #63 of 762
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Originally Posted by jiesteve View Post

Just got a HT-RC160 last week... I have it in an enclosed cabinet and noticed that it runs quite hot. I'm looking at getting the ANTEC VERIS A/V cooler to put on top of it to cool it off. Anyone have any experience with this cooler or know of better/cheaper cooling solutions?

Thanks!

Not be smart about it but is a less enclosed option available? I've got about 6 inches on each side and about 5 inches on top plus a large cut-out at the rear. It does run hot but in the three-ish weeks I've had it, I've had no heat problems
post #64 of 762
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Originally Posted by jiesteve View Post

Just got a HT-RC160 last week... I have it in an enclosed cabinet and noticed that it runs quite hot. I'm looking at getting the ANTEC VERIS A/V cooler to put on top of it to cool it off. Anyone have any experience with this cooler or know of better/cheaper cooling solutions?

I like the previous idea of using the U-port's 12-V pins, but i don't know how to do that. It's prolly better than my idea. I'm thinking of buying a "thermal fan controller" from Amazon and hooking up some case fans 12v molex cord i have. The fans turn on at ~87°F (30°C).

Hooking up to the U-port would be cheaper.
post #65 of 762
Thanks for the reply. I'd love to know the pins as well. Is the 12V supply on whenever the receiver is powered on, but off when it is in standby? If so, that is perfect for a fan control.

No idea where to pick up a Universal port connector, I'm afraid.
post #66 of 762
I'm interested in upgrading an older Onkyo unit with this one, mainly for HDMI and to take advantage of lossless audio, as it will reduce clutter and the need for my current HDMI switch setup.

I've looked around a bit, but I want to be absolutely sure before I bite the bullet and commit to the 160: I know the PS3 doesn't bitstream lossless audio, but this unit apparently does Multichannel PCM over HDMI which is roughly equivalent, correct?

Stereomandan's informative review on the first page makes it sound like it's going to do what I want it to:

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Originally Posted by stereomandan View Post

My PS3 decodes the Dolby HD and DTS HD audio codecs and only sends them out thru HDMI PCM, not bitstream. The only bummer about this is that I don't get to see the DTS HD or Dolby HD symbols light up on the Onkyo display. No big deal, the reciever is still playing the soundtracks it should, but I wish the PS3 would bitstream the audio of the lossless codecs so that I could see the cool dispay light up on the Onkyo.

So it's the same lossless track you'd be getting via bitstream? Sorry to be a tad on the ignorant side, I haven't had any experience with lossless sound or surround sound not carried by an optical connection.
post #67 of 762
Thread Starter 
Yes, that is correct. If you have a PS3, you need to send the audio to the Onkyo through HDMI as PCM, not bitstream. You will be getting the lossless audio this way and it is the same as a Blu-ray player sending out lossless bitstream and having the Onkyo decode it. This is because the PS3 is able to decode these lossless codecs internally, then send it out through PCM so that the receiver doesn't need to. This is, as long as the blu-ray is recorded with lossless audio. This is how I have it setup with my PS3 and it sounds fantastic. While watching a Blu-ray, you can check the audio mode by pressing the display button on the PS3 remote.

Dan
post #68 of 762
Thanks very much for the confirmation, I'll probably place my order later on this morning. I'm also going to have to snag a phono preamp for my turntable since this receiver doesn't have one (not a big deal, most AVR's don't these days), but thanks to the excellent price on this unit, I can add a decent preamp for $50 and still come out ahead.
post #69 of 762
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Originally Posted by stereomandan View Post

Since you are new to this, you should definately use the Audyssey EQ to setup and balance your speakers. You don't need an SPL meter, since the Audyssey system takes care of it all. I don't use the dynamic volume.

Enjoy, it's a great receiver.

Dan

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Originally Posted by Speck's Dad View Post

You may still choose to do some manual tweaking but once Audyssey sets you up you shouldn't have to mess with your settings though i did. Audyssey isn't perfect but it gets close. i use the light setting for Dynamic Volume. It gives me a good boost to my center channel and maintains the effect of the surrounds during low volume movie watching...which is most nights once the toddler is asleep.

Just wanted to say thanks for the responses, guys. I appreciate it.
post #70 of 762
Just pulled the trigger for a refurbished unit from Shop Onkyo. Is there a firmware upgrade available for this receiver or is everything good to go? Thanks.
post #71 of 762
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Originally Posted by Geaux Tigers View Post

Just pulled the trigger for a refurbished unit from Shop Onkyo. Is there a firmware upgrade available for this receiver or is everything good to go? Thanks.

You're good. Wait for the shipping and enjoy it.
post #72 of 762
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Originally Posted by nohrice4yooh View Post

Hey guys. I got my HT-RC160 setup. It works great by the way. However, I'm having trouble upconverting my wii. It only outputs 480p. I read the manual, and it says to set the input as "------." When I do this, i don't get a signal at all. Am I doing this right?

I finally figured out the problem. That's what the video button on the remote is for. Who needs a stinkin' manual.
post #73 of 762
Hey guys,

I recently purchased this receiever. It has yet to be delivered but in my normal OCD way I am already planning how to hook it up. Im running into a bit of a snag however.

