Originally Posted by mironto
Well, it's obvious, isn't it? Pioneer took the costly route and the price they had to pay ended in closing down the plants.
Panasonic took the more cost effective route and sold millions of sets making 90% of the people loving their TV (excluding enthusiasts here who thought they will get Kuro blacks for an LG price).
With today's technology the better blacks you get the more money you play for. Check the last Top Gear series where they tested some Nissan or Toyota (can't remember what it was) which was made out of carbon fiber and other NASA stuff, excellent handling, acceleration, etc. but has costed more than 3x of a supercar like Ferrari or Lamborghini.
Mironto, please don't perpetuate this falsehood of "enthusiasts expecting Kuro blacks for cheap prices."
Here is the bottom line:
- People received their sets new with X black level. This black level is not
Kuro black and no one here ever claimed that they expected Kuro black. Nonetheless, the black level is excellent out of box.
- At some point in the future (1 month, 3 months, 6 months, ? months) X black level unexpectedly
rises to 3X. Yes, it is blatantly obvious when it occurs. You do not have to look at an all-black screen to notice it - general viewing is affected and appears washed out in comparison to the out-of-box picture. Not just dark scenes but ALL scenes are affected.
This is not
some isolated problem that only affects dark or black scenes.
- Although everyone here can agree that the 1 million to 1 contrast ratio was a bunch of marketing hoopla, a 3X rise in less than a year would put their advertised contrast at 250,000:1, in effect false advertising.
Considering that comparable display technologies do not degrade in performance in a matter of months
(except for projection displays, which can be cleaned & have bulbs replaced), there is a reasonable expectation that the performance of the plasma TVs would not degrade within months
We're not talking about carbon fiber rice burners, we're talking about TVs with highly advertised features ("Infinite Black") that are suddenly crippled without warning or remedy.