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post #9001 of 10800
7/5/10 at 10:09am
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Originally Posted by John Kramer View Post

Now, that seems possible. Or at least have a script written to flash the board back to the beginning with a replace-board type command. Hmmmm.... nice

Did you try resetting your clock to 0? This will prevent any rise!
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post #9002 of 10800
7/5/10 at 10:38am
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Originally Posted by mustangs1 View Post

Did you try resetting your clock to 0? This will prevent any rise!

How often would you have to do this to consistently prevent any rise? In other words, does anyone know the timing of the first programmed rise? Is it at 25 hours, 50 hours, 100 hours?
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post #9003 of 10800
7/5/10 at 10:51am
This is the guy that tried turning the pot down (which did nothing), then turned it up and shorted out the TV. I was refered to as a "troll" by one of the so-called guru's on this site but I thought I'd at least share what was replaced to get TV up and running again:
Tech from place of purchase replaced - (2) SD boards, one at a time. Neither got the
tv up. Then he replaced SC1 board (where the pot I turned was located). TV came on and is fine now. No change is black level from before.
I was just wondering, at the expense of being called a "troll" again ( I seem to have gotten over it), has anyone ever heard the term "beating a dead horse?"
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post #9004 of 10800
7/5/10 at 10:59am
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Originally Posted by anthrojohn View Post

How often would you have to do this to consistently prevent any rise? In other words, does anyone know the timing of the first programmed rise? Is it at 25 hours, 50 hours, 100 hours?

I'm assuming its after 100 hours, somewhere between 150-200, as this is when I first noticed it.
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post #9005 of 10800
7/5/10 at 11:13am
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Originally Posted by anthrojohn View Post


How often would you have to do this to consistently prevent any rise? In other words, does anyone know the timing of the first programmed rise? Is it at 25 hours, 50 hours, 100 hours?

No. I remember reading people had different ways of doing it. I'm thinking I should. What way were you thinking?
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post #9006 of 10800
7/5/10 at 11:36am
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Originally Posted by katzman View Post

I was just wondering, has anyone ever heard the term "beating a dead horse?"

Katzman, thanks for sharing your repair experience with us, and glad it worked out for you. Your voltage adjustment attempt gives us a little pause in experimentation.

However, for some of us, we continue to seek answers because it is more of a hobby or the thrill of discovering something new. I can appreciate those who are conservative and leave things alone especially if they are working, but I more appreciate those who experiment and expand their knowledge. This challenge of finding a solution is what makes technology so exciting!
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post #9007 of 10800
7/5/10 at 11:39am
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Originally Posted by katzman View Post

This is the guy that tried turning the pot down (which did nothing), then turned it up and shorted out the TV. I was refered to as a "troll" by one of the so-called guru's on this site but I thought I'd at least share what was replaced to get TV up and running again:
Tech from place of purchase replaced - (2) SD boards, one at a time. Neither got the
tv up. Then he replaced SC1 board (where the pot I turned was located). TV came on and is fine now. No change is black level from before.
I was just wondering, at the expense of being called a "troll" again ( I seem to have gotten over it), has anyone ever heard the term "beating a dead horse?"

LOL at least someone didnt tell you you were to stupid to be in this thread. And yes that was actually said in this thread and thats when I gave up on this thread. Sometime last year, said the person was to stupid and that this was science and proceeded to berate (while at the same time extolling all of his brains ) the person. There are some arrogant a$$es in this forum
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post #9008 of 10800
7/5/10 at 11:42am
^"Too"...Don't prove them right.
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post #9009 of 10800
7/5/10 at 11:45am
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Originally Posted by John Kramer View Post

No. I remember reading people had different ways of doing it. I'm thinking I should. What way were you thinking?

I'd reset it to zero continuously, or try resetting to like 4,000 hours. It should be in the 2nd line of the STBY EEPROM. It was on my S1
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post #9010 of 10800
7/5/10 at 12:21pm
OK,
what we need is an EEPROM JIG

http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/eu...pearssplit.pdf



This contains and resets the firmware
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post #9011 of 10800
7/5/10 at 12:42pm
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Originally Posted by mustangs1 View Post


I'd reset it to zero continuously, or try resetting to like 4,000 hours. It should be in the 2nd line of the STBY EEPROM. It was on my S1

...what was the other way, then? I thought there was something in the LSI data..??
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post #9012 of 10800
7/5/10 at 12:59pm
Latest reading:
Model: TCP65S1
Build date: October 2009
Hours: 1003
Video processor: iScan Duo with firmware 2.2
Using AVCHD disc with 0 IRE the reading is 0.010 ftL
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post #9013 of 10800
7/5/10 at 4:16pm
Ive got a problem. I have 171 hours, no rise yet but I need to reset this thing immediately and this is what I have:

Do I put 00 for every value in these lines for 6c8 and 6d0?
LL
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post #9014 of 10800
7/5/10 at 4:31pm
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Originally Posted by John Kramer View Post

Ive got a problem. I have 171 hours, no rise yet but I need to reset this thing immediately and this is what I have:

Do I put 00 for every value in these lines for 6c8 and 6d0?

