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Viewsonic Pro8100 or Sanyo PLV-Z3000?

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OK, I'm looking to upgrade from my Epson HC400, which would be the better deal? The Sanyo has better blacks, and with the rebate is $1899. The Viewsonic has fancy processing, motorized shift/zoom, and just looks way cool! Would I be better off with the Viewsonic at $1299, or pony up the extra $600 for the Sanyo?
post #2 of 32
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Originally Posted by floridapoolboy View Post

OK, I'm looking to upgrade from my Epson HC400, which would be the better deal? The Sanyo has better blacks, and with the rebate is $1899. The Viewsonic has fancy processing, motorized shift/zoom, and just looks way cool! Would I be better off with the Viewsonic at $1299, or pony up the extra $600 for the Sanyo?

If you have the gas the Sanyo is the way to go. It's 120hz and has really good blacks. Its very bright and has excellent colors. I wan the Sanyo, but funds are limited and i wish i could buy it.
post #3 of 32
sanyo have very soft image no sharpness at all, white tend to yellow , weak color when comparied to viewsonic , in projectorreviews tests : not bright enough for 110" ! , without thinking viewsonic worth more than twice of sanyo plv-3000, and keep this 600$ for 7.1 avrecevier.
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sanyo have very soft image no sharpness at all, white tend to yellow , weak color when comparied to viewsonic , in projectorreviews tests : not bright enough for 110" ! , without thinking viewsonic worth more than twice of sanyo plv-3000, and keep this 600$ for 7.1 avrecevier.

Sanyo is extremely sharp go over to projectorcentral.com and read reviews
and is very bright as well can easily go over 110".
post #5 of 32
dear johnifehr sanyo is sharp and bright but not to compare with the viewsonic pro8100
and projectorcentral dont offer projectors movie images as projectorreviews.com you can check the same image and see the difference.
post #6 of 32
contrast and shadow detail is no where near the z3000, only thing its got over z3000 is brightness and which most people don't need and the z3000 has 5:5 pull down and smooth motion, and for movies may it be blu ray or standard def the z3000 is superior. no image noise and dynamic irs issues. For only 600 bucks more you get all the latest technology and won't have to upgrade for a long time. IMO
post #7 of 32
and what about sharpness and color and HQV-210(HOLLYWOOD QUALITY VIDEO), motorized lens shift vertical and horizental, motorized foucs, piano look , .............etc and the iris issue was solved with 2.5 firmware update and confirmed by projectorreviews it self at their fourms also sanyo dosent produce lamps for its projectors. anyway i am not try to open an argue here, "each party are happy with which they have" but the difference obvious to the eye.
post #8 of 32
Thats cool but I don't even have the z3000, from what I see read and hear, your right it is obvious to the eye. There's a reason why the z3000 is catagorized in the high end projectors.
post #9 of 32
I am thinking about getting the viewsonic how does it compare to the hd20?
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Originally Posted by slickdealmike View Post

I am thinking about getting the viewsonic how does it compare to the hd20?


Much better ergonomics, power zoom/shift focus, easy placement, etc. No doubt much quieter, but if the hd20 can work in your setup you may get better contrast. I went for the Pro8100, I just can't go back to DLP placement issues!
post #11 of 32
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Originally Posted by floridapoolboy View Post

Much better ergonomics, power zoom/shift focus, easy placement, etc. No doubt much quieter, but if the hd20 can work in your setup you may get better contrast. I went for the Pro8100, I just can't go back to DLP placement issues!

Thanks I will have a lot of light in the room will that matter between the two?
post #12 of 32
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Thanks I will have a lot of light in the room will that matter between the two?

When there is a lot of ambient light in a room the contrast takes a big hit. The brighter a PJ is, the better in this case. Art's review of the Pro8100 says that it is one of the brightest 1080P projectors, which is what i was looking for. My room has a white ceiling and light colored walls, so I didn't think added contrast at the expense of brightness (Sanyo Z3000) would be as effective. In the case of the Optoma I haven't read any reviews, so it's tough to tell how bright it really will be. I do know, however, that in terms of placement and user convenience it's no contest, power shift/focus/zoom is WAY better than the rigid setup requirements of the Optoma.
post #13 of 32
floridapoolboy: Did you get your pro8100 yet, if so, how do you find it?