According to the manual to get component to output via HDMI both the HDMI setup and component setup otpions should be set to "-----". My problem is, this to me means that I cannot reassign IN1 to anything other than CBL/SAT and I cant reassign IN2 to anything other than DVD/BD.

This means I can only have 5 total high definition items connected at a time. I had thought I could do 7 (5 HDMI and 2 Component). However, since the inputs overlap(CBL/SAT and DVD/BD are in both the HDMI and Component panels) it appears as though I am limited to 5.

Can anyone comment on this?

The reason this is a big deal to me is I have:

PS3 - HDMI
XBOX - HDMI
TiVo - HDMI
CABLE Box - HDMI
Wii - Component

From my understanding I have at that point maxed out the capabilities of the receiver meaning if I want to add a device to my setup its not going to be easy or im going to have to purchase a new receiver. It seems odd to me that I have 5 HDMI and 2 Component inputs but can only connect 5 devices. Am I missing something here?
post #74 of 762
Component input setup affects only the component input. It doesn't affect hdmi input configuration. For comp. input setup, "-----" tells the receiver to direct the output to HDMI out, with upscaling. (I think, for hdmi input, "-----" tells the receiver to enable upscaling)

In my case, I had connected my PS3 to the BD/DVD to the hdmi input with label "IN 1 (dvd/bd)". I had my old panasonic dvd player to the Component Video "IN 1 (dvd/bd)".

With the receiver in the "DVD/BD" mode, I could watch either PS3 or the DVD player, depending on which I had ON/playing. Never tried with both the players on at the same time though.

You should be able to use every connector in the back panel
post #75 of 762
Hey guys

I really like this unit and the price point is amazing, the only thing keeping me from pulling the trigger and buying is the video scaler. First of does the F. Edge work on content that is transmitted from the device to the receiver via hdmi? This is very important to me since I am using hdmi on my cable box (the new motorola dcx 34xx very soon) and my ps3 (well I will be when my new sureconnect elite cables from torrent inc come in).

How does F. Edge compare to the F. Cinema processing found in the 807 or the Anchor Bay 2010 chip found in the Denon 890?

Will it be able to convert/scale my 720p ps3 games to 1080p?
post #76 of 762
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Originally Posted by dsMultiAccount View Post

Hey guys

I really like this unit and the price point is amazing, the only thing keeping me from pulling the trigger and buying is the video scaler. First of does the F. Edge work on content that is transmitted from the device to the receiver via hdmi? This is very important to me since I am using hdmi on my cable box (the new motorola dcx 34xx very soon) and my ps3 (well I will be when my new sureconnect elite cables from torrent inc come in).

How does F. Edge compare to the F. Cinema processing found in the 807 or the Anchor Bay 2010 chip found in the Denon 890?

Will it be able to convert/scale my 720p ps3 games to 1080p?

I have no idea about chips in other products. I do believe it upconverts stuff to 1080p but reviews I've read say that it isn't a great upconverting AVR. I can't speak to that either b/c I have a 720p DLP RPTV. Your HDTV will upconvert everything it gets to 1080p (I think)....and I would assume a TV does a better job in general of coverting to 1080p than a mid-range AVR would.
post #77 of 762
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Originally Posted by jiesteve View Post

Which are the +12V and GND pins? and what 12v cooling fans are you using?

I'm using 2 Antec 120mm 12v case fans at the lowest RPM setting. The U-Port +12V pin is the second pin from the bottom on the right row and you can use the sleeve for GND.

Here's a pic of my primitive/functional wiring. I used a small paper clip to hold the GND connection in place.

post #78 of 762
matty256,

Why not run your cable over to a 12V DC relay inside a small project box that has 120V AC going to it? Then you could switch one or more 120V outlets on and off, including a wall wart for your fans. This gives your the additional capability of turning on and off a sub-woofer etc.
post #79 of 762
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Originally Posted by matty256 View Post

I'm using 2 Antec 120mm 12v case fans at the lowest RPM setting. The U-Port +12V pin is the second pin from the bottom on the right row and you can use the sleeve for GND.

Here's a pic of my primitive/functional wiring. I used a small paper clip to hold the GND connection in place.


Johnny, what has he won? A voided warranty Bob!
post #80 of 762
I am considering getting this receiver, but have a question or two first....Here is the first one.

I would like to hook up a Wii via VLR to the composite Game input (in order to reserve the component input for the future). How good is this upconverted input going to be when displayed on a 720P TV via HDMI?

Thanks
post #81 of 762
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Originally Posted by abward View Post

I am considering getting this receiver, but have a question or two first....Here is the first one.

I would like to hook up a Wii via VLR to the composite Game input (in order to reserve the component input for the future). How good is this upconverted input going to be when displayed on a 720P TV via HDMI?

Thanks

I don't do any upconverting via my ht-rc160 but I've read that it's so-so. I would assume that most TVs are going to upconvert better than most AVRs do.
post #82 of 762
Thread Starter 
I pretty sure this receiver will only upconvert to 1080i, not 1080P. If the incoming signal is 1080P however, it WILL pass it through without any issues. My PS3 is outputing 1080P at 24hz and 60 hz with no problem to my Epson 1080UB through 45 ft of HDMI through this receiver.