I don't think that is your clock

Check your EEPROM(STBY) and look at line 2 and take a picture
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post #9015 of 10800
7/5/10 at 4:32pm
I'm looking like crazy to find the damn clock - there's 171 hours so far... EEPROM line 2 is all ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
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post #9016 of 10800
7/5/10 at 4:33pm
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Originally Posted by John Kramer View Post

I'm looking like crazy to find the damn clock - there's 171 hours so far...

Oh, do you have an STBY EEPROM? Or just one?
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post #9017 of 10800
7/5/10 at 4:35pm
I have STBY EEPROM. Line 2 is all ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
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post #9018 of 10800
7/5/10 at 4:38pm
See? Here's my problem.
LL
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post #9019 of 10800
7/5/10 at 4:38pm
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Originally Posted by John Kramer View Post

I have STBY EEPROM. Line 2 is all ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff

Ill try searching through those files you sent me again
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post #9020 of 10800
7/5/10 at 4:39pm
I'm getting paranoid that this thing is gonna rise before I can reset it...
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post #9021 of 10800
7/5/10 at 4:44pm
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Originally Posted by John Kramer View Post

I'm getting paranoid that this thing is gonna rise before I can reset it...

Can I have hours, minutes, and times turned on ? Ill tell the values you should see around or on the same line.

I think it will be located in the STBY FW. FOr some reason, those files you sent me didn't include the STBY FW
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post #9022 of 10800
7/5/10 at 4:47pm
Got it

EEPROM stby pic I posted a few posts up where I said, here's my problem
LL
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post #9023 of 10800
7/5/10 at 4:50pm
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Originally Posted by John Kramer View Post

Got it

EEPROM stby pic I posted a few posts up where I said, here's my problem

Tell me if you find any combination of a 28 (Or maybe a 02 and 08), and 5f on or next to each other, and take a picture. There may or may not be an AB near this line

Try in the STBY FW first, its shorter, and I din't get that in the files you sent me, and your clock wasn't in those files. SO its likely the STBY EEPROM
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post #9024 of 10800
7/5/10 at 5:10pm
There isn't anything like what you described anywhere in my STBY EEPROM anywhere. lol

Or, in peaks, btw

I'm hard pressed to believe that someone hasn't reset the clock on a 50v10 yet...
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post #9025 of 10800
7/5/10 at 6:11pm
At least 2 other people besides me have tried the clock reset several months back and it definitely doesn't work.

Whatever counter or timer is causing the black level to increase is probably stored in the LSI-data because the other 3 memories have been extensively checked by several people on the German hifi-forum.
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post #9026 of 10800
7/5/10 at 6:59pm
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Originally Posted by sonic_blue View Post

At least 2 other people besides me have tried the clock reset several months back and it definitely doesn't work.

Whatever counter or timer is causing the black level to increase is probably stored in the LSI-data because the other 3 memories have been extensively checked by several people on the German hifi-forum.

Yeah, but all of these models in question were post-rise sets, right? It might be worth a shot to attempt it on my set that hasn't risen (since the new a-board). Maybe it won't work, but I'm so willing to try because I'm coming up on 172 hours, and... It's about to jump real soon I'm guessing.

And for what its worth, I can find nowhere after looking for hours, where the lines in peaks or anywhere else even CONTAIN the clock data. Just a few people with S or G models... No V10's.
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post #9027 of 10800
7/5/10 at 7:52pm
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Originally Posted by mustangs1 View Post

OK,
what we need is an EEPROM JIG

http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/eu...pearssplit.pdf



This contains and resets the firmware

Any idea what the other port on the jig is for? I assume programming the EPROM on the jig. Be neat to see the documentation that comes with it.

Has anyone dug up the flash files? And or know what series or processor the flash is for?


It also looks like that part number is discontinued. There's a bunch of posts for it on these forums with a quick search.
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post #9028 of 10800
7/5/10 at 8:00pm
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Originally Posted by SiGGy View Post

It doesn't contain anything, it's an interface. Any idea what the other port on the jig is for? And or if it has a interface to computer. Be neat to see the documentation that comes with it.

Has anyone dug up the flash files? And or know what series or processor the flash is for?

Well then where is the FW coming from?
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post #9029 of 10800
7/5/10 at 8:00pm
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Originally Posted by John Kramer View Post

Yeah, but all of these models in question were post-rise sets, right? It might be worth a shot to attempt it on my set that hasn't risen (since the new a-board). Maybe it won't work, but I'm so willing to try because I'm coming up on 172 hours, and... It's about to jump real soon I'm guessing.

I see what you mean, that could be worth a shot.
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post #9030 of 10800
7/5/10 at 8:09pm
So, isn't there a sd card method of resetting the clock? Forget my peaks or lsi data or anything else - there's nothing I or mustangs1 could find in regards to where my clock was. Again, I'm surprised nobody has done this to a v10 yet.
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