I am looking into getting my first projector and the pro8100 at its current price point of 1300 + bing cashback looks like an awesome deal, just not too sure on the lumens, seem a little low-ish which I know is subjective and depends on ambient light, I'm talking spec-wise.

Let me know what you think of yours.
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floridapoolboy: Did you get your pro8100 yet, if so, how do you find it?

I am looking into getting my first projector and the pro8100 at its current price point of 1300 + bing cashback looks like an awesome deal, just not too sure on the lumens, seem a little low-ish which I know is subjective and depends on ambient light, I'm talking spec-wise.

Let me know what you think of yours.


I'm still waiting for the PJ to arrive. I had to re-order through a different store, the original store ran out and gave me the runaround. Check out the review at www.projectorcentral.com, the 8100 has plenty of lumens.
post #15 of 32
Well, I just bit the bullet and ordered the pro8100.
My first projector
post #16 of 32
those of you who have the pro 8100, is there any sde from 8 feet away? thanx for any reply
post #17 of 32
I just got my pro8100 last night (ordered from TD), and I gotta say, this thing is awesome. Sitting about 10 feet away, 110" image, no SDE, or any other nasty effects; just pure awesomeness.

I upgraded from an aging and ailing Infocus 4805, and I upgraded my DVD player from an Oppo 981 to the Oppo BDP-83. Gotta say, I'm really, really happy with this set-up, and I haven't tweaked the settings yet or anything. Black levels are superb (at least, in my light-controlled room with white walls and ceiling, this is probably about as good as the black levels can get). The Pro8100 is almost totally silent (major improvement from the 4805), and in 3 hours of Blu-ray watching last night (an episode of "Planet Earth" and "Crank"), I didn't notice the dynamic iris even once. BTW, my unit had the latest firmware (1.51) preinstalled on it, which is the version that fixes the iris issues.

The build quality on the Pro8100 is top-notch, but, as mentioned elsewhere on this forum, it is really, really massive...so make sure you have enough space before you buy (I'm going to have to build a bigger shelf for it...).

Now that it seems like so many people are buying the Pro8100, we should start an official thread so we can pool knowledge regarding settings, performance tweaks, etc.
post #18 of 32
And btw, as for lumens, when I first turned the thing on (before I ratcheted down the output by switching to cinema mode and low-power mode) I thought my eyes were going to melt clean out of my skull. This thing seemed plenty bright (I actually got a headache from the brightness before I figured out how to turn down the lumens...).
post #19 of 32
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And btw, as for lumens, when I first turned the thing on (before I ratcheted down the output by switching to cinema mode and low-power mode) I thought my eyes were going to melt clean out of my skull. This thing seemed plenty bright (I actually got a headache from the brightness before I figured out how to turn down the lumens...).

Haha, good to hear its plenty bright, is that in a COMPLETELY dark room or do you have SOME ambient light?

I knew it was big before I ordered it, its probably a mammoth in terms of projectors these days as it is a few years old model.
Gives a good sense of build quality and also allows for plenty of internal cooling which is probably why this unit is also said to run pretty quiet as far as projectors are concerned which was a concern to me as my room is not that large and it will be in close proximity to my sitting position.

And yes, an official thread for it would be good, dunno how one is started though, can anyone do it or does it have to be a mod?
post #20 of 32
There was definitely some ambient light; two of the walls in the room have windows running across them, and half of the shades were open, and it was around dusk when I was setting it up.
post #21 of 32
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Originally Posted by nmuntean View Post

I didn't notice the dynamic iris even once. BTW, my unit had the latest firmware (1.51) preinstalled on it, which is the version that fixes the iris issues.