Dan
post #83 of 762
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Originally Posted by abward View Post

Why not run your cable over to a 12V DC relay inside a small project box that has 120V AC going to it? Then you could switch one or more 120V outlets on and off...

Can you recommend a specific relay or box kit? My subwoofer needlessly draws 4 watts in standby mode, which would be nice to save.

FYI, leave HDMI-CEC disabled unless you need this feature as it causes the receiver to consume ~35 watts in standby mode and generate a lot of heat. With HDMI-CEC disabled the standby mode consumes less than 1 watt.
post #84 of 762
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Originally Posted by matty256 View Post

Can you recommend a specific relay or box kit?

No, sorry. It was just and idea, since you seem to be handy with wires. I suspect Digikey, The Shack, or someone like that would have a 12V DPDT relay that has contacts that can handle 120V at 10 or 20 amps. They probably have project boxes too, but even Home Depot has plastic electrical boxes that will do. Let us know if you pursue this!

If and when I get around to getting this receiver, I would be interested in something like this, since I want to switch on/off 2 cabinet cooling fans, a sub-woofer, and probably a cooling fan layed on top of this receiver. These days, 12V low-noise PC cooling fans are very quiet.
post #85 of 762
Does anyone know what happens when you set the front speakers to FULL RANGE? Do I take this to mean that no bass from the fronts is going to the sub unless I set the DOUBLE BASS option to ON?
post #86 of 762
My Questions:

1. Anyone understand the Wii issue when its up-converted to 1080i why it it doesn't fill the screen? I have about 4 inch sidebars. Everything is set right for widescreen.

2. How come 5.1 sources like ESPN-HD render audio to the back channels but not the side rears in Dolby EX mode? Other 5.1 sources do this okay like Universal-HD, NBC, CBS, FOX, and so on?

3. How do I get 5.1 TrueHD and DTS Master audio from Blu-Rays to spread across all 7 channels? I have a Panasonic BD80 Blu-Ray Player.
post #87 of 762
Well I have had this receiver for about a month now and am loving it. (I upgraded from a Panasonic SA-HE70.) I totally agree with other owners that said they couldn't believe how well this receiver made their speakers sound. The sound is much tighter and cleaner which makes it sound louder. The first audio I heard was from some prime-time show in HD. Not sure what it was, the TV happened to be on the channel but i noticed that i could hear very distinct background sounds like newspaper pages turning, birds chirping, coffee brewing and silverware clinking. All these sound were clearly audible as well as character dialog. I did not get this kind of depth of clarity with my other receiver. After about 2 weeks i hooked up the front highs and am glad i did. Crowd noise during football games fills my basement from floor to ceiling. They are very noticeable when i play games on my 360 as well. While playing Overlord I could hear this crow coming from my front high right speaker only. Wind and other weather sounds came from it as well. During blu ray playback the front highs pop on for music and other background noise but again are very noticeable. I am very happy with this receiver and very happy with getting it refurbished from onkyo.
post #88 of 762
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Originally Posted by Airhead315 View Post

Hey guys,

I recently purchased this receiever.

Can anyone comment on this?

The reason this is a big deal to me is I have:

PS3 - HDMI
XBOX - HDMI
TiVo - HDMI
CABLE Box - HDMI
Wii - Component

Considering getting this unit to replace my 10+ year old Denon. My big question is the WII. I want to make sure you can connect via component and assign analog audio to the component input. I just downloaded the manual and will also search there.
post #89 of 762
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Originally Posted by Speck's Dad View Post

Does anyone know what happens when you set the front speakers to FULL RANGE? Do I take this to mean that no bass from the fronts is going to the sub unless I set the DOUBLE BASS option to ON?

I'm pretty sure that's the case. I haven't tested it, but that's the way I understood the "full range" setting to work. I have mine set at 120 hz (the crossover I'm using for my take 5's). "Full range" is effectively no crossover for a particular speaker. Can anyone confirm this or tell me I'm wrong?

I'm actually slightly confused about what "double bass" does, too. When using double bass, at what freq does the receiver send sounds to the speaker and the sub? Not that I'm using it in my particular setup....I'm just curious.
post #90 of 762
Hi everyone. I got my receiver less than a week ago and am anxiously waiting to test it out with my set of Fluance AVHTB+ Surround Sound Home Theater 5 Speaker System which is arriving today. I am a total noob and am no audiophile but I can tell when something sounds rich and clear. I have three questions.

1. Has anyone had any experienBce with Fluance speakers with this model avr and if so how do they sound after the initial break-in period?

2. The speakers are Bi-Amp capable so I am wondering what the optimal setup would be. Should I go with the standard hookup or use Bi-Amp?

3. And finally, my subwoofer is a Polk PSW505 and it has the following type of connections. Inputs: Speaker level 5-way binding posts, Outputs: Speaker level; Line In (filtered) and LFE (unfiltered).
What is the best way to hook it up for optimal sound?

Any help is greatly appreciated.
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