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I don't think that this is the latest firmware..so iris issue might still be there
post #22 of 32
thanks for answering my question i think i may order the 8100
post #23 of 32
Latest firmware for pro8100 is 2.5.

Grab it from Viewsonic
post #24 of 32
Hello all! This is my first post, though I have been viewing this forum for a while. I am seriously considering picking up the pro8100 but the only concern I have is lumen output. My basement room is approximately 22ft. long and I plan to rear mount/shelf the unit. There is some ambient light during the day but it can be for the most part limited. Though, I would like to watch football during the day with some lamps on in there. I plan on projecting from a 120-130" diaganol image. Using the projection calculator I think the distance will be fine. The only question I have is in regards to lumen output. It is around 7-10 depending on screen gain. I know the calculator utilizes manufacturer data, so I am wondering if the lumen data is accurate. Do you think I should have concerns? I know tweaking between different modes and calibrating the unit will help. I have read Art's review and he has ranges from 600-1200 lumens but at what distance I am not sure (it might be in the middle of its zoom range). But, before I make the plunge, I want to make sure it will not be too dim.

Thanks!
post #25 of 32
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Originally Posted by Boomer44 View Post

Hello all! This is my first post, though I have been viewing this forum for a while. I am seriously considering picking up the pro8100 but the only concern I have is lumen output. My basement room is approximately 22ft. long and I plan to rear mount/shelf the unit. There is some ambient light during the day but it can be for the most part limited. Though, I would like to watch football during the day with some lamps on in there. I plan on projecting from a 120-130" diaganol image. Using the projection calculator I think the distance will be fine. The only question I have is in regards to lumen output. It is around 7-10 depending on screen gain. I know the calculator utilizes manufacturer data, so I am wondering if the lumen data is accurate. Do you think I should have concerns? I know tweaking between different modes and calibrating the unit will help. I have read Art's review and he has ranges from 600-1200 lumens but at what distance I am not sure (it might be in the middle of its zoom range). But, before I make the plunge, I want to make sure it will not be too dim.

Thanks!

If the calculator is showing 7 to 10 Ft Lamberts'That would be to dim for me.I like at least 15 or more for sports.You could use a High power screen though and that would make it work'plus maybe a 110in screen and get 15 to 22.
post #26 of 32
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I don't know why the calculator shows the 8100 as being dim, when the review states the opposite. I think the calculator is screwed up, it shows the Pro8100 as giving 14fL on my 96" screen at 13 1/2 feet, while it shows the Sanyo Z3000 as giving 16fL at the same size and distance. According to all the reviews I've read the Sanyo is very dim, and the Pro8100 is supposed to be much brighter. So wazzup with that?
post #27 of 32
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Originally Posted by floridapoolboy View Post

I don't know why the calculator shows the 8100 as being dim, when the review states the opposite. I think the calculator is screwed up, it shows the Pro8100 as giving 14fL on my 96" screen at 13 1/2 feet, while it shows the Sanyo Z3000 as giving 16fL at the same size and distance. According to all the reviews I've read the Sanyo is very dim, and the Pro8100 is supposed to be much brighter. So wazzup with that?

Their is quite a bit of light loss I guess shooting at 22ft than your 13ft'By the way poolboy'I just check J&R WEBSITE and they are now showing the 8100 out of stock.Hope you get yours soon.
post #28 of 32
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Their is quite a bit of light loss I guess shooting at 22ft than your 13ft'By the way poolboy'I just check J&R WEBSITE and they are now showing the 8100 out of stock.Hope you get yours soon.

Mine is in transit, the UPS site says it will be here on the 19th. I can't wait, I should have been watching it already, but I lost 5 days screwing around with TD. Oh well, better late than never! As far as the calculator goes, my point is they show the 8100 as throwing less lumens than the Z3000 at all sizes and distances, which is just incorrect. By all accounts the 8100 is much brighter than the Z3000, so the calculator must be wrong.
post #29 of 32
I would have to agree.The sanyo is known to be the dimmest 1080p around.Well post some reviews poolboy when you get it please.
post #30 of 32
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Will do!
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